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Wrong number os units destroyed in the quest

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tatiana
26 December, 2016, 4:24 PM UTC


As you can See the quest asked for 250 Units to be killed, the RAID shows 325 units killed, but even so, it only applied 110 units killed


how's that possible


Tatiana

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Warrior
26 December, 2016, 4:40 PM UTC

tatiana said:



As you can See the quest asked for 250 Units to be killed, the RAID shows 325 units killed, but even so, it only applied 110 units killed


how's that possible


Tatiana

Hi Tatiana, The points are based not on the count of each units killed but on the power number of each unit. So since an archer is worth 20 power units (approx)  you would get only .5 (approx) point since 1 point is equivalent to 40 power points.


Also since the defense points comes into picture when defending, the defense points of the offense units will be used to calculate the power points.
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
26 December, 2016, 5:58 PM UTC

Lady Tatiana

As Lord Warrior said, the power points you are asked to get are not based on the number of troops you killed. are base of its power point of every troops.

this number is based on default stat of every troop divided by 40.

here is a list of how many power points are u going to take from each troop:

Pike = 40 Offense / 40 = 1

Archer = 19 Defense / 40 = 0.475

Dwarf = 22 Defense / 40 = 0.55

Paladin = 60 Offense / 40 = 1.5

Arbalester = 30 Defense / 40 = 0.75

Bear rider = 30 Defense / 40 = 0.75

Warden = 60 Defense / 40 = 1.5

Ballista = 60 Defense / 40 = 1.5

Pathfinder = 75 Offense / 40 = 1.875

Huntress = 30 Defense / 40 = 0.75

Nomad = 150 Defense / 40 = 3.75

Knight = 240 Offense / 40 = 6

Barb = 150 Defense / 40 = 3.75

Great lord = 360 Offense / 40 = 9

Reaver = 360 Offense / 40 = 9

Golem = 400 Defense / 40 = 10

Warlock = 720 Offense / 40 = 18

Demon = 415 Defense / 40 = 10.375

Necro = 900 Offense / 40 = 22.5

Griffin = 587.5 Defense / 40 = 14.675

Wyvern = 1440 Offense / 40 = 36

Dragon = 1680 Offense / 40 = 42

Chimera = 900 Offense / 40 = 22.5

hope this can help u

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jumy
27 December, 2016, 7:52 AM UTC

fast fast only pikeman 185 Power points and he take total 110, why? total is around 290 Power points....


count defensive stats?

Pikeman 12+5+5+5/4=6,75/40=0,16875 absurd


so with BIG bonus +400% (dragon) you lose many and take smoke
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
27 December, 2016, 8:36 AM UTC

jumy said:


fast fast only pikeman 185 Power points and he take total 110, why? total is around 290 Power points....


count defensive stats?

Pikeman 12+5+5+5/4=6,75/40=0,16875 absurd


so with BIG bonus +400% (dragon) you lose many and take smoke

nope, only the the default stat

1 pike 40 ofense --> 40/40 =1 power point

regards

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jumy
27 December, 2016, 8:53 AM UTC

Juglar del Viento said:


jumy said:


fast fast only pikeman 185 Power points and he take total 110, why? total is around 290 Power points....


count defensive stats?

Pikeman 12+5+5+5/4=6,75/40=0,16875 absurd


so with BIG bonus +400% (dragon) you lose many and take smoke

nope, only the the default stat

1 pike 40 ofense --> 40/40 =1 power point

regards

eh now make 2 calc and you see that tatiana report value around 290 Power points or something is different



getting close ?

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BiohazarD
Moderator
27 December, 2016, 10:21 AM UTC
The point values of units are based off both their resource values and their offense/defense values.  So 1 million offense in pikes is worth less points than 1 million offense in dragons, because the dragons have a higher resource cost per offense value. 
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jumy
27 December, 2016, 10:36 AM UTC

so all lies for Power points now?

1M off base stat

25k pikeman=25k power points

595,2380952 dragon=25k power points


explain please this Power points

3 Mod 3 different version

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
27 December, 2016, 12:36 PM UTC

well im a bit confuse

my quest ask for 500 power points and i get it killing 50 demons or 50 gollem

let me check the numbers to be sure

Regards
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Warrior
27 December, 2016, 1:10 PM UTC
jumy said:

Juglar del Viento said:


jumy said:


fast fast only pikeman 185 Power points and he take total 110, why? total is around 290 Power points....


count defensive stats?

Pikeman 12+5+5+5/4=6,75/40=0,16875 absurd


so with BIG bonus +400% (dragon) you lose many and take smoke

nope, only the the default stat

1 pike 40 ofense --> 40/40 =1 power point

regards

eh now make 2 calc and you see that tatiana report value around 290 Power points or something is different



getting close ?

Great work on the excel. Exactly what i meant but we need to consider it is always nearly the value since the decimal points are not stated (40 is not exactly 40). I hope you got what i meant here. So you calculated it exactly as i did and we both got the same number.
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Alina Bright
Community Manager
27 December, 2016, 1:28 PM UTC

It this Quest the number means not Units, but Power Points.



Power Points is a special parameter of each Unit's strength. When it comes to the battle, the amount of Power Points for each killed Unit depends on its position. For example, if Dragon was killed while defending the Castle you get less Power Points than if Dragon attacked the Castle. This happens because Dragon is offensive Units and he's aimed to attack. When Dragon's defending the Castle in the Battle, only its defensive characteristics count. Since these characteristics are lower, you get less Power Points.

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jumy
27 December, 2016, 1:33 PM UTC

It seems like that 


exact number can not be known?

ty again


meantime have answered the TATIANA question 


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Alina Bright
Community Manager
28 December, 2016, 3:55 PM UTC
jumy said:

It seems like that 


exact number can not be known?

ty again


meantime have answered the TATIANA question 


All numbers should be discovered through the experience
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Snowgoon
28 December, 2016, 4:09 PM UTC

You can easily test Power Point values during Build units League Quests - Always divide base value by 40


Every unit has base value for attack and defense, so 110 PP is correct


Killing offense left out in castle always gives very low pp, xp and pvp,



Using base values is a huge flaw in the game - Players are only rewarded for the level one values of units killed
Killing a level one griffin gives the same points as level 32, which is absurd and encourages bullying

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jumy
28 December, 2016, 4:45 PM UTC

Snowgoon said:


You can easily test Power Point values during Build units League Quests - Always divide base value by 40


Every unit has base value for attack and defense, so 110 PP is correct


Killing offense left out in castle always gives very low pp, xp and pvp,



Using base values is a huge flaw in the game - Players are only rewarded for the level one values of units killed
Killing a level one griffin gives the same points as level 32, which is absurd and encourages bullying

are not so precise, there are rounding that i can not dream and 110 is only near, def stat for off troops?


BiohazarD said:

The point values of units are based off both their resource values and their offense/defense values. So 1 million offense in pikes is worth less points than 1 million offense in dragons, because the dragons have a higher resource cost per offense value.

you should say the right value?

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
28 December, 2016, 5:37 PM UTC

i think if you attack and kill offense units you have to choose deff stats of this off units killed

try to calculate how much are those off units taking their defense values and dividing by 40

Regards

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tatiana
30 December, 2016, 2:16 PM UTC

Hello



Probably all of you are right about the power points calculation, however, you must understand that the QUEST ask to kill 250 UNITS not to get 250 Powerpoints


Then solve the text, in order to not to get confused.


because once again happened the same,



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Snowgoon
30 December, 2016, 2:27 PM UTC

tatiana said:


Probably all of you are right about the power points calculation, however, you must understand that the QUEST ask to kill 250 UNITS not to get 250 Powerpoints

No titiana, you are mistaken

The quest is to Destroy enemy Units worth 500 Power Points (or 250 power points)

I would advise you to ignore this quest - the rewards do not compensate for your losses
All quests are optional



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Warrior
30 December, 2016, 3:24 PM UTC
Snowgoon said:

tatiana said:


Probably all of you are right about the power points calculation, however, you must understand that the QUEST ask to kill 250 UNITS not to get 250 Powerpoints

No titiana, you are mistaken

The quest is to Destroy enemy Units worth 500 Power Points (or 250 power points)

I would advise you to ignore this quest - the rewards do not compensate for your losses
All quests are optional



unless there is a 2.2x PvP Global Quest going on and you have a Wrath of Weor (Also known as FB or Fireball) and a stacked target that your league is hitting.
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jumy
30 December, 2016, 7:36 PM UTC


if they happen as well as pvp you have add prizes 

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