Emperors again?

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Falcon
9 January, 2017, 1:44 PM UTC
djmoody said:

I just started Grepolis.

I like their approach to money - it's the one I would implement if I was developing a game.

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There is also considerably more complexity to the game which allows for a lot more strategy - again, pushes the game balance back towards the good not the coiners.


Thank you for posting this feedback here, I am going to check it out as I was on the lookout for a better, more balanced game.
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FRENZIE
11 January, 2017, 10:17 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Well is it Emps fault that Plarium created an utterly unbalanced game where the end game could simply be bought. Infinite troops purchaseable immediately. No gameplay / game progress is required, simply cash. Utterly ridiculous and game destroying.

A league went and made itself relevant by spending stupid amounts of money. If it wasn't Emps though it would have been someone else.

As it resulted in Emps having no beacons and Unforgivens being destroyed you would have to wonder whether it was money well spent. The only outcome of all that spending to grief Destiny into 2 beacons (because the only sensible way to counter the threat of the 1.5bn coined hammer was/is to stick all your defence in just a couple of massively stacked beacons).

If I had spent a 5 figure, if not 6 figure amount of money on the game I would have wanted a much better return than that, being an annoyance to someone else's game.

One upside, Emps have been the catalyst for the server shutting down even quicker than Plarium were tipping it in the dumpster 

Utimately Plarium killed their own game with their greed. 

It's not like we didn't point out this was going to happen when they started the string of Pay to Win updates about 2 years ago. Was just waiting for the idiots with more money than sense to arrive.



Found the best song to suit DJ Moody lolz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCY9c0OOWvA

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tanuzzo346
11 January, 2017, 2:49 PM UTC
Emperors = player plarium is obvius 
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djmoody
12 January, 2017, 3:03 AM UTC
tanuzzo346 said:

Emperors = player plarium is obvius 
Idk. I have spoken to plenty of the game's uber coiners on TS and they were all real. Some people are just happy or rich enough to drop stupid money into a game. I can't see it as anything other than some kind of mental disorder. But then I have put more money into this game that it's worth (about $5) so I'm just as bad I guess, others just do it to factor 1000.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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RandomDrop
12 January, 2017, 8:31 AM UTC

Ive been playing less than a few months but from everything I have read and seen if they are not hacking or plarium/kabam staff then the more power to them. Its just to bad that it cost so much to play like that or you would see alot more of it. .

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trevor
12 January, 2017, 8:43 AM UTC

i think after yesterdays advent  this will see a few leagues give up in the game 

ive never seen so many beacons change hands  so fast ????

it was the big leagues again  hitting little ones 

 ,but i did see a few smaller leagues link  up and hit the bigger ones 

i just feel this game is now dieing fast ????


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Jezebel
12 January, 2017, 3:12 PM UTC
trevor said:

i think after yesterdays advent  this will see a few leagues give up in the game 

ive never seen so many beacons change hands  so fast ????

it was the big leagues again  hitting little ones 

 ,but i did see a few smaller leagues link  up and hit the bigger ones 

i just feel this game is now dieing fast ????


really? so you consider Legion Latina, Fellowship and Anarchy small leagues?  I think if you read the Balurs Shield thread you will see what is going to happen .....
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Ryu
12 January, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC
A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?
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Jezebel
12 January, 2017, 3:46 PM UTC
Ryu said:

A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?
I would say players who dedicated 2yrs + are going to enjoy the game in a big way before they leave 
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test
12 January, 2017, 3:49 PM UTC

Jezebel said:


trevor said:


i think after yesterdays advent  this will see a few leagues give up in the game 

ive never seen so many beacons change hands  so fast ????

it was the big leagues again  hitting little ones 


Generally, when the little leagues hit the big ones, you don't see red on the map, just the screenshot of all of their offense dying, lol.

Take note that Destiny attacked 2 leagues that were higher rank than us, including the league that was ranked #1.  And the best part is, it's a war game, no need for a reason, even though there was one.


 ,but i did see a few smaller leagues link  up and hit the bigger ones 

i just feel this game is now dieing fast ????


really? so you consider Legion Latina, Fellowship and Anarchy small leagues?  I think if you read the Balurs Shield thread you will see what is going to happen .....

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Stormfall
12 January, 2017, 4:05 PM UTC

Ryu said:


A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?

Term griefing comes to mind.

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BiohazarD
Moderator
12 January, 2017, 8:41 PM UTC
Stormfall said:

Ryu said:


A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?

Term griefing comes to mind.

This is a war game.  They're warring.  Of course there will be a flood of tears from the leagues one the receiving end, but that's just how war games work. 
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Ryu
12 January, 2017, 11:05 PM UTC

 Again: That is all? No news? Perfectly aware, no trouble, game might even be better for it afterwards. Have fun.


(Re: Game dying fast, do not think so.)

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djmoody
13 January, 2017, 3:17 PM UTC

Stormfall said:


Ryu said:


A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?

Term griefing comes to mind.

Personally I am trying to make some fun content cause the game is super boring.

And the only people that are intentionally to be 'griefed' are Plarium. Partly a protest, partly to point out how stupid some of the mechanics and events are. They made these stupid systems we are just using them.

People are more than welcome to join the protest by dropping their own beacons. Doesn't have to be a forced thing. Join Balur's shield today :)

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Ryu
13 January, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

djmoody said:


Stormfall said:


Ryu said:


A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?

Term griefing comes to mind.

Personally I am trying to make some fun content cause the game is super boring.

And the only people that are intentionally to be 'griefed' are Plarium. Partly a protest, partly to point out how stupid some of the mechanics and events are. They made these stupid systems we are just using them.

People are more than welcome to join the protest by dropping their own beacons. Doesn't have to be a forced thing. Join Balur's shield today :)

DJ, we are not in the safe-spaces SJW generation, if that wording managed to get you griefed I am quite willing to apologize. Will be interesting to see how far you get with your plan.
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Jezebel
14 January, 2017, 5:30 PM UTC

Ryu said:


 Again: That is all? No news? Perfectly aware, no trouble, game might even be better for it afterwards. Have fun.


(Re: Game dying fast, do not think so.)

Maybe check with some players who play Total Domination where the same game format has been implemented prior to Stormfall


I understand that game is pretty much dead
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Trentos
16 January, 2017, 4:09 AM UTC

So much whining over a wargame. The map is always changing, and if you hold beacons, they will eventually get hit.

And I think the OP already has his answer. 

Mascalzone

I asked few weeks ago to Frenzie the reason for this tactic

His answer: "Ask Destiny".

But the most important thing is that I cant stand in a league that is part of a coalition that is not responding and does not defend the general interests but their own

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Oracle
16 January, 2017, 9:57 AM UTC

Ryu said:

A group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge are going to clear beacon game for all the leagues? That it?

No a whole map, the whole of Darkshine is going to let a group of mega-coiners and hoarders of secret exploit knowledge ruin their game. I find that ecxclusive. 


FRENZIE said

Found the best song to suit DJ Moody lolz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCY9c0OOWvA

I advice not to listen to those hunger inducing, encelopathy infective songs. one tend to be very active and unable to control his motion when listening to such. head jerking is one of the symptoms

These I find to to match all these Dj Moody bular nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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BiohazarD
Moderator
17 January, 2017, 4:09 PM UTC
oracle said:

These I find to to match all these Dj Moody bular nonsense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

What the heck did I just watch?
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ThatGuy
19 January, 2017, 4:16 PM UTC

djmoody said:


I just started Grepolis.

I like their approach to money - it's the one I would implement if I was developing a game.

There are a couple of items that are hygiene factors to the game. If you buy them your game will be a lot less grindy. You can be just as effective without buying the items but you probably want to spend the money so your game is a lot less clicks.

Those items are priced at what amounts to a reasonable subscription price (approx £5 a month).

It's still possible to buy an advantage by speed boosting your city building completion but that is extremely expensive. There is NO simply buying end game via instant purchase of infinite troops, like this horrible game.

What you get is A LOT of people paying A SMALL AMOUNT to play the game (ultimately A LOT of revenue)

There is still the opportunity for the walking brain dead to pump thousands in the game, so they can still clean up from the uber spenders. But the uber spender won't become an instant hero, if they are bad at the game they will still fail.

There is also considerably more complexity to the game which allows for a lot more strategy - again, pushes the game balance back towards the good not the coiners.


I hope it stays fairly balanced.  I've played too many pay optional games that start good like that then devolve into unbalanced cash grab messes.  Sometimes I think they do it on purpose; the balanced start gets you invested in the game, then they start adding more and more to spend on in hopes players will shell out more and more to stay competitive.  The scary thing is it works.  I never realized so many people had thousands of dollars to throw into pay to win games every week. 

Maybe I'll just stick to the PS4.  I'd miss the social aspect, but at least I don't have to watch games I used to love turn to unbalanced messes and die.  Its a bad feeling when something you used to enjoy turns into a chore that you do more out of obligation than because you derive enjoyment from it.

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