Percentages not right for boost in Dragon Arts

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cat in the hat
9 July, 2016, 6:35 PM UTC

I have Altar of Mara boost maxed at 60%. When you activate this art if you do 500 Mararian Amulets that takes 1 hour to make with no boost. The game only reduces it to 37 minutes and 30 seconds. That is so wrong with a 60% boost. 60 minutes times 60% would be 36 minutes reduced to make the 500 Mararian Amulets. So 60 minutes minus 36 minutes you would ge 24 minutes to make 500 Mararian Amulets.


I dont think Plarium cares about there mistakes. This needs to be fix, along with any other boost they screwed up on.
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brunsonthomas
Moderator
9 July, 2016, 7:20 PM UTC
I checked other values of discounts for the Dragon Discount of Mara Amulets. I will notify Plarium and seek answer for calculations.
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Vladimir Stojanovic
9 July, 2016, 9:08 PM UTC

My Lord,
Currently bonuses increase production speed, not reduce the time.

1 builder would build a Barn in 1 day (an example). If we increase the speed of his work, that means that he will build 1,5 Barns in 1 day. And what is the building time for 1 Barn then?


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Snowgoon
9 July, 2016, 10:23 PM UTC

The Dragon Art for Castle Defense bonus does not include Castle Skins, why not?


We pay much more for these castle skins than they do on facebook servers, and our skins are much weaker too - This is made much worse when dragon arts also ignores them


Compare this skin from Facebook servers - only costs 2,000 sapphires but gives 1.500 defense bonus - I bought my facebook skin for 600 sapphires using discounts from the wheel of fortune. Plarium.com sux

Ours cost 5,000 sapphires and only give 1,000 bonus - http://prntscr.com/bqx4dg



Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Inaginni
9 July, 2016, 11:51 PM UTC

Vladimir Stojanovic said:


My Lord,
Currently bonuses increase production speed, not reduce the time.

1 builder would build a Barn in 1 day (an example). If we increase the speed of his work, that means that he will build 1,5 Barns in 1 day. And what is the building time for 1 Barn then?


As Vlad pointed out, this is how they work.


For your case of a 60% boost the following would happen:


New Time = Old Time/(1 + 0.6) = 60 minutes/1.6 = 37.5 minutes (exactly as you found)
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djmoody
10 July, 2016, 12:23 AM UTC

This thread comes up way too often (not just on dragon stuff).

Probably a good idea to clarify the bonuses in game, as increases in base speed not decreases in time taken.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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cat in the hat
10 July, 2016, 1:59 AM UTC

Vladimir Stojanovic said:


My Lord,
Currently bonuses increase production speed, not reduce the time.

1 builder would build a Barn in 1 day (an example). If we increase the speed of his work, that means that he will build 1,5 Barns in 1 day. And what is the building time for 1 Barn then?




Increase speed by 60% or reduce time by 60% would be the same thing. This is sounding more of a dictatorship if Plarium want to twist what Increase speed and reduce time is. Either way 60% of an hour is 36 minutes subtracted off an hour. 

Someone really need to do learn there math. Or Plarium just going to stay corrupted about it, that's what Altar of Mara boost states 60%. 

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cat in the hat
10 July, 2016, 2:08 AM UTC

Inaginni said:


Vladimir Stojanovic said:


My Lord,
Currently bonuses increase production speed, not reduce the time.

1 builder would build a Barn in 1 day (an example). If we increase the speed of his work, that means that he will build 1,5 Barns in 1 day. And what is the building time for 1 Barn then?


As Vlad pointed out, this is how they work.


For your case of a 60% boost the following would happen:


New Time = Old Time/(1 + 0.6) = 60 minutes/1.6 = 37.5 minutes (exactly as you found)

Yes but that 37.5 minutes is what would need to be subtraced off 60 minutes so it would only take 22.5 minutes to do 500 Maranian Amulets. So your only half way correct with that answer.
So 50% is less or more of half of 60 which is 30? Please go back to elementary school please. Math has no dictating in the right anwser only the wrong answer

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Tetix
10 July, 2016, 2:47 AM UTC

cat in the hat said:


Vladimir Stojanovic said:


My Lord,
Currently bonuses increase production speed, not reduce the time.

1 builder would build a Barn in 1 day (an example). If we increase the speed of his work, that means that he will build 1,5 Barns in 1 day. And what is the building time for 1 Barn then?




Increase speed by 60% or reduce time by 60% would be the same thing. This is sounding more of a dictatorship if Plarium want to twist what Increase speed and reduce time is. Either way 60% of an hour is 36 minutes subtracted off an hour. 

Someone really need to do learn there math. Or Plarium just going to stay corrupted about it, that's what Altar of Mara boost states 60%. 


Hey, you are totally wrong and the one to go back to junior school lol :)


Example to prove you wrong: +100% increase speed case


This would mean double the production speed. Doubling the production speed means that you can do the same job in half time.


1 hour /(1+1) = 30 minutes as others already said


and not 1 hour - 100% = 0 minutes...


Increase production speed and reduce time needed is NOT the same...
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Vladimir Stojanovic
10 July, 2016, 10:48 AM UTC
Tony Hobson said:

The Dragon Art for Castle Defense bonus does not include Castle Skins, why not?


We pay much more for these castle skins than they do on facebook servers, and our skins are much weaker too - This is made much worse when dragon arts also ignores them


Compare this skin from Facebook servers - only costs 2,000 sapphires but gives 1.500 defense bonus - I bought my facebook skin for 600 sapphires using discounts from the wheel of fortune. Plarium.com sux

Ours cost 5,000 sapphires and only give 1,000 bonus - http://prntscr.com/bqx4dg



My Lord please use Suggestions and Feedback part of forum
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Snowgoon
10 July, 2016, 5:02 PM UTC

Vladimir Stojanovic said:


Tony Hobson said:


The Dragon Art for Castle Defense bonus does not include Castle Skins, why not?

My Lord please use Suggestions and Feedback part of forum

This thread is about bonuses from Dragon Stone.

My question is about bonuses from Dragon Stone.

I see no reason to spam this forum with new threads
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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brunsonthomas
Moderator
10 July, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

So a 17% boost to production speed means you make them at 1.17 times the normal rate.  Ie the 8 hour one takes 8/1.17=6.84 hours or 6 hours 50 minutes.  NOT 8*(1-0.17)=8*.83=6.64 hours or 6 hours 38 minutes.

 This is an example from Dragon Arts bonus using my own castle and Maranian Amulet bonus.


If there are still math questions. Please do not hesitate to ask.
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