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bug - glitch - or an exploit - you tell me

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moonstone2548
21 January, 2017, 7:38 AM UTC

i'm not sure if this is a bug, a glitch or just an 'accepted tactic'


leagues A and B are at war (its been going on for a few days)


A spies B - then A reinforces B and recalls after they land


A then tries to siege B - B defends and kills everything (in this case 100 nomads) with zero losses - but on reading report B gets no PVP, experience or defence points at all - so in my estimation no points towards the 'war' 


am interested in any replies


ty



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Warrior
22 January, 2017, 10:34 AM UTC

if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero.. but if there is a screenshot i can help analyse what exactly happened or maybe let me try and from the scenario it is possible that the troops that were killed int he battle belonged to the attacker and hence B did not get any points even though all troops were killed.


You could also PM me since there could be an issue with putting the report here.
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moonstone2548
22 January, 2017, 12:16 PM UTC

give me a few minutes and i'll sort a couple of screenshots


bear with me


thx


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moonstone2548
22 January, 2017, 12:26 PM UTC

http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



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BiohazarD
Moderator
22 January, 2017, 7:54 PM UTC

moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 
Any opinions expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily represent the opinions of or constitute official statements by Plarium.
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moonstone2548
23 January, 2017, 12:17 AM UTC

well, that is very enlightening


thanks for the reply as it explains a lot


was definitely not the response i was expecting to be honest


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wesleypringle1
25 January, 2017, 3:06 PM UTC

BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


The Keep
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Warrior
25 January, 2017, 4:31 PM UTC
wesleypringle1 said:

BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


If fireball defended it would be the answer but i think Bio is talking about defending here and not attacking. If you attack you will get PvP for sure if you kill enough.
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Hooverssmallengines
30 January, 2017, 5:11 PM UTC

Warrior said:


wesleypringle1 said:


BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


If fireball defended it would be the answer but i think Bio is talking about defending here and not attacking. If you attack you will get PvP for sure if you kill enough.

And if you send a fireBall at a castle that is not being Defended at all you will get nothing as far as EXP or PVP all you get is a thank you From Plarium for throwing your Money at them LOL

please click like if you agree :)
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Warrior
31 January, 2017, 7:13 PM UTC
Hooverssmallengines said:

Warrior said:


wesleypringle1 said:


BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


If fireball defended it would be the answer but i think Bio is talking about defending here and not attacking. If you attack you will get PvP for sure if you kill enough.

And if you send a fireBall at a castle that is not being Defended at all you will get nothing as far as EXP or PVP all you get is a thank you From Plarium for throwing your Money at them LOL

please click like if you agree :)
Yup and you missed the part "if you kill enough".. As far as i understand PvP means it is part of battle so if you dont kill stuff then it is not PvP :D
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toggit
31 January, 2017, 7:29 PM UTC

Warrior said:


If fireball defended it would be the answer but i think Bio is talking about defending here and not attacking. If you attack you will get PvP for sure if you kill enough.

Attacking is the best way to lose a challenge or war.

Defenders usually win because of the way Power Points are awarded

Killing a griffin only gives your league 15 points, but losing a dragon will give 42 points to your enemies

These points are not shown in battle reports

but you might see them here (or in same legue quest)    http://prntscr.com/e2tiog

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BiohazarD
Moderator
31 January, 2017, 8:14 PM UTC

wesleypringle1 said:


BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


Well you're buying virtual goods, so how much you consider that to be worth is up to you.  Is a fireball worth more or less than a dragon to you?

Of course if you wait to buy fireballs when you have a discount you can get significantly more for your money, and some of the packages also give free fireballs. 
Any opinions expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily represent the opinions of or constitute official statements by Plarium.
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BiohazarD
Moderator
31 January, 2017, 8:16 PM UTC

Hooverssmallengines said:


Warrior said:


wesleypringle1 said:


BiohazarD said:


moonstone2548 said:



http://prntscr.com/dyt8c1



http://prntscr.com/dyt8m8



http://prntscr.com/dyt9tx




the first is the timeline between the reinforcements and the siege


2nd n 3rd are of the seige - 2nd shows the very top of the report where points should be shown


3rd just shows the gap where nomads 'should' have been if they were in still there



thnks for your time


moon



no drama with not putting it in here - been in plariumland for 2 years and still learning stuff - i call it 'evony on steroids' lol


quote here 'if the losses are zero the PvP, experience or defense points will be zero' - surely that is wrong - defender successfully repels a siege with no losses and they get no pvp xp or def pts????????????


so i have to suicide ? amount of troops to actually get pvp pts????


looking forward to this one



In battles, the defender does not get any points if the attacker loses everything and the defender loses nothing.  Since he attacked you with defense units they had very low offense power and didn't kill anything, so you got no points.  This is a game feature deliberately built in by Plarium, and not a glitch. 

If you want points just go fireball him back, that's the easiest way to win challenges/wars. 

Too Funny The answer seems to Be spend Money and use fireballs L M A O Not surprised He didn't bother to mention that you will most likely not get much for your dollar


If fireball defended it would be the answer but i think Bio is talking about defending here and not attacking. If you attack you will get PvP for sure if you kill enough.

And if you send a fireBall at a castle that is not being Defended at all you will get nothing as far as EXP or PVP all you get is a thank you From Plarium for throwing your Money at them LOL

please click like if you agree :)

Well yeah, if you sent a raid at an empty castle you wouldn't get any points for that either.  So you have to send a few recons or a small test attack at the castle first to make sure that it's defended. 

And way to fish for likes, that's kind of sad...
Any opinions expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily represent the opinions of or constitute official statements by Plarium.
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djmoody
1 February, 2017, 4:21 PM UTC

moonstone2548 said:


i'm not sure if this is a bug, a glitch or just an 'accepted tactic'


leagues A and B are at war (its been going on for a few days)


A spies B - then A reinforces B and recalls after they land


A then tries to siege B - B defends and kills everything (in this case 100 nomads) with zero losses - but on reading report B gets no PVP, experience or defence points at all - so in my estimation no points towards the 'war' 


am interested in any replies


ty



Why did you make the post so convoluted? I had to re-read it to work out what your question was.

You could have simply written "in a heavily one-sided attack the defenders got no points - why?". A&B are at war.... A spies B.... A reinfoces B, then recalls..... this was all utterly irrelevant.

The answer to your question is that overwhelmingly one-sided fights gain no PvP.

There is a sliding scale to PvP and torni points. Best results from equally matched fights. As the fights become more one sides the points are toned down. At some point the points disappear altogether. Many ppl will have seen this on small attacks on their well defended beacons. Yields no points.

It's not true that no losses = no points. The points just tend to zero the more and more overwhelming the fight. The point they reach zero is not at zero loss though.

You will have ask Plarium but I am sure it's there to stop people from abusing alts for easy points, taking no losses.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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