How does the Lost Arts work with "Reinforcing" another player?

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wlilko
8 April, 2016, 4:26 PM UTC

-Thought this topic would probably be better off in discussion

My question: "Does anyone know if you send reinforcements to an ally or just friend, will the other players Lost arts effect your troops? Or will your lost arts still buff the troops you sent? I'm aware that relics are not supposed to buff allied troops reinforcing someone, and shards buff, but what happens with lost arts?"

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Gadheras
8 April, 2016, 4:27 PM UTC

wlilko said:


-Thought this topic would probably be better off in discussion

My question: "Does anyone know if you send reinforcements to an ally or just friend, will the other players Lost arts effect your troops? Or will your lost arts still buff the troops you sent? I'm aware that relics are not supposed to buff allied troops reinforcing someone, and shards buff, but what happens with lost arts?"


Only thing that will affect your troops is the defence stats of his/her castle.


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wlilko
8 April, 2016, 4:32 PM UTC
Where can we find that confirmation? I sent my friend 3.7m in defence, I have 35% walls. He sent me a screen shot and to send my troops back it totalled 2.7m defence, and he only has 15% bonus walls. The math dosen't make sense
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Gadheras
8 April, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

wlilko said:


Where can we find that confirmation? I sent my friend 3.7m in defence, I have 35% walls. He sent me a screen shot and to send my troops back it totalled 2.7m defence, and he only has 15% bonus walls. The math dosen't make sense

Well, your level of troops and relics/boosts + his defence stats, should make up your troops total defence value.



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Lady Nerium KT-S2
8 April, 2016, 5:09 PM UTC
Anything that affects the Castle itself should affect defense sent from another player, but Lost Arts only affect your own troops. The Dragon Art - Protector - would work on any troops in the castle, but not - Dragon Scales - since that is for your troops only. That's something that can be checked since you can test with it activated and not activated.
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wlilko
8 April, 2016, 5:20 PM UTC
Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:

Anything that affects the Castle itself should affect defense sent from another player, but Lost Arts only affect your own troops. The Dragon Art - Protector - would work on any troops in the castle, but not - Dragon Scales - since that is for your troops only. That's something that can be checked since you can test with it activated and not activated.
Ahh perfect! Now what I'm trying to grasp is why the 3.7m turns into 2.7m when my friend clicks Return for my units that I had sent? My guess is that Stormfall hides what I've discovered in my Lost Arts from other players? The 40% bonuses seem to be completely gone from the troops he has not researched to the same level as myself yet, for example I have up to griffons 40%, however he is still working on barbarians so everything above those units do not appear to have any Lost Art bonus when he showed me a screenshot of Returning my troops
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Lady Nerium KT-S2
8 April, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC
I'd have to research it, but it's possible it's like the troop stats - it looks at the base value of the troops, not the bonus' from research or multipliers on legendaries?
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wlilko
8 April, 2016, 7:33 PM UTC

Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:


I'd have to research it, but it's possible it's like the troop stats - it looks at the base value of the troops, not the bonus' from research or multipliers on legendaries?

Potentially, he had archers researched and the archers I sent him, when he sent them back they were not given a basic level 1 defence ranking but actually had his lost arts show up for the archers.

An example of what I've been stating can be seen with these griffons: http://prntscr.com/aptmbt  . This is what I sent to him, and this is what came back from his end http://prntscr.com/aptn1j . If you look there is no lost art at all influencing the griffons defence when you return an allys troops, I hope this somewhat explained what was confusing me

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Lady Nerium KT-S2
8 April, 2016, 8:50 PM UTC
The stats that matter is what is shown when you send them, so it may just be a problem with the way they are displayed.
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Gadheras
8 April, 2016, 9:16 PM UTC

Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:


The stats that matter is what is shown when you send them, so it may just be a problem with the way they are displayed.

Because of the server hamsters -)


Imagine you have double digit number of players defending you, and everyone was fully visible to you with their their full stats. Probably much less strain on the servers to just have them show base stats for you.



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