I also see no issues here. Your losses depend on the type of Units you choose. Some give better results against particular Balur Units, and some don't 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

I also see no issues here. Your losses depend on the type of Units you choose. Some give better results against particular Balur Units, and some don't 

And please, watch your language and follow our Forum rules. This is my first and last warning. 

what are you saying? you stop teasing people or you have fun? 

63.000 defence balur troops in a lv24, understand or pretend? lv24 is 30/33k not 63k

zach-rose11 said:

What is the problem? BG's are not the best for you to be investing your whole army in. If you look around the web you'll see how the payouts are calculated, and it might help you start to get more than you put in.

the problem is another (11)

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ty for special offert but at this condition you take nothing by me, only lose other one, we are only numbers that matter to you?

back my troops, (value around 6-7k sapphire in infirmary) and i value if Plarium value 1 penny

for your fun is 30k, and also for experience of many people that even have made user guide alert for 32k (not double)

silence constructive confirms the teasing, for first by support

the rest of the crap you say so and team "bgs have not changed" (read well your post and by team) is a fraud

anyway lose ye, i lose virtual troops, ye real money 

pls stop delete my post

i agree with Jumy.

Nemanja said:

Stormfall: Age of war is great strategy game. Best way for achieving results is gaining in game experience. There are rules for forum discussion. Obey them.

No disrespect, but with age come experience, and your age is..... like an infant. Registered: 05/31/2016

Nemanja said:

Stormfall: Age of war is great strategy game. Best way for achieving results is gaining in game experience. There are rules for forum discussion. Obey them.

No disrespect, but with age come experience, and your age is..... like an infant. Registered: 05/31/2016

jumy said:

lv24 around 63k

now i want back my troops, is a fraud this game, lose another player now byby

I don't see how you get 63k

32,200 Infantry Defense
33,800 Cavalry Defense
52,760 Occult Defense
72,520 Bestiary Defense

3195 Battleground Ranking is approx 10% of the average defensive value
63 Tournament Points is 3195/50

I could kill that bg with 269 Paladins. (32,263.9 offense) - http://prntscr.com/bejatx

... or better still send a wave of Pikemen to weaken it and then finish it off with my zero-loss squad (one of each unit type)

Tony Hobson said:

jumy said:

lv24 around 63k

now i want back my troops, is a fraud this game, lose another player now byby

I don't see how you get 63k

32,200 Infantry Defense
33,800 Cavalry Defense
52,760 Occult Defense
72,520 Bestiary Defense

3195 Battleground Ranking is approx 10% of the average defensive value
63 Tournament Points is 3195/50

I could kill that bg with 269 Paladins. (32,263.9 offense) - http://prntscr.com/bejatx

... or better still send a wave of Pikemen to weaken it and then finish it off with my zero-loss squad (one of each unit type)

Your calculations above are quit right Tony. But now don't attack it with only 1 kind of units but from all 4 (Infantry, Cavalry, Occult and Bestiary). To make it easier, use this battle calculator http://stormfall.playtamin.com/

There are 100 different unit types to collect including Legendary, Dark, Eldrich, Imperial and Normal units (not including spies).
100 different units gives me well over 75k offense, which means that I can kill any red bg containing 30k defense or less (divide total by 2.5) - http://prntscr.com/betxp7

The trick is to weaken higher level bg first by sending enough Infantry and/or Cavalry so that I can safely send my bg squad to complete the job.
Battlegrounds with a high population of Marennon often require extra waves of Pikemen/Paladins.

When hitting battlegrounds for unit rewards I use normal methods to fill my resource bank.

I use many different battle calculators including playtamin, http://pirates.vsego.org/calc.php and http://stormfallguide.blogspot.co.uk/

None of these are perfect but they certainly help.

djmoody said:

And that is a stupid way to try and quote a BG's power - calculating off a bestiary heavy offence,marching into the teeth of a Marannon heavy defense. At it's extreme that will overstate the base value of the BG by up to 3 times (in the quote case more than twice).

Jumy was perfectly correct to expect 32k Balur strength at any level 24 battleground. Plarium have set a secret trap, and Jumy fell into it.

I have seen many high level, experienced players fall into the same trap, losing over 7 million offense at level 100 battlegrounds (and getting no rewards)

The problem is caused by excessive marennon population within random battlegrounds, and no way to get full battle reports from red bg.
We can send one archer to green battlegrounds, so why are red battlegrounds kept secret?

Maybe Stormfall Devs enjoy killing our Dragons?

We do not have this problem in the Pirate game, where they have replaced balur units with something much more predictable

Edit: This is a Level 23 Pirate Battleground with Zero Loss (Pirate units are identical to Stormfall units)
Pirate Battlegrounds are not weaker than Stormfall Battlegrounds, they are just more predictable.

http://prntscr.com/bfmven

check the xp you got from that level and compare the average for that level

in first waves you almost can predict what numbers of every troop its inside with the xp you get in the hit and the final xp from that level

i always work with xp's not with ofense/defense force

Regards

I will certainly experiment with comparing xp from red battlegrounds. I have always ignored xp and concentrated on the Battleground Ranking figures (which should be 10% of average strength)

We are desperate to find an accurate method of predicting bg strength on stormfall - I have seen many bg charts and battle calculators but they all use average values - which can easily be doubled when the population of ogres or marrenon is higher than average

Tony Hobson said:

I will certainly experiment with comparing xp from red battlegrounds. I have always ignored xp and concentrated on the Battleground Ranking figures (which should be 10% of average strength)

We are desperate to find an accurate method of predicting bg strength on stormfall - I have seen many bg charts and battle calculators but they all use average values - which can easily be doubled when the population of ogres or marrenon is higher than average

Sending a wave of pikemen helps a lot, and gives us an idea of relative balur population ... but a FULL battle report should be given

Its called SPYING and its silly we cant spy on bg's.... the means is there already , just not the ability.

after done my ban i m here now :D

my real problem in this bg is game, i have select different number but game send casual troops, logically support in this game deserves a big 

no comment

however i see even the most expert confused  in these comments, bg change on course by strategy and need at least 37k infarty for clear this bg

first time i see one so composed (lv24) but all adapts  to you

so well is a fantastic game, we go on with strategy, not play and save troops, great game