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BG rewards not spitting out

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Extremption
17 November, 2016, 7:55 AM UTC

Been doing BG's for over a year and this is the most ive ever had to work to get my reward. I've easily put through 1.5m+ Offense and still no reward, my highest bg at the moment is 45. I've conquered at least 10 lvl 40-44 bg's and still no reward??


Does your reward reset to 0 after the weekly reset? Thats the only explanation i can think of, otherwise your bg system currently owes me a bigger reward than my highest bg can give. Is there a bug? Not sure ill be doing BG's ever again after my next reward. It certainly won't cover my losses, maybe give back half of what i put in. The highest bg reward for 45 is what like 400 Wyverns? Which is about 1mil Offense. As i said ive put in 1.5m+ offense easy, so yeah i suggest you re-work the reward system to what it was a year ago.


There is no way this current system is spitting out the same rewards as the last system. Doesn't matter how you give the troops but with each update please stop increasing the tax on the big reward, otherwise you'll make the mechanic redundant. Don't think equipment is a good enough incentive to cover the losses either. I shouldn't have to do 10+ level 40-44 Battlegrounds with my highest being 45 to get my big payout, there IS NO WAY it'll cover or come close to what i put in.


Fact: You have increased how much offense/defense we lose on tax/blackhole from the reward since last year, more than once.


Is it that hard to not milk us at every angle? I'm sure you make a killing off Emperors hammer alone. Re-working the bg reward system wouldn't be hard, im sure most of the community would prefer that compared to 99% of the updates you bring in these days. A.k.a quality of life updates. If you make BG's anymore less rewarding then expect that content to die lol, its heavy losses as it is :/ and don't you dare say tournaments rewards cover the losses. That's what coiners tell themselves to help themselves sleep at night.

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Ichezis
17 November, 2016, 5:53 PM UTC

Extremption said:


Been doing BG's for over a year and this is the most ive ever had to work to get my reward. I've easily put through 1.5m+ Offense and still no reward, my highest bg at the moment is 45. I've conquered at least 10 lvl 40-44 bg's and still no reward??


Does your reward reset to 0 after the weekly reset? Thats the only explanation i can think of, otherwise your bg system currently owes me a bigger reward than my highest bg can give. Is there a bug? Not sure ill be doing BG's ever again after my next reward. It certainly won't cover my losses, maybe give back half of what i put in. The highest bg reward for 45 is what like 400 Wyverns? Which is about 1mil Offense. As i said ive put in 1.5m+ offense easy, so yeah i suggest you re-work the reward system to what it was a year ago.


There is no way this current system is spitting out the same rewards as the last system. Doesn't matter how you give the troops but with each update please stop increasing the tax on the big reward, otherwise you'll make the mechanic redundant. Don't think equipment is a good enough incentive to cover the losses either. I shouldn't have to do 10+ level 40-44 Battlegrounds with my highest being 45 to get my big payout, there IS NO WAY it'll cover or come close to what i put in.


Fact: You have increased how much offense/defense we lose on tax/blackhole from the reward since last year, more than once.


Is it that hard to not milk us at every angle? I'm sure you make a killing off Emperors hammer alone. Re-working the bg reward system wouldn't be hard, im sure most of the community would prefer that compared to 99% of the updates you bring in these days. A.k.a quality of life updates. If you make BG's anymore less rewarding then expect that content to die lol, its heavy losses as it is :/ and don't you dare say tournaments rewards cover the losses. That's what coiners tell themselves to help themselves sleep at night.

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 November, 2016, 6:06 PM UTC

Extremption said:


Been doing BG's for over a year and this is the most ive ever had to work to get my reward. I've easily put through 1.5m+ Offense and still no reward, my highest bg at the moment is 45. I've conquered at least 10 lvl 40-44 bg's and still no reward??


Does your reward reset to 0 after the weekly reset? Thats the only explanation i can think of, otherwise your bg system currently owes me a bigger reward than my highest bg can give. Is there a bug? Not sure ill be doing BG's ever again after my next reward. It certainly won't cover my losses, maybe give back half of what i put in. The highest bg reward for 45 is what like 400 Wyverns? Which is about 1mil Offense. As i said ive put in 1.5m+ offense easy, so yeah i suggest you re-work the reward system to what it was a year ago.


There is no way this current system is spitting out the same rewards as the last system. Doesn't matter how you give the troops but with each update please stop increasing the tax on the big reward, otherwise you'll make the mechanic redundant. Don't think equipment is a good enough incentive to cover the losses either. I shouldn't have to do 10+ level 40-44 Battlegrounds with my highest being 45 to get my big payout, there IS NO WAY it'll cover or come close to what i put in.


Fact: You have increased how much offense/defense we lose on tax/blackhole from the reward since last year, more than once.


Is it that hard to not milk us at every angle? I'm sure you make a killing off Emperors hammer alone. Re-working the bg reward system wouldn't be hard, im sure most of the community would prefer that compared to 99% of the updates you bring in these days. A.k.a quality of life updates. If you make BG's anymore less rewarding then expect that content to die lol, its heavy losses as it is :/ and don't you dare say tournaments rewards cover the losses. That's what coiners tell themselves to help themselves sleep at night.

Lord Extremption

what i can sure u is that the bank never reset so the troops you kill are banked in ur bg bank (ur looses-small payouts)

the problem now is that although the bank is properly loaded, the payout does not come by any kind of problem or programming. nice answer i have seen is what Lord djmoody has posted in banking battlegrouds.

he is an experimented bg player and test always all posibilities, he and his mates also good bg players. you can see what he supposes in this link: http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/10777_banking-battlegrounds/?post=215021

my advise could be the same...if you think you have banked enough for certain level and dont receive the big payout, stop till next day, spend last small payout and try again, and so till you get it

hope you will get it soon

Regards

Resistance Is Futile
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BeastMaster
17 November, 2016, 6:10 PM UTC

BG's were definitely bugged over the weekend. Not tried them today.

The bug seems to completely prevent payouts under any circumstances.
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Extremption
18 November, 2016, 11:16 AM UTC

Juglar del Viento said:


Extremption said:


Been doing BG's for over a year and this is the most ive ever had to work to get my reward. I've easily put through 1.5m+ Offense and still no reward, my highest bg at the moment is 45. I've conquered at least 10 lvl 40-44 bg's and still no reward??


Does your reward reset to 0 after the weekly reset? Thats the only explanation i can think of, otherwise your bg system currently owes me a bigger reward than my highest bg can give. Is there a bug? Not sure ill be doing BG's ever again after my next reward. It certainly won't cover my losses, maybe give back half of what i put in. The highest bg reward for 45 is what like 400 Wyverns? Which is about 1mil Offense. As i said ive put in 1.5m+ offense easy, so yeah i suggest you re-work the reward system to what it was a year ago.


There is no way this current system is spitting out the same rewards as the last system. Doesn't matter how you give the troops but with each update please stop increasing the tax on the big reward, otherwise you'll make the mechanic redundant. Don't think equipment is a good enough incentive to cover the losses either. I shouldn't have to do 10+ level 40-44 Battlegrounds with my highest being 45 to get my big payout, there IS NO WAY it'll cover or come close to what i put in.


Fact: You have increased how much offense/defense we lose on tax/blackhole from the reward since last year, more than once.


Is it that hard to not milk us at every angle? I'm sure you make a killing off Emperors hammer alone. Re-working the bg reward system wouldn't be hard, im sure most of the community would prefer that compared to 99% of the updates you bring in these days. A.k.a quality of life updates. If you make BG's anymore less rewarding then expect that content to die lol, its heavy losses as it is :/ and don't you dare say tournaments rewards cover the losses. That's what coiners tell themselves to help themselves sleep at night.

Lord Extremption

what i can sure u is that the bank never reset so the troops you kill are banked in ur bg bank (ur looses-small payouts)

the problem now is that although the bank is properly loaded, the payout does not come by any kind of problem or programming. nice answer i have seen is what Lord djmoody has posted in banking battlegrouds.

he is an experimented bg player and test always all posibilities, he and his mates also good bg players. you can see what he supposes in this link: http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/10777_banking-battlegrounds/?post=215021

my advise could be the same...if you think you have banked enough for certain level and dont receive the big payout, stop till next day, spend last small payout and try again, and so till you get it

hope you will get it soon

Regards

Thats what i was trying for 5-6 days running, doing 1-3 a day. 5-6 the first day, so ive done over 10+ and still no reward, over multiple days. Thats why i turned here in my frustration, because i know for sure that ive thrown in at least 500k+ offense than what ill get back, max reward at 44 is around 1m-1.1m offense and as ive said ive thrown 1.5mil+ easy so at the moment doing more its like dragging yourself over glass cause you know your not getting it back and that you should have your reward by now. Something i noticed when the "unfair advantages" update came in is that it takes alot longer to get your reward now, perhaps random is good but set a max limit yeah? 


It's not fair to let players to keep going blowing up their troops trying to get their big payout that they should have already due to the fact that its spit out randomly. It turns people away from BG's, me for example. Especially when they have experienced that in the past, you are FOOLS if you expect veteran players not to notice the increased losses from BG's. Many reasons why alot dont partake in them anymore, unless they got the cashroll to cover the losses. 


Make it random but at least a cap of how much you throw in for your levels/last reward etc, you should not have to throw in 500k+ at times more than others on the same levels to try get your reward, how can we be sure or track that we are getting the proper rewards back? You have spaced the rewards out longer overtime for that exact reason, so we cannot as there is always men in the blackhole. You never get it back so yes you implemented the "unfair advantage" mechanical changes to increase our losses on the big reward cause its hard to track if its proper or not as you usually have to throw in what u get from medium/small rewards to go for the big one.


The only way i can see reasons for this is to increase the losses without people being able to notice it clearly, with explanations like this.... saying its random without a code or program to cap it in anyway is pathetic. Lack of service tbh or on purpose, i think the latter. 

Well played Plarium but after my reward i won't be doing BG's again. They are too broken & imbalanced now. You are too money hungry, don't be surprised if this leads to a chain of events of things in this game become useless & redundant in turn killing the incentive for people to play. (no one likes being pushed into a corner) 

Good example is the current situation of imbalance between fortresses & beacons. To be honest, every update ive seen come in the last few months benefits ONE league alot more than others & thats EMPERORS. Possible plarium employees are in that league? The last 6 months points to that explanation. Or is it that FRENZIE spends the most money on this game by far? Funded by multiple players? Don't want to stop that revenue pool? Can't see long-term? Guess your short-term way of thinking will catch up when this games dead in 6 months because of leagues like EMPERORS & your ignorance to balancing the game. You just dropped more beacons than ever & at this time they are more redundant than ever, you need 5 for a fortress than your sweet as EMPERORS has proven. 


Heres a business plan/model for you Plarium, introduce Super beacons, like you have on similar games. Heavy offense players will spend more to catch up to the defense increase & defense players will spend more cause theres a reason to have defence again. There is a thread on here called "Unified Beacons" which speaks about this, check it out. Will increase your revenue from all angles as itll restore balance back to the game. There, a solution to your problems at the moment. Cause the whole serves fed up with your offense orientated updates the last 6 months.

P.S. You are pushing too much

Time to ease up and take care of your players/customers, enough exploiting PLEASE!!!

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Extremption
18 November, 2016, 11:38 AM UTC

Also if it takes 5 beacons to get you fortress to level 20 it should also be a requirement to hold 5 to keep level 20. Its the highest level after all, it should have the most requirements to keep it. 


ESPECIALLY since theres a fortress attack limit so with enough defence it becomes unbreakable as EMPERORS has proven. 


Id put it simply this way, Plariums on the EMPERORS hype train because its bringing them alot of revenue in short bursts, dont think this'll last, your not taking notice of all the small time revenue players leaving, soon leagues like EMPERORS will have no one to hit but themselves if theres no way to counter them. 


Its an attitude problem, you have more than enough feedback from players to understand that the majority is quite upset with Plarium at the moment & unless theres an attitude change on your behalf nothing will be solved and this game will slowly die, quickly if you keep on this track. Im hopeful i give it 6 months on this current path of riding EMPERORS you know what.


A blind man could call you out on your shortsightedness, maybe then youll listen? Lol
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
18 November, 2016, 12:07 PM UTC
Extremption said:

Also if it takes 5 beacons to get you fortress to level 20 it should also be a requirement to hold 5 to keep level 20. Its the highest level after all, it should have the most requirements to keep it. 


ESPECIALLY since theres a fortress attack limit so with enough defence it becomes unbreakable as EMPERORS has proven. 


Id put it simply this way, Plariums on the EMPERORS hype train because its bringing them alot of revenue in short bursts, dont think thisll last, your not taking notice of all the small time revenue players leaving, soon leagues like EMPERORS have no one to hit by themselves if theres no way to counter it. 


Its an attitude problem, you have more than enough feedback from players to understand that the majority is quite upset with Plarium at the moment & unless theres an attitude change on your behalf nothing will be solved and this game will slowly die, quickly if you keep on this track. Im hopeful i give it 6 months on this current path of riding EMPERORS you know what.


A blind man could call you out on your shortsightedness, maybe then youll listen? Lol
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exxxe
18 November, 2016, 12:07 PM UTC

lords and ladies if you are certain there is something wrong with BG's 


send all details and information you may have ( what have you done / how much banked / what BG lvl / last big payout date ,,,,etc )

to lord oberon through PM 


thank you 
I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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Extremption
18 November, 2016, 12:20 PM UTC
exxxe said:

lords and ladies if you are certain there is something wrong with BG's 


send all details and information you may have ( what have you done / how much banked / what BG lvl / last big payout date ,,,,etc )

to lord oberon through PM 


thank you 
You cannot PM Lord Oberon, what advice is this from a mod?
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Extremption
18 November, 2016, 12:21 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Extremption said:

Also if it takes 5 beacons to get you fortress to level 20 it should also be a requirement to hold 5 to keep level 20. Its the highest level after all, it should have the most requirements to keep it. 


ESPECIALLY since theres a fortress attack limit so with enough defence it becomes unbreakable as EMPERORS has proven. 


Id put it simply this way, Plariums on the EMPERORS hype train because its bringing them alot of revenue in short bursts, dont think thisll last, your not taking notice of all the small time revenue players leaving, soon leagues like EMPERORS have no one to hit by themselves if theres no way to counter it. 


Its an attitude problem, you have more than enough feedback from players to understand that the majority is quite upset with Plarium at the moment & unless theres an attitude change on your behalf nothing will be solved and this game will slowly die, quickly if you keep on this track. Im hopeful i give it 6 months on this current path of riding EMPERORS you know what.


A blind man could call you out on your shortsightedness, maybe then youll listen? Lol
If you have any suggestions on how to improve the game or a certain feature, please use a designated forum thread. I will gladly give you an answer there.
If you read all that and just responded with i posted it in the wrong place then please never give me advice/feedback again. You are a waste of time, thank you.
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exxxe
18 November, 2016, 4:48 PM UTC
Extremption said:

exxxe said:

lords and ladies if you are certain there is something wrong with BG's 


send all details and information you may have ( what have you done / how much banked / what BG lvl / last big payout date ,,,,etc )

to lord oberon through PM 


thank you 
You cannot PM Lord Oberon, what advice is this from a mod?
you can PM him here in forum 
I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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Roftie
18 November, 2016, 5:06 PM UTC

http://prntscr.com/d8xm90


it still pays its just more tricky than before.

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
18 November, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

roftie said:


http://prntscr.com/d8xm90


it still pays its just more tricky than before.

Dear players

yep, balur stills pays and in coherence with the level. the problem is not the payouts, the problem seems to be the frecuency of the payout when ur bank is supposed filled. it takes a lot of tries to get it even if you have ur bank ready. 

hope the devs take a look on it to see if there are any kind of problem or its any kind of new programing in the last update of bg they did some months ago. in this last case, they should think about it and read all players complainings.

Regards
Resistance Is Futile
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Reaper
18 November, 2016, 5:50 PM UTC

But didnt Oberon say that we get a payout in every BG ?

And is the bank deleted if a new update is on server ? Few said the bank was deleted after the updates on server and the whole fields they prepared were not the payout they should get from it
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
18 November, 2016, 8:30 PM UTC

Reaper said:


But didnt Oberon say that we get a payout in every BG ?

And is the bank deleted if a new update is on server ? Few said the bank was deleted after the updates on server and the whole fields they prepared were not the payout they should get from it

every bg has a small payout if your bank is not ready for the big, so if you finish the bg u have to add to ur bank ur looses minus the smal payout.

the bank has never been reseted since u started to play and it has never been reseted since that even on updates or mechanichs changes.

hope this can clarify ur doubts.

Regards


Resistance Is Futile
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IronApex Turok
18 November, 2016, 9:10 PM UTC
drop down to the 25 - 35 level bgs. ive had better success there. 
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Reaper
18 November, 2016, 10:13 PM UTC
And i thought it was imagination i had in low lv BGs better payouts than in the higher lvs. Better payout in lv 17-22 than above
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Extremption
18 November, 2016, 11:43 PM UTC

Regardless of your explanations


I should have received my big payout by now. Either my accounts bugged or im having some serious rotten luck


But one things for sure, BG's are worse off then they were before they brought in the "unfair advantage" update


It made the BG mechanic worse, yes the devs really need to look at the reward system because its taking way too long to get your big payout which means ur losing alot more on the tax/blackhole cause u cant track it properly 


I can do 5-6 40-44's one week get my reward, other weeks 10-13+ and its still the same reward. So basically its pot luck if your going to lose a little or a ALOT. Like i said, make the payouts random fine but put a CAP on it. Anyone with a brain understands where im coming from.


Fix the BG reward system please, because atm they basically arent worth doing


I see people saying stick to low levels, well yes its an idea but we shouldnt be forced into a corner. It should be balanced across all levels not higher losses as you go up in levels to get better gear/points etc. Every angle of this game and updates last 6 months has been to give us less/entice us to destroy and make redundant free ways to progress & give every possibility to progress with money.


You are too greedy Plarium and its destroying the game, has been for 6 months. BG's just dont need changing, your whole attitude towards the game needs changing at the moment.
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wbh033
19 November, 2016, 11:54 AM UTC
I totally Agree! BGs are not acting as per usual.. I have never had such a large loosing streak before.. Usually I can play 15 to 20 rounds of BGs before receiving some payout.. Today, I had to go 30 rounds before receiving a payout - and it was a very small payout.. Banking is not the issue. I banked a ton of troops and got a terrible deal. I won't be spending anymore on this game until Plarium gets fair with its customers. Lost +20 mil offence/defence today. Lost faith in Plarium.
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Extremption
21 November, 2016, 7:38 PM UTC
Just tried one more time (this is the 4th lvl 43-45 bg ive done since posting this thread) so ive done about 15+ now and no reward, keep getting 50 occult or 20 beastiary. Im done with this game, its broken, goodbye
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