Fief is a FOUR LETTER WORD!

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Aaron KT3
17 June, 2016, 1:44 AM UTC

Fief is a FOUR LETTER WORD!

The only person who “owns” a fief is the one who started the castle in question. If they have left the game it’s FAIR GAME.

If you are strong enough to take it, it’s yours to raid. If you are strong enough to defend it, it’s yours to hold and farm.

There are no “rules” for fiefs other than those you agree to by being a part of a league.

Most large leagues raid the fiefs of those they have embassy relations with (Allied or At Peace), as well as EACH OTHERS within their league. It is simple MATH.

For every 100 hourly resources you can harvest (ASSUMING you can, and do, hold it for 24 hours and 7 days in a week) it is worth 16.8k. 16,800.

Assuming you never spend a single sapphire the max resource raid you will have is 82k or 82,000. (Activating a level 10 Paragon bonus equates to 86k or 86,000.) Buy sapphires, and spend them on sketches, and your max raid will be 100k or 100,000.

So, 82,000 to raid verses 16,800 resources to hold that same fief for a full week.

The maximum resources from any fief I’ve ever encountered in the game is 400/hour and that will be from somebody’s ACTIVE castle. The owner of that active fief is going to want it back*. Either he, or a league member of his, is likely to knock you off of it long before a week is out. If they don’t, someone else will.

From a good Botline, about 305/hour in resources is up there. 51.24k or 51,240 is the maximum worth of that Botline fief to a player TRYING to hold it all week long. A player raiding it will get between 82 to 100k for a single maxed out raid. SEVERAL players can hit that same Botline fief for a maximum amount during the week as it regenerates resources. 

In general players at higher levels, and time spent in the game, do NOT hold fiefs EXCLUSIVELY for their resource value. Lower lever players still developing their castles and lost arts do, arguably, need fiefs.

The bottom line is DON’T expect to hold a productive fief full of resources!

*The exception to this is a dirty little secret.


Aaron
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IronApex Turok
17 June, 2016, 7:55 AM UTC

ive always told my members actually holding a fief is pointless. just raid one.



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Daniel
17 June, 2016, 5:54 PM UTC

It doesn't seem like only 16.8k per week to me   http://prntscr.com/bhmge3   its a lot more than that . But still raiding is better than keeping one and if you decide to hold one don't be mad when others keep hitting on it.

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Aaron KT3
17 June, 2016, 7:02 PM UTC

Daniel said:


It doesn't seem like only 16.8k per week to me   http://prntscr.com/bhmge3   its a lot more than that . But still raiding is better than keeping one and if you decide to hold one don't be mad when others keep hitting on it.

100 res/ hr x 24 hr/ day x 7 days/ week =  16,800 res/ week



Aaron
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Daniel
17 June, 2016, 7:32 PM UTC

It depends on what kind of castle you siege but if you hold a high level bot lets say 61 you get 400 res/hr    http://prntscr.com/bhnpzc 

400res/hr x 24 /day x 7 days/week = 67200 res 

if you hold 3 castles you get  67200 x 3 =201600 res per week

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Aaron KT3
17 June, 2016, 8:12 PM UTC

Daniel said:


It depends on what kind of castle you siege but if you hold a high level bot lets say 61 you get 400 res/hr    http://prntscr.com/bhnpzc 

400res/hr x 24 /day x 7 days/week = 67200 res 

if you hold 3 castles you get  67200 x 3 =201600 res per week

That was in fact covered above.  My example was for a 100 res/hour castle but others were given for comparison.


In any case, your 3 castle example is worth 246,000 to 300000 per week for a SINGLE raider.  Figuring those fiefs will regenerate and SEVERAL raiders will hit those fiefs.


The MATH is against you.  Players are going to raid for resources.  Fiefs are usually regarded by most leagues as "Fair Game" unless altered by league treaties.  Your personal, or league policies, just aren't going to effect that.


League marshals don't want to get bogged down with people PMing and crying over fiefs and it's a sad player that will go to war over fief raids. The troop loss just isn't worth it.


Again, if you can take it and hold it, more power to you, but, especially during pvp, you will lose it.
Aaron
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Daniel
17 June, 2016, 8:43 PM UTC

Aaron KT1 said:


Daniel said:


It depends on what kind of castle you siege but if you hold a high level bot lets say 61 you get 400 res/hr    http://prntscr.com/bhnpzc 

400res/hr x 24 /day x 7 days/week = 67200 res 

if you hold 3 castles you get  67200 x 3 =201600 res per week

That was in fact covered above.  My example was for a 100 res/hour castle but others were given for comparison.


In any case, your 3 castle example is worth 246,000 to 300000 per week for a SINGLE raider.  Figuring those fiefs will regenerate and SEVERAL raiders will hit those fiefs.


The MATH is against you.  Players are going to raid for resources.  Fiefs are usually regarded by most leagues as "Fair Game" unless altered by league treaties.  Your personal, or league policies, just aren't going to effect that.


League marshals don't want to get bogged down with people PMing and crying over fiefs and it's a sad player that will go to war over fief raids. The troop loss just isn't worth it.


Again, if you can take it and hold it, more power to you, but, especially during pvp, you will lose it.

No its not worth that much to a single raider because you are allowed to take only 50K per week per castle (there are the caravan pushes to take something more tho but not 300k in week its not possible) 


Its true MANY players will attack that fief , but not especially in pvp time (who keeps more than 1 archer in a fief?.lol )


Going in war for fiefs is a TOTAL STUPID action and as you said not worthy

But like i said above in the first reply raids is better than sieges BUT you don't get only 16.8k per week on sieges.

I haven't sieged a bot for like 2-3 months now (but the one that i sieged earlier to see how much they give :P ) ..i only raid and i have made MANY players angry about their fiefs and since they don't find any of mine they just send Fb's at me to make me stop.lol ..but that doesn't work either :P 

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Aaron KT3
17 June, 2016, 11:18 PM UTC

Are you reading what I wrote?  Anywhere?


300,000k was for ALL THREE of your example 3 castles and is absolutely true.  16.8k is for EACH 100 res per hour a castle produces, absolutely true.


Here is a typical raid on a 305 res/ hours lvl 41 castle.   http://prntscr.com/bhqhsk   As you can see, 86k resources in one raid.  And yes, I used a single caravan push.

Aaron
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Daniel
18 June, 2016, 2:15 PM UTC

Aaron KT1 said:


Are you reading what I wrote?  Anywhere?


300,000k was for ALL THREE of your example 3 castles and is absolutely true.  16.8k is for EACH 100 res per hour a castle produces, absolutely true.


Here is a typical raid on a 305 res/ hours lvl 41 castle.   http://prntscr.com/bhqhsk   As you can see, 86k resources in one raid.  And yes, I used a single caravan push.

I passed a "quick eye" on them not sure if i read all :P :P :P .

Oh well i understood what you were trying to say now :P . And if you read anywhere what i have said you will see that i have said that Raids are better than sieges . You can get 500k per day (without pushing) for raids and 200k all week from sieges so raids ARE better.


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Lady Nerium KT-S2
22 June, 2016, 9:01 PM UTC
I've decided holding fiefs is too much aggravation, especially since you can get so much more by raiding.  There's plenty of castles out there belonging to people you don't have diplomacy with. I don't feel that it's worth the headache of having to actually go to the Keep and pick up the pittance you get per hour before someone else raids and you've lost it.
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jumy
22 June, 2016, 9:40 PM UTC

Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:


I've decided holding fiefs is too much aggravation, especially since you can get so much more by raiding.  There's plenty of castles out there belonging to people you don't have diplomacy with. I don't feel that it's worth the headache of having to actually go to the Keep and pick up the pittance you get per hour before someone else raids and you've lost it.

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Lady Nerium KT-S2
22 June, 2016, 10:11 PM UTC

I value my game time and micro-managing a fief to collect constantly isn't something I care to do.  I'm not a big coiner, but I would rather buy the occasional sapphire package then tie up my gaming time doing something I don't find enjoyable.

Thank you for the suggestion though Jumy, I do appreciate the information.

I think, therefore I game.
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RickB FoL
11 August, 2016, 8:38 PM UTC
bump
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IronApex Turok
11 August, 2016, 9:38 PM UTC
Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:

I value my game time and micro-managing a fief to collect constantly isn't something I care to do.  I'm not a big coiner, but I would rather buy the occasional sapphire package then tie up my gaming time doing something I don't find enjoyable.

Thank you for the suggestion though Jumy, I do appreciate the information.

as boring as the game has become with pointless tournys, we now may have time to manage alternate accounts. 
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