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Unknown_Ranger
6 December, 2016, 2:36 AM UTC

As everyone is aware, there are many alternative accounts in the game...what i would like to ask is what are admins willing to do to stop this?

PS: dont give me the crap. I would like to see real action taking place. I reported one and the answer i got was "we will investigate but with cannot tell the outcome" WTF??? Is there supposed to be many outcomes for cheaters????
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IronApex Turok
6 December, 2016, 4:02 AM UTC
Unknown_Ranger said:

As everyone is aware, there are many alternative accounts in the game...what i would like to ask is what are admins willing to do to stop this?

PS: dont give me the crap. I would like to see real action taking place. I reported one and the answer i got was "we will investigate but with cannot tell the outcome" WTF??? Is there supposed to be many outcomes for cheaters????
i have reported many, seen many reported. i have yet to see any action about it. 
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Gadheras
6 December, 2016, 9:19 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

Unknown_Ranger said:

As everyone is aware, there are many alternative accounts in the game...what i would like to ask is what are admins willing to do to stop this?

PS: dont give me the crap. I would like to see real action taking place. I reported one and the answer i got was "we will investigate but with cannot tell the outcome" WTF??? Is there supposed to be many outcomes for cheaters????
i have reported many, seen many reported. i have yet to see any action about it. 
In other online games, you see quite often people post and rage on the forums over get banned ingame. Never see that with Stormfall, people that post stuff on the forums here that doesn't necessary follow the company line will find themselves with a ban and time off for a while though. So you can draw the conclusion, nothing happens with people ingame breaking the rules.
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djmoody
6 December, 2016, 10:53 AM UTC

There is no enforcement of alts.

To be honest I have seen very few developers deal with alts. The big issue is how do you prove an account is an alt? A family could play the game from one address, or a couple of friends. They will share the same IP address (they could even potentially share the same machines).

There is just no way to definitively prove an account in an alt.

As a result can't enforce the rule (not unless people push it ridiculously far and make it super obvious).

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Gadheras
6 December, 2016, 11:12 AM UTC
djmoody said:

There is no enforcement of alts.

To be honest I have seen very few developers deal with alts. The big issue is how do you prove an account is an alt? A family could play the game from one address, or a couple of friends. They will share the same IP address (they could even potentially share the same machines).

There is just no way to definitively prove an account in an alt.

As a result can't enforce the rule (not unless people push it ridiculously far and make it super obvious).

I dont know if they log it, but if you see the same castles feed another castle over and over. its a good indication.
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
6 December, 2016, 11:25 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

i have yet to see any action about it. 
You can't know for sure. We never disclose the results of investigation and the measures taken. They may differ from your expectations.
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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djmoody
6 December, 2016, 11:39 AM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:


i have yet to see any action about it. 

You can't know for sure. We never disclose the results of investigation and the measures taken. They may differ from your expectations.

No it's conclusively documented by player responses on the forum that nothing is done about alts. We know exactly what the score is. No need to pretend otherwise.

If alts were dealt with alts, suspect more than 2/3rds of the accounts in the game would be wiped out over night.

Hell you more often than not you don't have the energy to deal with organisations that created thousand of alt/bot castles and uses the results to try and under cut your own revenue stream. What hope for one player to get one alt dealt with......

Not that I have a huge problem with alts, nor a good suggestion for how they can be identified and dealt with. But still can't just leave an utterly disingenuous post like above just ride.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Gadheras
6 December, 2016, 4:30 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:

i have yet to see any action about it. 
You can't know for sure. We never disclose the results of investigation and the measures taken. They may differ from your expectations.
How about, just , remove all these bots, that is bloody known for ages. When not even that can be done, how can we put even the slightest fate into anything being done?
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Unknown_Ranger
6 December, 2016, 7:05 PM UTC
Gadheras said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:

i have yet to see any action about it. 
You can't know for sure. We never disclose the results of investigation and the measures taken. They may differ from your expectations.
How about, just , remove all these bots, that is bloody known for ages. When not even that can be done, how can we put even the slightest fate into anything being done?
Agreed, the inoperance of the administrators is ridiculous.
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IronApex Turok
6 December, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:


i have yet to see any action about it. 

You can't know for sure. We never disclose the results of investigation and the measures taken. They may differ from your expectations.

if i report an alt....and that alt continues to play.....


its pretty safe to say that you guys didnt do anything. 
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IronApex Turok
6 December, 2016, 9:04 PM UTC
Gadheras said:


In other online games, you see quite often people post and rage on the forums over get banned ingame. Never see that with Stormfall, people that post stuff on the forums here that doesn't necessary follow the company line will find themselves with a ban and time off for a while though. So you can draw the conclusion, nothing happens with people ingame breaking the rules.
one of the failings here is that your game identity isnt tied to your forum identity. the profiles arent connected. Imagine if someone wanted to create an account here in the forums, using your ingame name then make everyone mad  at you. A troll could draw a nice bit of fire your way. 
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Unknown_Ranger
6 December, 2016, 9:08 PM UTC
How about an admin come here to this topic and speak his words? That would be manly.
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IronApex Turok
6 December, 2016, 9:25 PM UTC

Unknown_Ranger said:


How about an admin come here to this topic and speak his words? That would be manly.

no need for an admin. i can tell you what they are going to say. 


" that kind of decision is made by technical support. i dont have that kind of access to technical support. I can review open tickets but i cannot tell you of the outcome of the decision made by technical support"
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Drogar61
6 December, 2016, 9:28 PM UTC

How can anyone from Plarium to answer on any problem in the game when they can't see problem.

I believe that Alyona isn't liar, so Plarium employees don't play game on regular servers. As she said, they play on their closed servers.

How many employees play this game? If there is more than 50 than I want to be Plarium employee. So, they have about one medium/small league on server - not much fun, right?

How many alts they have on that server? 0 (zero) because that is against the rules they are stated.

How many real money they're using to buy sapps? 0 (zero). They aren't stupid to spend real money for something that they have for free.

...

So, how much knowledge about real game they have?

ZERO. Or someone is big liar.

Do you really think that anyone can help us, even if they want (I really have serious doubt in that)?

Final score: ZERO!!!
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jumy
6 December, 2016, 10:47 PM UTC

Drogar61 said:


How can anyone from Plarium to answer on any problem in the game when they can't see problem.

I believe that Alyona isn't liar, so Plarium employees don't play game on regular servers. As she said, they play on their closed servers.

How many employees play this game? If there is more than 50 than I want to be Plarium employee. So, they have about one medium/small league on server - not much fun, right?

How many alts they have on that server? 0 (zero) because that is against the rules they are stated.

How many real money they're using to buy sapps? 0 (zero). They aren't stupid to spend real money for something that they have for free.

...

So, how much knowledge about real game they have?

ZERO. Or someone is big liar.

Do you really think that anyone can help us, even if they want (I really have serious doubt in that)?

Final score: ZERO!!!

At least is sugar free

The truth hurts
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Jezebel
8 December, 2016, 9:33 PM UTC

I said it before and I will say it again, the House of Unity is the main culprit of the creation of alts 


the bonuses were almost worth it a couple years ago lol
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roadstar Pitbull
8 December, 2016, 10:29 PM UTC

Yes it is so very hard to identify an alt account here,,along with the bots.

Minimal cities, specific buildings, no or near no offense or defense points and are higher levels this is particularly true for bots. Alts are usualy build for a specific task or goal, so something usually lacking in the castle.

And most here have no issue declaring they have and use an alt acct.,, why not, there is no action taken.
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Unknown_Ranger
9 December, 2016, 12:22 AM UTC

https://s18.postimg.org/v43qeovex/image.jpg



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IronApex Turok
9 December, 2016, 4:18 AM UTC

Unknown_Ranger said:


https://s18.postimg.org/v43qeovex/image.jpg



now you are in violation of sharing private in game conversations without permission.....


see how that works?



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Sir_bit_yakin
10 December, 2016, 3:35 PM UTC

it was said how do you prove alts, I sent a copy of someone bragging about their alt accounts in an open chat area, they referenced at least three separate accounts,   got the same answer as everyone else,  been months all the accounts mentioned are still active


how do you prove it you ask, well BRAGGING IN OPEN CHAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD CLUE


want proof NOTHING is done?


how bout the fact that the big league players talk freely about it in open chat because they KNOW ABSOLUTLEY  NOTHING WILL BE DONE.


if you are going to completely absolutely ignore a rule then remove it from the ToS and tell people outright that  alt accounts are perfectly acceptable


I like the accounts they call "hammers"  where all the members of a league donate X dollars to a pay pal account and they use that account to FEED an alt, then they use that "HAMMER"  to smash anything in their way


you think about that a moment, 

a league with 100 players each sending 10 dollars per week to a pay pal account  gives that account 1000 dollars a week in saphires a week to work with


other side of that coin is,  take that practice times 10  leagues and plarium is bringing in 10K  dollars per week, you think they are giving that up???

you do realize that's 40K per month  AKA  almost 1/2 a million dollars per year

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