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What happen in this game?

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anyone
30 January, 2017, 2:58 PM UTC

For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.

For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4

So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???

Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....


Best regards,


Say
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Gadheras
30 January, 2017, 3:05 PM UTC
anyone said:

For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.

For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4

So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???

Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....


Best regards,


offerd is based on spending pattern. Stop spend and get good offers. Just have to wait it out.
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anyone
30 January, 2017, 3:09 PM UTC

No... it not true. I ask a lot player at high level it also the same.

It just base on your level . 

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Drogar61
30 January, 2017, 3:12 PM UTC
anyone said:

No... it not true. I ask a lot player at high level it also the same.

It just base on your level . 

Then they don't know truth. Gadheras told you truth. Try and you will see, alone.
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Gadheras
30 January, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC

anyone said:


No... it not true. I ask a lot player at high level it also the same.

It just base on your level . 


level 80 something, and I recieved 80% offers. Then again I spend maybe something every 2-3 months...



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RandomDrop
30 January, 2017, 3:47 PM UTC

Its discrimination, legal but unethical.


It is Plariums risk however, they run the risk of offending customers and discouraging them from making a purchase. That's certainly the case with me.

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anyone
30 January, 2017, 3:54 PM UTC

Thanks.

But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and more
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Gadheras
30 January, 2017, 4:19 PM UTC
anyone said:

Thanks.

But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and more
Yes, that is how customer loyality should been rewarded, but Plarium here to milk you, not to reward you as a repeat customer. Look at it as drugs, they give the offers to get you hooked.
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djmoody
30 January, 2017, 4:21 PM UTC

anyone said:


Thanks.

But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and more

How would that maximise Plarium revenue?

If you are regularly spending, why would they need to discount more to you. You are clearly happy sending at the level you are. They get nothing extra by discounting to you, they just lose revenue.

BUT if you aren't spending then the offers get better and better trying to find the sweet spot at which you start spending again.

And yes it is utter cynical.

Yes it's completely unfair as different people are paying different amount for exactly the same stuff.

Not the only developer to do this.... because quite simply this industry is sick and morally bankrupt.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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BiohazarD
Moderator
30 January, 2017, 4:47 PM UTC
djmoody said:

anyone said:


Thanks.

But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and more

How would that maximise Plarium revenue?

If you are regularly spending, why would they need to discount more to you. You are clearly happy sending at the level you are. They get nothing extra by discounting to you, they just lose revenue.

BUT if you aren't spending then the offers get better and better trying to find the sweet spot at which you start spending again.

And yes it is utter cynical.

Yes it's completely unfair as different people are paying different amount for exactly the same stuff.

Not the only developer to do this.... because quite simply this industry is sick and morally bankrupt.

Of course if they did offer better discounts to players who spend more it would just give an even bigger advantage to mega coiners.  You spend 50 bucks on the game, so you get 60% discounts.  Somebody else spends $100 on the game, so they get 80% discounts.  That means for twice the money they got 4x as much stuff as you.  What if I spend $10,000 on the game?  How big of a discount should I get?  90%? 95%?  Imagine how big of an army somebody could get spending $10,000 on sapphires at a 95% discount...  
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Warrior
30 January, 2017, 5:12 PM UTC

Yup the discount that you get is dependent on the amount you spend on the game. The less you spend the better discount you get but if you also notice that the number of times you can avail the discount is lower as the percentage discount is higher. 

Also if you spend a lot on the game and suddenly stop spending you will get the higher packages will be provided to you on better discounts like 60%-80%. I have seen this with a lot of players who used to spend a lot and have slowed down the spending lately.


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Alina Bright
Community Manager
31 January, 2017, 11:29 AM UTC

Lords and Ladies, you know that we have regular Bank Offers and Special Offers with bonuses.

Special Offers appear according to a set algorithm which is constantly evolving. Several departments work on the development of that algorithm and they rely on analytics data, marketing research and other information they receive through their research channels.

You can receive a cheap or an expensive Special Offer, and it is chosen by that algorithm. If you don’t like your current Offers or find them  expensive, you can wait for better ones, and they will appear sooner or later.

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Oracle
31 January, 2017, 1:49 PM UTC

Offer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers


the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.

The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern. 

When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.

You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.


but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.

I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always. 

if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on 

=Location,

=Level

=race

=sex

Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect

Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Gadheras
31 January, 2017, 1:57 PM UTC
Oracle said:

Offer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers


the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.

The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern. 

When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.

You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.


but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.

I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always. 

if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on 

=Location,

=Level

=race

=sex

Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect

Well, if that is an actual fact. Then we should stop spend a  dime period unti everyone get equal offers.l 
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Oracle
31 January, 2017, 2:26 PM UTC
It is a fact, i have compared these, and I find it so. You might be suprised if I tell you these but 99% of all VIP are from Australia
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Warrior
31 January, 2017, 7:41 PM UTC

Lol i should get some pretty great offers and i am in India. But all i get is 50% discount which is not as good as compared to my friend who is in US with 70% discount. the only difference i have seen is that i have spent more than him in the last 2 month.


Also my friend in Africa and another in Europe has spent a lot more than me in the last 2 months and he gets worse offer than me.


So i think pattern is still not based on the location but only on the spending habits.
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BiohazarD
Moderator
31 January, 2017, 8:06 PM UTC

Gadheras said:


Oracle said:


Offer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers


the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.

The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern. 

When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.

You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.


but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.

I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always. 

if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on 

=Location,

=Level

=race

=sex

Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect

Well, if that is an actual fact. Then we should stop spend a  dime period unti everyone get equal offers.l 

It's not.  I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small. 

The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account. 
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Ryu
31 January, 2017, 8:18 PM UTC

Gadheras said:


anyone said:


For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.

For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4

So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???

Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....


Best regards,


offerd is based on spending pattern. Stop spend and get good offers. Just have to wait it out.

This. Listen to him if you want better offers. Try how regular spending changes the quality of your offers for the worse if you want an experiment. Be strongly biased on what you value in a pack compared to what they calculate their bonus percentage of.


Want an expertise from an MBA on this? Be plarium, offer me loads of money, make even more by giving me. As funny as it sounds, they are not making the most of it, their observation being based on some very unusual happenings. Micro transaction misunderstood, big time.
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Oracle
1 February, 2017, 8:24 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:



It's not.  I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small. 

The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account. 

We have VPNs nowadays, you can try the same experiment and you will come to the same conclusion. My sample size was not small, It was in the upwards of 3 people per country. 

Facts, Indians receive better offers, Facts, Africans receive worst offers. In fact I don't remember the rime I bought in these game using my country VPN. I always switch to a Eastern Europe VPN just before they add special offers. 

As with VIP, 99% of all VIP I know  are from Australia 

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Alina Bright
Community Manager
1 February, 2017, 10:53 AM UTC

Oracle said:


Offer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers


the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.

The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern. 

When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.

You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.


but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.

I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always. 

if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on 

=Location,

=Level

=race

=sex

Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect

Lord Oracle, I don't know where you got these criteria either, but this is a false information.


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