Calling Out Sara Walker

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djmoody
12 September, 2016, 7:11 PM UTC

Given there isn't a shred of truth in your comment below I am calling you out to expand, explain and provide some back up.

Sarah Walker said:


oh nice , now everyone will believe you are right haha

dont forget i was in the UC meetings too i saw how you used anarchy to get what you wanted then threw them to the wolves

keep on twisting it about tho , your looking good


Either we will be able to put you straight about stuff you have been lied or you know exactly what you are posting and you are full of BS, in which case it will be a pleasure to expose you.

What isn't going to happen here is for Emp people to flood the forum with utter BS.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Tychi
12 September, 2016, 7:37 PM UTC

djmoody said:


Given there isn't a shred of truth in your comment below I am calling you out to expand, explain and provide some back up.

Sarah Walker said:


oh nice , now everyone will believe you are right haha

dont forget i was in the UC meetings too i saw how you used anarchy to get what you wanted then threw them to the wolves

keep on twisting it about tho , your looking good


Either we will be able to put you straight about stuff you have been lied or you know exactly what you are posting and you are full of BS, in which case it will be a pleasure to expose you.

What isn't going to happen here is for Emp people to flood the forum with utter BS.

The only person lying and manipulating at the UC meetings was Test-e-cools lol. DJ, what is it with all lot following him like dogs on a lead?.. When I spoke to Dave about Test-e-cools lies he said he knows and its not the 1st time. Yet you still follow him. HE threw KoK under the bus by telling you lot to go to War with Emps knowing full well you guys stood no chance whatsoever of winning. He knew full well what Offence Emps were carrying. When will you guys wake up and smell the roses? How much are you guys willing to lose just to protect Test-e-cools. We kill KoK, we kill GoA, we killed Elite. Where was Test in helping you lot out?....Thats right sitting there laughing that his plan is coming together nicely and now you all go running to him to help. Guess what?....when this is over all you guys who went to help Test-e-cools out with your def in the Bc's will lose out. He won't lose out as he's an Offensive player. He is using you guys and you don't see it. 


DJ, i know your an intelligent guy and you only have to look at it from the outside and you will see everything i said is true. It doesn't bother me either way as the more def the merrier, just means more points and more pleasure for us.
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Sarah Walker
12 September, 2016, 8:08 PM UTC
Dj , i dont have to explain myself to you or anyone else in this game , you can call as loud as you want and i wont hear you , im not willing to take the time to explain all what went on for you to start pulling bits out of what i say and twisting things round , you are blinded by the UC and dont see the bigger picture , you latch on to what others do wrong and wont let it go , but when you lot do wrong its quickly swept under the carpet , there is so much i would like to explain to you but i know it will only be blown out of proportion and twisted round by avoiding the truth and pulling the bits out you can twist and manipulate to make yourselves look good 
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Jezebel
12 September, 2016, 8:09 PM UTC
Tychi said:

djmoody said:


Given there isn't a shred of truth in your comment below I am calling you out to expand, explain and provide some back up.

Sarah Walker said:


oh nice , now everyone will believe you are right haha

dont forget i was in the UC meetings too i saw how you used anarchy to get what you wanted then threw them to the wolves

keep on twisting it about tho , your looking good


Either we will be able to put you straight about stuff you have been lied or you know exactly what you are posting and you are full of BS, in which case it will be a pleasure to expose you.

What isn't going to happen here is for Emp people to flood the forum with utter BS.

The only person lying and manipulating at the UC meetings was Test-e-cools lol. DJ, what is it with all lot following him like dogs on a lead?.. When I spoke to Dave about Test-e-cools lies he said he knows and its not the 1st time. Yet you still follow him. HE threw KoK under the bus by telling you lot to go to War with Emps knowing full well you guys stood no chance whatsoever of winning. He knew full well what Offence Emps were carrying. When will you guys wake up and smell the roses? How much are you guys willing to lose just to protect Test-e-cools. We kill KoK, we kill GoA, we killed Elite. Where was Test in helping you lot out?....Thats right sitting there laughing that his plan is coming together nicely and now you all go running to him to help. Guess what?....when this is over all you guys who went to help Test-e-cools out with your def in the Bc's will lose out. He won't lose out as he's an Offensive player. He is using you guys and you don't see it. 


DJ, i know your an intelligent guy and you only have to look at it from the outside and you will see everything i said is true. It doesn't bother me either way as the more def the merrier, just means more points and more pleasure for us.
More utter rubbish ....
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Tychi
12 September, 2016, 8:39 PM UTC
Jezebel said:

Tychi said:

djmoody said:


Given there isn't a shred of truth in your comment below I am calling you out to expand, explain and provide some back up.

Sarah Walker said:


oh nice , now everyone will believe you are right haha

dont forget i was in the UC meetings too i saw how you used anarchy to get what you wanted then threw them to the wolves

keep on twisting it about tho , your looking good


Either we will be able to put you straight about stuff you have been lied or you know exactly what you are posting and you are full of BS, in which case it will be a pleasure to expose you.

What isn't going to happen here is for Emp people to flood the forum with utter BS.

The only person lying and manipulating at the UC meetings was Test-e-cools lol. DJ, what is it with all lot following him like dogs on a lead?.. When I spoke to Dave about Test-e-cools lies he said he knows and its not the 1st time. Yet you still follow him. HE threw KoK under the bus by telling you lot to go to War with Emps knowing full well you guys stood no chance whatsoever of winning. He knew full well what Offence Emps were carrying. When will you guys wake up and smell the roses? How much are you guys willing to lose just to protect Test-e-cools. We kill KoK, we kill GoA, we killed Elite. Where was Test in helping you lot out?....Thats right sitting there laughing that his plan is coming together nicely and now you all go running to him to help. Guess what?....when this is over all you guys who went to help Test-e-cools out with your def in the Bc's will lose out. He won't lose out as he's an Offensive player. He is using you guys and you don't see it. 


DJ, i know your an intelligent guy and you only have to look at it from the outside and you will see everything i said is true. It doesn't bother me either way as the more def the merrier, just means more points and more pleasure for us.
More utter rubbish ....
Truth hurts eh?
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djmoody
12 September, 2016, 11:12 PM UTC

Sarah Walker said:


Dj , i dont have to explain myself to you or anyone else in this game , you can call as loud as you want and i wont hear you , im not willing to take the time to explain all what went on for you to start pulling bits out of what i say and twisting things round , you are blinded by the UC and dont see the bigger picture , you latch on to what others do wrong and wont let it go , but when you lot do wrong its quickly swept under the carpet , there is so much i would like to explain to you but i know it will only be blown out of proportion and twisted round by avoiding the truth and pulling the bits out you can twist and manipulate to make yourselves look good 

Ok so you actually have no backing to your lies. Glad I called you out on it. Can't justify a word you said can you, choosing to just post another meaningless jumble of words that have no substance behind them.

Anarchy joined UC.

Its first action in UC was to attack an agreed beacon handover between Fellowship and another UC members. Couldn't resist the inside knowledge you had to mess up your own allies beacon transfers.All that for some cheap Anarchy red spam in chat.

The clincher was that no1 in Anarchy would even apologise or admit that anything was wrong. That soured things more than the action itself.

As a result UC decided that our play styles weren't a good fit and unanimously voted for you to leave. You did nothing to benefit any other UC member in your short stay and when you left you went back to exactly the position you had been in 2 weeks earlier. In your world "used and thrown to the wolves" but then your world is cloud cuckoo land.

How you get to your story I will never know. The best lies at least have a kernel of truth to them. Just making it all up, is making you guys look extremely stupid.

And talking about posts that don't have a kernel of truth about them (actually a kernal of sense in this case).....

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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djmoody
12 September, 2016, 11:12 PM UTC

As it worked so well with Shin's post, put Tychi's post through Google translate with setting from BS to Engish and got this

Tychi said:



I am probably known as being one of the dumbest players in the game. I have lost and bought back my troops more times than you have had hot dinners

I think it's a great idea that I respond to a post that isn't aimed at me with a load of unbelievable and outrageous BS that has nothing to do with the thread (at least that might get Sara out the trouble she got herself in by distracting everyone)

Maybe if I make out that KoK went to war with Emps and that Test told them to do it, there might be someone more stupid than me out there who might believe it. Surely no1 noticed that Emps started the war, its not like there is red spam about beacon attacks in game.

Then I can slur Test by saying what did he do to help you defend your beacons when he could do nothing to help cause we dropped all our beacons so nothing to hit and Destiny can't exactly put its defence in KoK beacons. Some people might be stupid enough to buy this though. I am onto a winner.

So word of advice. There is no1 more stupid than you in the game. So no1 is going to buy the ridiculous posts you are making. You aren't clever enough to try and be clever.

As I said to Sara - if you want to tell convincing lies then at least base them on a kernal of truth. You can't just blurt our ridiculous utterly unfounded garbage and expect it to stick.

To be honest it would be good if Emps could grow some integrity and just stick to some truth and facts. I guess you guys could be role-playing complete holes but I suspect you just are ones.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 12:09 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Sarah Walker said:


Dj , i dont have to explain myself to you or anyone else in this game , you can call as loud as you want and i wont hear you , im not willing to take the time to explain all what went on for you to start pulling bits out of what i say and twisting things round , you are blinded by the UC and dont see the bigger picture , you latch on to what others do wrong and wont let it go , but when you lot do wrong its quickly swept under the carpet , there is so much i would like to explain to you but i know it will only be blown out of proportion and twisted round by avoiding the truth and pulling the bits out you can twist and manipulate to make yourselves look good 

Ok so you actually have no backing to your lies. Glad I called you out on it. Can't justify a word you said can you, choosing to just post another meaningless jumble of words that have no substance behind them.

Anarchy joined UC.

Its first action in UC was to attack an agreed beacon handover between Fellowship and another UC members. Couldn't resist the inside knowledge you had to mess up your own allies beacon transfers.All that for some cheap Anarchy red spam in chat.

The clincher was that no1 in Anarchy would even apologise or admit that anything was wrong. That soured things more than the action itself.

As a result UC decided that our play styles weren't a good fit and unanimously voted for you to leave. You did nothing to benefit any other UC member in your short stay and when you left you went back to exactly the position you had been in 2 weeks earlier. In your world "used and thrown to the wolves" but then your world is cloud cuckoo land.

How you get to your story I will never know. The best lies at least have a kernel of truth to them. Just making it all up, is making you guys look extremely stupid.

And talking about posts that don't have a kernel of truth about them (actually a kernal of sense in this case).....



Ok anarchy was asked to join the UC with the false pretenses of knocking KT off the top spot to help get destiny in the number 1 spot so the first thing you said is rubbish 


the first thing anarchy was asked to do was to help take down the knights not to take the fellowship beacons so again you are talking crap 


the clincher lol thats brilliant , in one of the first meetings it was all agreed upon by the UC that fellowship would not be allowed to grow , that suited anarchy as anarchy was at war with fellowship , low and behold the rest of the UC decides to give fellowship some beacons ? the very same week , at the next meeting when it was brought up destiny threaten to pull out of the UC and its swept under the carpet very quickly all forgiven 

when anarchy admitted they was in the wrong for taking the beacon that the UC had given them it was a different story and they could never be forgiven , destiny already had the number 1 spot and didnt want no more to do with anarchy , bye bye anarchy , you served your purpose , we are going on fellowships side now 


not before anarchy produced some screenshots proving that destiny was telling lies though , but still the rest of the UC refused to believe it and again that got quickly swept under the carpet and the subject changed 

that to me looks like anarchy was used and thrown to the wolves , you was there Dj maybe the sun down south has got to your head and you forgot but i didnt 


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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 12:54 AM UTC

sarah walker =  31 forum posts 

tychi             =   17 forum posts 


Dj moody     = 500 forum posts 


who do we think the one talking the most BS is here :)
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djmoody
13 September, 2016, 12:56 AM UTC

Well I see in that post some heart felt opinions even if you have come to faulty conclusion. We might get somewhere with this convo after all.

Anarchy wasn't asked to join UC to fight KT. 

UC has had a good relationship with KT for over a year now. With time it continues to improve. With the civil war inside KT that led to may members moving to Fellowship and a general lack of activity within the league we figured that KT would decline naturally. There was no need to war them. And despite Emps having several times given KT beacons, propping them up, KT had fallen to third b4 this war started.

Anarchy had always been a close friend to KoK due to Big Hurt's involvement in both leagues. We asked you to UC based on the feeling that you were strong allies in all but the formal agreement and out of respect for the growth Anarchy had achieved - you would be a valuable addition. That is it simple.

You weren't asked to take out the Fellowship beacons. Quite the contrary it was meant to be a peaceful handover you just abused the inside knowledge to mess up the transfer, presumably for cheap achievements. Maybe you have a better story but no1 from Anarchy ever offered a different explanation. And you didn't offer an apology - that was one of the major reasons UC members were unhappy with you. 

Crusher was part of the vote to attack Knights. He was in total agreement and offered no opposition. From memory I think you guys were quite excited by it as you had no love for Unforgiven. On the night you turned up with x6 3m softening blows. Those weren't required being too small and you didn't take part in the attack. The irony being that KoK is being attacked for our part in that night's attacks but Anarchy were just as much up for it as everyone else and now your all inside the very organisation you only by luck on the night didn't attack. Got to see a shed load of irony in that, strange the way things work out.

Had Anarchy had a problem with attacking Knights it wouldn't have happened as we don't start wars without everyone's agreement (in fact we rarely start wars at all).

I can't for the life of me understand why you would think Destiny going no1 would change our opinion of having Anarchy in the UC. It's not logical even from the perspective you have set out. If we needed you inside to fight KT, KT's power hadn't changed in those 2 weeks, we would still have needed you. Surprise or not but the rest of UC doesn't exist to make Destiny no1, voting you in and out on that grounds would never had happened.

Again another irony you wouldn't be aware of. After a barny within UC before you joined, Destiny actually had a captains vote on whether or not they wanted no1 and voted that they were not interested, it wasn't a goal of the league. If it well in there lap naturally so be it, if not no problem.

The way Anarchy was exited was insensitive. If I had been around (I was on holiday) it would have been done differently. UC had a vote without you and then told you were out. Formally I guess that is the way the UC works - voting - but clearly it was going to lead to a sense of rejection and upset (which it clearly has). I would have talked to Crusher about our cultures being too far apart for it to work and we would have come to the same conclusion that was true. I have subsequently talked to Sarrgon about it and he agrees it was a mistake to bring us all together and wouldn't never have worked - you were too far to the PvP end of the spectrum.

I think it's a crying shame you feel the way about us that you do because it's coming from misconception and misunderstanding. The way you were brought in and left was really bad management and decision making. The handling of the exit was bad. The rest really only exists in your reading of things, they didn't go down anywhere near how you think they did.

Sorry for writing a book but a lot to aired there.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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djmoody
13 September, 2016, 1:00 AM UTC

Sarah Walker said:


sarah walker =  31 forum posts 

tychi             =   17 forum posts 


Dj moody     = 500 forum posts 


who do we think the one talking the most BS is here :)

Probably you - cause you clearly only come onto the forums to spread propaganda in the last few days, while I spend all year here talking to all sorts of people about all sort of things.

Any more own goals you want to score. 

Anyway you should probably read the post I just made above before we return to flaming.
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 1:06 AM UTC
you said all i need to read , you was on holiday lol so your on the forums flaming about something you know nothing about appart from what you have been told which is hearsay 
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Jezebel
13 September, 2016, 1:12 AM UTC
Sarah Walker said:

you said all i need to read , you was on holiday lol so your on the forums flaming about something you know nothing about appart from what you have been told which is hearsay 
omg really???? I believe we were all in the same TS at those UC meetings.  I just cannot look at this load of BS anymore .... please someone stop the madness!!!
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 1:15 AM UTC
o oh here comes the cavalry :)
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djmoody
13 September, 2016, 3:30 AM UTC

Sarah Walker said:


you said all i need to read , you was on holiday lol so your on the forums flaming about something you know nothing about appart from what you have been told which is hearsay 

The only bit I was away for was when Anarchy was exited Sara (as it says in my post). I gave you a considered response that took time to write, it didn't deserve a feeble troll.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 6:00 AM UTC

i appreciate you have taken time to write a reply but it was you who called me out , called me a liar and demanded i explain what i meant by thrown to the wolves , i did explain it and you have basically just said yes it wasnt handled correctly and you in fact did throw anarchy to the wolves 


so how do you justify the call out saying it was lies ?  also saying i had no foundation to say what i said when clearly i was not wrong 
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Jezebel
13 September, 2016, 6:43 AM UTC
well since we are talking about wrong doings then how would you label the "breach of trust" when Anarchy used information obtained at a UC meeting for their own gains.  This breach of trust is what resulted in the vote by UC.  Different play styles are fine but if you want to be in an alliance with other leagues then you need to work with them cohesively.  It appeared this was not something that Anarchy was willing to do.
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 6:57 AM UTC
well thats the pot calling the kettle , there was obviously some bond already formed with fellowship and destiny before any of this happened , what i cant explain is why would destiny let fellowship have them beacons in the first place when they agreed with the rest of the UC not to let fellowship grow 
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Sarah Walker
13 September, 2016, 6:59 AM UTC
are you saying its ok for destiny to breach the trust but nobody else can ? 
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BiohazarD
Moderator
13 September, 2016, 7:04 AM UTC

 Sarah Walker said:


well thats the pot calling the kettle , there was obviously some bond already formed with fellowship and destiny before any of this happened , what i cant explain is why would destiny let fellowship have them beacons in the first place when they agreed with the rest of the UC not to let fellowship grow 

What do you care about that anyways?  Anarchy wasn't in the UC at that point, and therefore shouldn't have even been involved in the meetings. The only reason you even knew about that agreement was because someone accidentally let you into the meeting room...  Any plans the UC had or didn't have regarding fellowship had nothing to do with you. 

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