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Reaper
27 November, 2016, 8:35 PM UTC

toggit said:


Reaper said:


i have my spies too and i use them but right now the reses are rare in Untamed. Bots inactive and empty, incative players most lv 2-5 and the most high lv castles are empty too now. And the last active castles arround me are own members, allies and maybe few i can raid but only 1 time every week then i have to wait 1 week again. What i shall raid the other days of the week ? The other castles are far away to much time to defend or castles where i know they are coiners, instant recaller are not unlimited items, boosts the same. How much options i have ?

And im not alone with this problem in Untamed

This is why all bots need to be obliterated - new message received today


Master -809; 1415


[16:15] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at 

Web link deleted - visible only to mods and admin

I have the same but this are not the bots i meant. i mean the castles you find in fields or lines. Never saw offers of them in market like i read here from others or that they swopped over the map with teleports (esp where this feature exist nearly 3 weeks in Untamed)


http://prntscr.com/dci9uk


And i never get messages from this castles.

This master thingy has nothing to do with the bots i mean and i want see active again.


http://prntscr.com/dcibce

My master is in 1415  -1010


I hope you see the difference between the scammer stuff, gold seller etc. and farming castles in the landscape. The castles in my screenshot never changed their position or made offers in market or what ever they do and that for months nearby a year ago only their activity changed.

All in the field are inactine the lines are active http://prntscr.com/dciems

And if they are from from players and not from the developers then explain me how they can stay in lines and fields in a time where no teleports were in server ?

I think you mean other castles like i do this master thing can go but the other castles i prefer to have in game cos they are not bad/dangerous all what they need are to be active again that they fill the reses faster again.

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Snowgoon
27 November, 2016, 8:55 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


toggit said:


Reaper said:


i have my spies too and i use them but right now the reses are rare in Untamed. Bots inactive and empty, incative players most lv 2-5 and the most high lv castles are empty too now. And the last active castles arround me are own members, allies and maybe few i can raid but only 1 time every week then i have to wait 1 week again. What i shall raid the other days of the week ? The other castles are far away to much time to defend or castles where i know they are coiners, instant recaller are not unlimited items, boosts the same. How much options i have ?

And im not alone with this problem in Untamed

This is why all bots need to be obliterated - new message received today


Master -809; 1415


[16:15] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at 

Web link deleted - visible only to mods and admin

As stated many times these are exploitation sites. Please submit a ticket to support at http://support.plarium.com/enstormfall/Tickets/Submit/Step1/48. Please include screenshot of location and server of the sender of the message.

Not one chance in a million, dude

We have had our fill of sending tickets and never get an answer - nothing changes

Has anyone read the bot discussions on the pirate forum next door? Plarium don't give a damn.


No matter what we do will make NO DIFFERENCE until plarium find a way to permanently remove all bots from the map.
Attempting to de-activate them is hopeless, they simply re-activate a few days later


Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Gadheras
27 November, 2016, 10:12 PM UTC

Reaper said:


toggit said:


Reaper said:


i have my spies too and i use them but right now the reses are rare in Untamed. Bots inactive and empty, incative players most lv 2-5 and the most high lv castles are empty too now. And the last active castles arround me are own members, allies and maybe few i can raid but only 1 time every week then i have to wait 1 week again. What i shall raid the other days of the week ? The other castles are far away to much time to defend or castles where i know they are coiners, instant recaller are not unlimited items, boosts the same. How much options i have ?

And im not alone with this problem in Untamed

This is why all bots need to be obliterated - new message received today


Master -809; 1415


[16:15] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at 

Web link deleted - visible only to mods and admin

I have the same but this are not the bots i meant. i mean the castles you find in fields or lines. Never saw offers of them in market like i read here from others or that they swopped over the map with teleports (esp where this feature exist nearly 3 weeks in Untamed)



You thick? Those bots are the ones that supply the goods you know. there is no NICE bots.... The castles they spam their adverts from is not the same that supply what they sell. All these bots is like supply nodes in a network.


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Rosconz
28 November, 2016, 6:52 AM UTC
On a nearly related matter. I am in a medium sized league, a month or 2 back we got a new member, hnc4Wb3 (not the actual name). He/it has never made any attempt at communicating or done anything obvious. My archer has never been tripped. I'm wondering is it just an unfortunate choice of name for a non-communicative player or could bots be leagueing up so they don't lose so many of the resources they want to sell?
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Rosconz
28 November, 2016, 6:57 AM UTC
While I am here, Plarium saying "Tell us where the bots are." What a joke. They are everywhere. If you can't find them yourselves then you are completely out of touch with your own game.
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Reaper
28 November, 2016, 9:34 AM UTC

Like i said the castles i mean in my screenshots never sold anything, no scrolls, no reses and they never used teleports. And where is the problem to raid a castles which produce reses and is not defended the same is an regular inactive player castle too. You all cry i dont spend but we need reses so the most raid inactives they are even low defended like the castles in my screenshot. If you all can attack active players constantly and have the saphs for it fine. Me not and if Gad would looking right he never would found an offer of them in market.

But this dont explain how they can stay in fields and lines without teleports, like in Untamed Lands. How is it possible to cheat that so much castles stay in orders like this (geometric shapes) if they are located by random if players made this ? If Gad has an answer i would be glad to hear this.

In other games you have farming areas as well and they are not implemented by any players.

I never said i support the master thingy that they sell stuff in game, but the castles you see in the screenshot did nothing like that only producing reses i took in raids.
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Reaper
28 November, 2016, 9:45 AM UTC

Rosconz said:


While I am here, Plarium saying "Tell us where the bots are." What a joke. They are everywhere. If you can't find them yourselves then you are completely out of touch with your own game.

The castles in my shots are solid in their location i can find in 5 mins all fields and lines to it that is not difficult cos they never changed their positions.

And no they dont are in leagues. But i know few players with strange names of letters and numbers too but they are no bots they raid and siege castles.
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Solidarius
28 November, 2016, 10:13 AM UTC

bot and gold sellers/cheaters w/e you wana call them are a problem in every single video game


if you guys expect that they can shut them down overnight or anything close to this your unreasonabl ,


the best we can do is not buy there products they sell or Plarium giving out better deals than the competition makes them worthless...


btw.... what the hell do these guys even sell?


even small leagues have a "Scroll Bank" and something similar.... they cant be selling resources because raiding is like the only fun part of the game....


iam confused at what these bots actually sell and make monie from....


is there a way to "gift" items or sappires in the game?
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Sifr
28 November, 2016, 10:45 AM UTC

1. Castle placement is not random rather in a spiral form much like the beacons. If you make 2 or more castle with litlle to no time difference it will make a nice pattern.

2. These bots castles are used to supply. What they 'might' sell : Resources, units to stay in your keep (can't be used by you, just defending your castle), units to kill for pvp and scrolls. Can't think of anything else. 

Most of the time these 'farmers' are not interested in your ingame purchases and more interested in your CC details, Thus the heavy warning to not use their services.
Fighter Sifr of Fellowship
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Rosconz
28 November, 2016, 10:52 AM UTC

golemisolon said:


bot and gold sellers/cheaters w/e you wana call them are a problem in every single video game


if you guys expect that they can shut them down overnight or anything close to this your unreasonabl ,


the best we can do is not buy there products they sell or Plarium giving out better deals than the competition makes them worthless...


btw.... what the hell do these guys even sell?


even small leagues have a "Scroll Bank" and something similar.... they cant be selling resources because raiding is like the only fun part of the game....


iam confused at what these bots actually sell and make monie from....


is there a way to "gift" items or sappires in the game?

This is all new to me also but I have been reading through this and some other threads today and this is my grasp on the situation. Hopefully those in the know will correct any errors I make.

A "Gold Seller" runs a program which sets up hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Bot accounts. He then sends mail to select, real players offering them cheap Resources. Say he gets an order for 1 million gold, he then gets each of the bots to send enough gold to fill the order to a "Master Account" (Reaper, this will probably NOT be an account called Master. More likely just another bot name.) or maybe several master accounts. The gold is then transfered to the buyers account at a cost far less than the buyer could get them from Plarium. (I haven't figured how this is done efficiently, surely not 50k at a time?) 


So that is it in a nut shell. Have I got it badly wrong anywhere?


EDIT: WARNING Thats how it works IF they are a true (Haha I almost said legitimate) gold seller but there is just as much chance that they could just be fraudsters after your credit card number. SO DON'T GO THERE.
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Gadheras
28 November, 2016, 1:42 PM UTC
Sifr said:

1. Castle placement is not random rather in a spiral form much like the beacons. If you make 2 or more castle with litlle to no time difference it will make a nice pattern.

2. These bots castles are used to supply. What they 'might' sell : Resources, units to stay in your keep (can't be used by you, just defending your castle), units to kill for pvp and scrolls. Can't think of anything else. 

Most of the time these 'farmers' are not interested in your ingame purchases and more interested in your CC details, Thus the heavy warning to not use their services.
actually not quite true, as paypal is a option, and they can't get your cc details that way. 
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Sifr
28 November, 2016, 1:48 PM UTC
Gadheras said:

Sifr said:

1. Castle placement is not random rather in a spiral form much like the beacons. If you make 2 or more castle with litlle to no time difference it will make a nice pattern.

2. These bots castles are used to supply. What they 'might' sell : Resources, units to stay in your keep (can't be used by you, just defending your castle), units to kill for pvp and scrolls. Can't think of anything else. 

Most of the time these 'farmers' are not interested in your ingame purchases and more interested in your CC details, Thus the heavy warning to not use their services.
actually not quite true, as paypal is a option, and they can't get your cc details that way. 
Yeah, that's why I said most of the time. This is actually the first time I see farmers using paypal as option lol (well, I didn't play thta much nline game, so...)
Fighter Sifr of Fellowship
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IronApex Turok
28 November, 2016, 3:42 PM UTC

[11:41] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at www.Plarium.site

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Knightmare
28 November, 2016, 4:26 PM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


[11:41] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at www.Plarium.site

In pirates their use has gotten so out of control that bots are actually placing in the rankings for pvp .


And at then end of the days its cheaper than what you can get it for in game.


Yeppers. That is a downward spiral if I ever saw one.



Nug Life !
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Solidarius
28 November, 2016, 4:37 PM UTC

GoGo Knightmare said:


IronApex Turok said:


[11:41] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at www.Plarium.site

In pirates their use has gotten so out of control that bots are actually placing in the rankings for pvp .


And at then end of the days its cheaper than what you can get it for in game.


Yeppers. That is a downward spiral if I ever saw one.




lol the stuff these guys offer is just sad.... do people really pay for this stuff?.... everything they "sell" can be reached in the game via a decent league or a few friends...

the only thing might be hard to obtain is the scrolls or house of unity 50 friends, but thats suspecious I figure that will get you banned faster than telling Plarium , " I bought services from a third party" XD
do people really fall for this crap? XD

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Knightmare
28 November, 2016, 4:44 PM UTC

golemisolon said:


GoGo Knightmare said:


IronApex Turok said:


[11:41] Master: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, scrolls, 50 friends for your House of Unity, Defense or Attack for Beacons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.


Check us out today at www.Plarium.site

In pirates their use has gotten so out of control that bots are actually placing in the rankings for pvp .


And at then end of the days its cheaper than what you can get it for in game.


Yeppers. That is a downward spiral if I ever saw one.




lol the stuff these guys offer is just sad.... do people really pay for this stuff?.... everything they "sell" can be reached in the game via a decent league or a few friends...

the only thing might be hard to obtain is the scrolls or house of unity 50 friends, but thats suspecious I figure that will get you banned faster than telling Plarium , " I bought services from a third party" XD
do people really fall for this crap? XD

Of course people buy that crap. Lol. They buy palariums crap to don't they. :)



Nug Life !
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Solidarius
28 November, 2016, 6:33 PM UTC

I guess there a fool born every day, or w/e the saying is... 


I will laugh when i see a post of someone saying they fell for this scam and lost real money XDDDDDDDD
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Reaper
28 November, 2016, 6:34 PM UTC

Rosconz said:

This is all new to me also but I have been reading through this and some other threads today and this is my grasp on the situation. Hopefully those in the know will correct any errors I make.

A "Gold Seller" runs a program which sets up hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Bot accounts. He then sends mail to select, real players offering them cheap Resources. Say he gets an order for 1 million gold, he then gets each of the bots to send enough gold to fill the order to a "Master Account" (Reaper, this will probably NOT be an account called Master. More likely just another bot name.) or maybe several master accounts. The gold is then transfered to the buyers account at a cost far less than the buyer could get them from Plarium. (I haven't figured how this is done efficiently, surely not 50k at a time?) 


So that is it in a nut shell. Have I got it badly wrong anywhere?


EDIT: WARNING Thats how it works IF they are a true (Haha I almost said legitimate) gold seller but there is just as much chance that they could just be fraudsters after your credit card number. SO DON'T GO THERE.

I know to raid more than 50k i never purchased reses from this castles (i dont mean this master stuff thingy) but this is not longer possible cos they are inactive they dont fill up fast the resources again. I never sent or recieved mails from this castles. I always raided them... why not its the same like raiding inactive players ,i use the best ways to get more with fewer risks, but i dont pay for it. This master accs (before it called friend) i dont use for it.

I know few here in this thread use them for fiefs i have 2 of them for it too. I want only that this castles, i searched 45 mins for 1 year ago to raid the reses i needed to build up an army and my league, are active again that i can raid the reses from them like a lot other players too.
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Gadheras
28 November, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

golemisolon said:


I guess there a fool born every day, or w/e the saying is... 


I will laugh when i see a post of someone saying they fell for this scam and lost real money XDDDDDDDD

well you can claim Plarium is scamming us for money too. Also "gold" sellers that does it for the long haul have no interest in scam you, because a successfull buy/sale means a happy customer, that might share the experience with his friends and then they get more business coming.


I don't defend what they do or the practice, but on the other hand I don't cry scam and foul automaticaly either.
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Gadheras
28 November, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

Reaper said:


Rosconz said:

This is all new to me also but I have been reading through this and some other threads today and this is my grasp on the situation. Hopefully those in the know will correct any errors I make.

A "Gold Seller" runs a program which sets up hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Bot accounts. He then sends mail to select, real players offering them cheap Resources. Say he gets an order for 1 million gold, he then gets each of the bots to send enough gold to fill the order to a "Master Account" (Reaper, this will probably NOT be an account called Master. More likely just another bot name.) or maybe several master accounts. The gold is then transfered to the buyers account at a cost far less than the buyer could get them from Plarium. (I haven't figured how this is done efficiently, surely not 50k at a time?) 


So that is it in a nut shell. Have I got it badly wrong anywhere?


EDIT: WARNING Thats how it works IF they are a true (Haha I almost said legitimate) gold seller but there is just as much chance that they could just be fraudsters after your credit card number. SO DON'T GO THERE.

I know to raid more than 50k i never purchased reses from this castles (i dont mean this master stuff thingy) but this is not longer possible cos they are inactive they dont fill up fast the resources again. I never sent or recieved mails from this castles. I always raided them... why not its the same like raiding inactive players ,i use the best ways to get more with fewer risks, but i dont pay for it. This master accs (before it called friend) i dont use for it.

I know few here in this thread use them for fiefs i have 2 of them for it too. I want only that this castles, i searched 45 mins for 1 year ago to raid the reses i needed to build up an army and my league, are active again that i can raid the reses from them like a lot other players too.

When you raid these bot castles, there is a reason why they hardly got food in them, but plenty of gold and iron, can you imagine why? Lets see if you can add 1 +1 together :p


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