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Significant More Proof BG's are Broken

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djmoody
21 December, 2016, 4:02 PM UTC

Have been provided couple of weeks more info on the BG log you guys are well aware of now.

Complete BG Log


Plarium absolutely need to explain how this log is possible when "BG's are working as expected". If there is no attempt from Plarium to address the facts provided this time then we have no choice but to conclude it's a purposeful fraud.

I for one will be taking this and the gambling issue to the wider world, gaming press, mums net, my MP, regulatory agencies. Anyone that I can think of to apply pressure to a company that seemingly operates without any morals or any care for people who entrust their hobby time (and in some case significant sums of money) to them. 

This is simply Plarium's last chance to "do the right thing" before a whole can of whoop ass is opened up on them.

Review the log. Explain how it's possible or finally come to your senses and accept there has been a BG issue. Ignoring it or fobbing it off I can tell you it not an option you want to explore.

PS I am more than willing to invest my personal time to solve this issue. If Plarium devs want to voice comms me to go through this I will happily invest the time with them. This is not an attempt to simply criticise it's an open invitation to find solutions.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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djmoody
21 December, 2016, 4:03 PM UTC

Log Summary:

- The log is an entire history of this players BG's (all the way from lvl 19)

- It shows the player is current 200m resources down

- This is more than twice the average banking value of his HIGHEST BG

- If there was no problem, at this level of bank he SHOULD BE GETTING FULL PAYOUT EVERY BG HE TRIES

- The bank has been this way for OVER A MONTH (more than 100 BGs)

- The loss effectively occured IN ONE DAY (BG's 529 to 542)

- Can tell game doen't register his bank as he gets NO SERIOUS PAYOUT WHEN CLEARING TOP LEVEL BGs


Questions for Plarium to address:

- How is it possible for a player to lose such a significant amount of resource/troops?

- How can than happen effectively in one day?

- How can the loss be bigger than the average banking value of his highest BG (the loss is completely disproportionate to the lvl of BG he was on - 92 was top level at the time)

- After more than a month and 100 BG's are you really just gonna say that the resource will come out eventually?

- When we have stranded mails, herald, steward, scribe and marshal message, leagues strikes haven't calculated properly for over a year etc etc is really beyond reasonableness that the game doesn't always work as you expect?


Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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djmoody
21 December, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

Log Explanation:


- Each BG comes on 2 rows

- One row shows the Loaded resource

- One row shows the payout resource

- After each row the cumulative total is recalculated

- Sign convention is loading into the bank is positive, payouts out of the bank are negative

- So the banked resource that should drive the payout is the cumulative total on the Load line

- The cumulative total on the payout line shows you the bank after completion of the BG

- Green is a defensive BG, red an offensive BG and orange clearance of a top level

- The guys draws a line across the page at the end of the day (note he might not play the BG's for several days after the line, they don't necessarily represent consecutive days, but sometimes will)


PS it take considerable amount of my personal time to host this log and write these posts. It would be nice if a commensurate amount of effort was put into a response by Plarium.

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IronApex Turok
21 December, 2016, 7:06 PM UTC

DJMoody....


it was nice speaking with you these few years. youve been a dedicated player that the rest of us looked up. im saying my good buys because i fully expect you to meet the same fate as Lord Mark.... banned.
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
21 December, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

Dear Lords

i think you can post all u want inside the forum rules. you were said the reason Lord Mark was banned and i consider the main is education and respect for all users, players or cm`s that we all together are here in forum. if we loose that the coexistence finish and this turns into a nosense place.

about the all post i see about bgs, the only thing i can still say is pass all this info or to Lord Oberon via PM or to support for its study. really dont know if you have done it yet and still not answered but if it is this case, please try again if you consider something is wrong with bgs. insist in it all times you need.

on my side i cant sure if this feature works fine or not cause im still on banking way (although sometimes i think im going to pass DJ's mate on amount banked) so it is going to take some months to verify myself.

i dont want to forget to congratulate to DJ and his mates for all this hard work done and all this complied data. Nice work and i wish you can get ur goal with all this work

Regards and always at ur disposal

Juglar.


Resistance Is Futile
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djmoody
21 December, 2016, 11:09 PM UTC

He did a ticket to Support. Just got copy and past generic answer. It was clear they didn't even look at the log or the evidence. 

I'd post the response here, as people would be disgusted with the Plarium reply given the quality of the evidence provided  but I know it's against the forum rules.

I'll PM Oberon if you think it will help.
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IronApex Turok
21 December, 2016, 11:38 PM UTC

actually, tech support referred him to a tutorial that says tech support doesnt even read bg tickets.

plarium doesnt respect the players. how can we respect plarium or the cm's?
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Oracle
22 December, 2016, 1:54 AM UTC

I hope Plarium doesn't ban DJ. It will be a big blow to the neophytes and the general public. 


It will not take 1 hr for plarium to verify these. 

Try to contact some of the developers them self. 



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exxxe
22 December, 2016, 11:48 AM UTC

lords and ladies

support team tested both claims by lord mark and DJ regarding BG's and no issues were detected

maybe a change in strategy is the key

however it is a serious matter to the community and at the moment Eugenia can not read all posts or threads created about it

so all threads regarding BG's will be closed and any further comments or complaints must be posted in the tutorial thread

hope you all understand, thank you :))

I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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