Alts Discussion

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djmoody
30 March, 2016, 9:34 PM UTC

Always a seemingly hot topic. Worth some exploration, see what people's views are. Appreciate they are banned by the rules but the rules aren't enforced but putting all that aside what do you personally think about them?


I'll throw some simple starters out there to get the thing going.


Pros:

- Allows people to participate more in the game (10 raids, 10 BG's can be a bit limiting)

- Enables spying which seems a valid piece of the meta game for a strategy war game

- You can only really build a decent army on an alt with hard work (you still have raid, build etc). So the advantage isn't so much from having the alt it's from spending more time in game. Is that so bad?


Cons:

- Against the rules (although not enforced)

- Can be abused by the more unscrupulous (everyone has had lvl 20's and 30's attacking them just to wear down their castles)

- Clutter the game up


What do you think?

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jumy
30 March, 2016, 10:29 PM UTC

1 should not have contact with other castles

2 slip through the game, when you have 5-6 on your side and keep farm for resources you realize, you need good raid them even 5k is fine but hurting other

3 weekly rank is a fake rank, abuse and gains (plarium reward you for this), hurting others


anyway, alts are 90% of the problems in this game, no response by Plarium tells all

The truth hurts
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roadstar Pitbull
31 March, 2016, 1:54 AM UTC
jumy said:



anyway, alts are 90% of the problems in this game, no response by Plarium tells all

Pretty well sums it up.
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Gadheras
31 March, 2016, 6:36 AM UTC

roadstar Pitbull said:


jumy said:




anyway, alts are 90% of the problems in this game, no response by Plarium tells all

Pretty well sums it up.


It turned into a everyone does it. Some does it more than others (way more than others), because there never been any consequence of having them.


If you start look at leadership in guilds around the game, you will see its very common they sit on a lot of accounts. Not necessary alts they created, but players that left the game, gave away their account (Probably an awfull lot of work to keep track of all and growing them though).


Some use alts for infiltration and spying, others for scroll aid, resources and so on, then there is those that have several alts to boost them in tournaments with staged fights and so on.


As I see it the problem is not so much the alts, as all the bots out there. Alts is in one way or the other played and more or less active. Biggest problem is;


a) bots. They don't care if you raid them siege them or whatever, they just sitting there being used as "easy raids". The most you can hope for is some angry mail from a guy that use them as fife when you raid one. bots lessen the need for player interaction, which is bad.


b) dead and inactive castles. Pritty much the same as bots, they just play down interaction between players too.


My guess is, if you over night removed all alts in this game, you would destroy quite a few of the top leagues in the process.  Several times when we raised def for members in the league, we been told that the attacker is the alt of so and so person in the attacking league. If such is common knowledge within leagues in this game, its pritty much a given that Plarium is turning the blind side to it. 

Would be better if they just allowed the use of alts to help increase player interation in the game. Then focus on remove bots and inactive castles. Put inactive castles in limbo state, and just re-assign them some random lot when they get active again.



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djmoody
1 April, 2016, 1:54 AM UTC

roadstar Pitbull said:


jumy said:




anyway, alts are 90% of the problems in this game, no response by Plarium tells all

Pretty well sums it up.

Any chance you could explain why?


I'll start removing my short pros and cons list and adding people's comments as the thread picks up more feedback. I am hoping for a good discussion about the pros and cons.
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djmoody
1 April, 2016, 2:00 AM UTC

Gadheras said:


Some use alts for infiltration and spying, others for scroll aid, resources and so on, then there is those that have several alts to boost them in tournaments with staged fights and so on.

I personally don't see a huge amount wrong with that. Spying is part of the meta game. It would be a lesser game without it, with far less strategy.

One of the things that separates a good leagues from OK ones is the effort to build an info network and be aware of what people are doing. This can come from building relationships and talking to people a lot but there is a lot of info that could only be obtained directly from spying. 

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jumy
1 April, 2016, 2:13 AM UTC

raids limit is evade, but not only, he with other 10 alts raid my farm, he make trap in other castle... we can go on 

1 players vs other 1 with 10 castle, make you conclusion


alts are used without interest, a war like in real life, you do for profit

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