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Fortifications???

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brunsonthomas
Moderator
10 February, 2017, 8:14 PM UTC
Do not forget you must feed these armies. So upgrade your Farms and Barns, your food bonus in the Dragon Stone and the Obelisk of Power. 
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Snowgoon
10 February, 2017, 9:08 PM UTC

Ryu said:


A 100x100 castle has 84 walls, 4 gates and 12 turrets


That is:

84x walls (400) = 33600

4x gate (960) = 3840

12x turret (640) = 7680

Without money most will not see the day of complete level 5 walls, so if you want to complete the circle, maybe start with something not as expensive. Lots of level 1 walls with the best turrets and gates

88 walls, not 84 .... there are 22 walls on each side


Buying low level walls is a scam


It is often cheaper to destroy our existing walls and buy new, than to upgrade our existing walls
so we have wasted many sapphires buying low level fortification units
I have always hated the way that plarium refuse to offer discounts on wall upgrades.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Ryu
10 February, 2017, 10:09 PM UTC
100x100 is 25 tiles per side, plus four corners. 12 turrets and 4 gates are 20 "walls". You can achieve 88 walls by placing the gates on the corners. Not willing to go to that length, but yeah, possible. 
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BiohazarD
Moderator
11 February, 2017, 6:43 AM UTC
Snowgoon said:

Ryu said:


A 100x100 castle has 84 walls, 4 gates and 12 turrets


That is:

84x walls (400) = 33600

4x gate (960) = 3840

12x turret (640) = 7680

Without money most will not see the day of complete level 5 walls, so if you want to complete the circle, maybe start with something not as expensive. Lots of level 1 walls with the best turrets and gates

88 walls, not 84 .... there are 22 walls on each side


Buying low level walls is a scam


It is often cheaper to destroy our existing walls and buy new, than to upgrade our existing walls
so we have wasted many sapphires buying low level fortification units
I have always hated the way that plarium refuse to offer discounts on wall upgrades.

You're better off just buying a few level 5 segments when you get a discount and can afford them, instead of buying level 1s then having to upgrade them at full price. 
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Snowgoon
11 February, 2017, 9:59 PM UTC

Ryu said:


100x100 is 25 tiles per side, plus four corners. 12 turrets and 4 gates are 20 "walls". You can achieve 88 walls by placing the gates on the corners. Not willing to go to that length, but yeah, possible. 

There is a bead missing from your abacus, corner towers only require one square, all other walls and towers use 4 squares each, and a gate uses 8 squares - so 22 walls on each side


Biohazard said:

You're better off just buying a few level 5 segments when you get a discount and can afford them, instead of buying level 1s then having to upgrade them at full price.

Precisely my point

It takes so long to get level 5 fortification scrolls that many players have wasted sapphires building lower level walls, and then discover that they all need to be destroyed, because plarium have ensured that upgrading them is uneconomical

As usual, it would only take a bit of forethought by plarium devs to avoid this situation.

Add Fortification Upgrades to the discounts in wheel of fortune and special offers. and more players would be prepared to spend sapphires on walls, gates and towers, safe in the knowledge that they will not need to be demolished later

If all players are refusing to build walls until they can get level 5 walls at a good discount, then plarium are losing sapphire sales
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Ryu
12 February, 2017, 1:55 PM UTC
Sorry, used fancy math instead of abacus. Missed info: The gap around your build area has to be walled, too. So yeah, 22 walls per side.
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Oracle
13 February, 2017, 10:45 AM UTC

The price is the same to upgrade from level 1 to 5. it cost the same as to just buy a level five. 


Unless if you manage to get a discount and buy 3 walls per 3 months. 
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Stewart_KT1
13 February, 2017, 10:55 AM UTC
I get the offer of walls discount every 3 days, Walls then improvements, then castle skin. Then the cycle starts again so it would pay me to get the walls> If only i didnt have a set of lvl5 walls more than 2 years ago.
Noodle maker extreme
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Snowgoon
13 February, 2017, 10:58 AM UTC

Stewart_KT1 said:


I get the offer of walls discount every 3 days, Walls then improvements, then castle skin. Then the cycle starts again so it would pay me to get the walls> If only i didnt have a set of lvl5 walls more than 2 years ago.

Seriously??

You still get offered wall discounts even tho you finished them?


How typical that the Wheel of Misfortune only gives discounts to those players who cannot use them.

.... and this is after plarium claim to have fixed the bugs?

PATHETIC

http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/-news-and-announcements/31609_update-news--33

Obviously, nothing was fixed - all I ever see is useless discounts for relocation spells etc

http://prntscr.com/e84ewc


Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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BiohazarD
Moderator
13 February, 2017, 5:14 PM UTC

Stewart_KT1 said:


I get the offer of walls discount every 3 days, Walls then improvements, then castle skin. Then the cycle starts again so it would pay me to get the walls> If only i didnt have a set of lvl5 walls more than 2 years ago.

I believe the system is supposed to remove wall discounts once you have them all finished.  Maybe you've got a level 4 segment somewhere that didn't get upgraded or something.  You should submit a screenshot to support and have them look into it. 

https://support.plarium.com/enstormfall/Tickets/Submit/Category/48
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DraK
14 February, 2017, 11:07 AM UTC
Drogar61 said:

Ichezis said:


1556204 said:

I don't understand how people surround their entire castles with walls and towers. They cost too many sapphires! 


How do they do it?

Greetings again lord 1556204!

You don't necessarily have to purchase Sapphires with real money.
There's many ways to obtain Sapphires freely actually, the only cost would be time.

Let me complie a list for you:

  • Participate in Tournaments
    (Requirement: Lvl 15+);
  • Try to invest Sapphires in Prize Draws
    (Warning: Think this out thoroughly! You wouldn't want to lose many sapphires for nothing.);
  • Claim rewards from the Feast of Valor;
  • Conquer & hold Sapphire hamlets;
  • Finish certain quests. (I believe they only exist in the tutorial though)
  • And probably more!

To speed up the process, however, you can purchase Sapphires. But it's not a must. 

Hope I helped!

There are many ways is truth, but to obtain any useful amount of sapps you will need huge amount of real money. Time has nothing with that except if you are ready to spend next 100 years collecting sapps from tournaments.

Most of these (global) responses are true but they not really provide any useful scenario.

Simple, fog creation.

You would want to get in some highly active league for max yield of tournament rewards. And arm up with patience, a lot of it. 
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Oracle
14 February, 2017, 12:43 PM UTC
Stewart_KT1 said:

I get the offer of walls discount every 3 days, Walls then improvements, then castle skin. Then the cycle starts again so it would pay me to get the walls> If only i didnt have a set of lvl5 walls more than 2 years ago.
You are VIP, I have a F who recieves 80% on fire balls discount. I haven't verufied yet, But I know you can recieve up to 80% on units discount. especially  
Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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djmoody
16 February, 2017, 11:31 AM UTC

1556204 said:


I don't want to spend money on this game.

Then you are utterly in the wrong game lol.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Gadheras
16 February, 2017, 12:19 PM UTC

djmoody said:


1556204 said:


I don't want to spend money on this game.

Then you are utterly in the wrong game lol.

An Admin will soon come along and tell him he doesn't need to with smart playing, tactics and strategy he can win sapphires in tournament....



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Drogar61
16 February, 2017, 9:40 PM UTC

Gadheras said:


djmoody said:


1556204 said:


I don't want to spend money on this game.

Then you are utterly in the wrong game lol.

An Admin will soon come along and tell him he doesn't need to with smart playing, tactics and strategy he can win sapphires in tournament....

You're negative. First 100 years (without real money) will be hard, but after that all will be good. You have to understand that this is hardcore strategy war game. Use first 100 years to learn. Use patient and smart tactics.

(See my friend, I'm not admin, but I learned what is the point of this game). 
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