Attention, Lords and Ladies! Read carefully!

24 Replies
Sergey Kryvorotchenko
Community Manager
25 March, 2016, 9:15 AM UTC

Many of you may have noticed that extinguishing the remaining orcs at the Battlegrounds (the ones you had attempted to raid/defend) after the update resulted in receiving a fairly small reward.

Let us look into what happened.

1. There was an error with the mini payout on the Battlegrounds. After the fix, the payout you get from a Battleground you have once attempted to raid/defend will be different from what it was before.

2. If you were to get a big payout from a Battleground, you will still get it.

3. Since the logic behind the payout system remains intact, the change will not affect the payout you will get on the Battlegrounds you attempt to raid/defend for the first time.

4.This does not apply to Saga Quests. They will remain intact.

It is important to remember that the payouts depend on the Unit losses you incur, so receiving a mini payout brings you closer to the desired reward!

As you can see, the situation is not as critical as it may have seemed.

Players who scouted Battlegrounds prior to the update will not see any difference in the payouts. Players that have attempted to raid/defend Battlegrounds but failed might have received a slightly smaller reward. It does NOT apply to players who were supposed to receive a big reward - they did get their rewards.

Important!

1. All the Units you lost count toward the payout you will get from the next Battlegrounds.

2. All the mini payouts you will get from the ‘fresh’ Battlegrounds in the future will remain the same.

Those Lords and Ladies that have mastered the art of battling Battlegrounds have noticed that the logic behind the Battleground system did not change. All the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years is still valuable.

Lords and Ladies, I encourage you to share your knowledge and expertise with less experienced players so everyone can get the desired outcome on the Battlegrounds and progress in the game! Good luck!

Please share your thoughts in the Comments under this post. Do not create any other posts related to Battlegrounds . Thank you.

Plarium Community Manager Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Plarium_Support
UTC +2:00
Arkenstar
28 March, 2016, 5:53 PM UTC
I don't understand you. So what you are saying is that there was an error, its been fixed, and that nothing has changed?
UTC +4:00
djmoody
28 March, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC
Arkenstar said:

I don't understand you. So what you are saying is that there was an error, its been fixed, and that nothing has changed?
It's not you - it just isn't clear.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
UTC +0:00
Sergey Kryvorotchenko
Community Manager
29 March, 2016, 9:42 AM UTC
Arkenstar said:

I don't understand you. So what you are saying is that there was an error, its been fixed, and that nothing has changed?
The error could influence the game in the future, but since we found it and fixed, you may continue hitting the Battlegrounds, my Lord.
Plarium Community Manager Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Plarium_Support
UTC +2:00
mrfreezzzz
29 March, 2016, 9:50 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Arkenstar said:


I don't understand you. So what you are saying is that there was an error, its been fixed, and that nothing has changed?
It's not you - it just isn't clear.

so very true. the art of not saying things in a clear and simple manner.

i'd rather see the "my lord..." act dropped, and instead a straight-to-the-point communication. 

something like "as of the 26th of march, bgs mechanices have been bugged. but it has been fixed on the 28th and all should be back now to how it was before the bug" 
UTC +1:00
Mehnslayer
29 March, 2016, 9:55 AM UTC
mrfreezzzz said:

djmoody said:


Arkenstar said:


I don't understand you. So what you are saying is that there was an error, its been fixed, and that nothing has changed?
It's not you - it just isn't clear.

so very true. the art of not saying things in a clear and simple manner.

i'd rather see the "my lord..." act dropped, and instead a straight-to-the-point communication. 

something like "as of the 26th of march, bgs mechanices have been bugged. but it has been fixed on the 28th and all should be back now to how it was before the bug" 
Agreed, you should see how in-depth they get into the whole roleplay theme in the pirates forum, I can't even comphrend half of it
E 'n la sua volontade è nostra pace
UTC +11:00
Jezebel
29 March, 2016, 12:20 PM UTC

http://prntscr.com/alibyi


total cost to do that battleground 646 archers, 14 huntress, 7 wardens, 7 arbalester, 7 bear hunters


cost in resources

52, 379 gold

21, 900 iron

15, 290 food


reward based on resources

11, 840 gold

 9, 250 iron

 8, 830 food


why would any lower level player spend all that time and waste all their resources just to be disappointed with the end result


i can only imagine what it would cost me to do my high level battle grounds now


someone else can do the math and figure out what the "tax" percentage was on that its apparent that battle grounds are built to eat troops and not worth playing at all any more

UTC +0:00
jumy
29 March, 2016, 1:02 PM UTC

i think the rest goes into the bank.... when you get to fill it "should" payout


but only my personal opinion without feedback


nice addition, when you finish the bg-quests you have the ability to reset bank and bg to lv1 for restart (only normal bg), now is make another castle.....

The truth hurts
UTC +12:00
Jezebel
29 March, 2016, 2:06 PM UTC
jumy said:

i think the rest goes into the bank.... when you get to fill it "should" payout


but only my personal opinion without feedback


nice addition, when you finish the bg-quests you have the ability to reset bank and bg to lv1 for restart (only normal bg), now is make another castle.....

That player had several yellowed battle grounds that did not pay anything so the bank was not cleared after 6 - 8 bg.
UTC +0:00
mrfreezzzz
29 March, 2016, 2:17 PM UTC

for what it's worth, and according to some guy who allegedly knows things from the inside, you have to hit a fresh bg to get some decent rewards. 

i just did that, cleaned up a lvl37 and 38, won 250wyvs, 40griffs and 4 runes. net loss 60k, mostly cannon fodder.
UTC +1:00
Sergey Kryvorotchenko
Community Manager
30 March, 2016, 8:50 AM UTC
mrfreezzzz said:

for what it's worth, and according to some guy who allegedly knows things from the inside, you have to hit a fresh bg to get some decent rewards. 

i just did that, cleaned up a lvl37 and 38, won 250wyvs, 40griffs and 4 runes. net loss 60k, mostly cannon fodder.
Exactly, my Lord. All new Battlegrounds will be given a good reward. The error may affect only those Battlegrounds that you started to destroy before the error was fixed and destroyed them after this fix. But you shouldn't worry about this, since you will get everything that you earned in your future payouts.
Plarium Community Manager Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Plarium_Support
UTC +2:00
jumy
30 March, 2016, 9:36 AM UTC

Aleksandra Miroshyna said:



Exactly, my Lord. All new Battlegrounds will be given a good reward. The error may affect only those Battlegrounds that you started to destroy before the error was fixed and destroyed them after this fix. But you shouldn't worry about this, since you will get everything that you earned in your future payouts.

earned in future payouts..... when one puts 20 million needed months, not a good behavior by Plarium

The truth hurts
UTC +12:00
Snowgoon
1 April, 2016, 7:26 PM UTC

Get Guaranteed Rewards at Battlegrounds!

7 July, 2015, 4:46 PM UTC

Lord Oberon said:

The Battleground payout algorithm has also been altered. Those who show up consistently for battle with courage in their hearts shall consistently be rewarded! Henceforth, you may expect a guaranteed reward every time you clear a Battleground, rather than the hit-or-miss system previously in place! While this means fewer giant rewards, it ensures you'll never ride away from a Battleground victorious but empty-handed.
Fight, my Lords, for victory is close at hand!
Lord Oberon
Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall

I have just completed these new battlegrounds, but have returned empty handed.


http://prntscr.com/amwsb8

http://prntscr.com/amwiy7

http://prntscr.com/amwkli

http://prntscr.com/amwmyb

http://prntscr.com/amwoqr

http://prntscr.com/amwq8u

Your words are hollow. Your integrity lost. Your promises broken

I have been sending exactly the same 101 different units to battlegrounds for months, but this is the first time that I have ever received zero rewards from any battleground. Where are my guaranteed rewards from every battleground?


Your guarantee is worthless


Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
UTC +0:00
Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
4 April, 2016, 8:59 AM UTC

Tony Hobson said:


I have just completed these new battlegrounds, but have returned empty handed.


http://prntscr.com/amwsb8

http://prntscr.com/amwiy7

http://prntscr.com/amwkli

http://prntscr.com/amwmyb

http://prntscr.com/amwoqr

http://prntscr.com/amwq8u

Your words are hollow. Your integrity lost. Your promises broken

I have been sending exactly the same 101 different units to battlegrounds for months, but this is the first time that I have ever received zero rewards from any battleground. Where are my guaranteed rewards from every battleground?


Your guarantee is worthless


Greetings. You have completed low-level Battlegrounds with zero losses. All payouts depend on your losses as it's stated in the start post.

So you need to loose something in order to get any reward.
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
UTC +2:00
Mehnslayer
4 April, 2016, 9:07 AM UTC
Alyona, SF was different to SI and SI use to have this system, SF did not... Even when losing nothing on BGs we would get a small payout
E 'n la sua volontade è nostra pace
UTC +11:00
Inaginni
4 April, 2016, 3:30 PM UTC
Mehnslayer said:

Alyona, SF was different to SI and SI use to have this system, SF did not... Even when losing nothing on BGs we would get a small payout
It looks like they might have brought the bgs closer to what they were in the past (about a year ago now). Not sure if they act with the same 90-140% resource reward span though.
UTC +0:00
Juglar del Viento
Moderator
4 April, 2016, 4:09 PM UTC

Tony Hobson said:


Get Guaranteed Rewards at Battlegrounds!

7 July, 2015, 4:46 PM UTC

Lord Oberon said:

The Battleground payout algorithm has also been altered. Those who show up consistently for battle with courage in their hearts shall consistently be rewarded! Henceforth, you may expect a guaranteed reward every time you clear a Battleground, rather than the hit-or-miss system previously in place! While this means fewer giant rewards, it ensures you'll never ride away from a Battleground victorious but empty-handed.
Fight, my Lords, for victory is close at hand!
Lord Oberon
Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall

I have just completed these new battlegrounds, but have returned empty handed.


http://prntscr.com/amwsb8

http://prntscr.com/amwiy7

http://prntscr.com/amwkli

http://prntscr.com/amwmyb

http://prntscr.com/amwoqr

http://prntscr.com/amwq8u

Your words are hollow. Your integrity lost. Your promises broken

I have been sending exactly the same 101 different units to battlegrounds for months, but this is the first time that I have ever received zero rewards from any battleground. Where are my guaranteed rewards from every battleground?


Your guarantee is worthless


Dear Lords and Ladys

As far i can be able to read and understood, the supersmall payouts or no payouts in that case of above means they are yellowed before the update and finished after the update. Ok if im not wrong you are going to receive this ridiculous payouts for those bgs yellowed before the update and fix and if your bank is not ready for the payout.

Is this a problem ???? i dont think so...as all you know im not such a master of bgs as some members of this forum but i always try to help.

for me... its better not getting any of these 2 types of payouts: ridicoulous payouts or small payouts.

why?? dont you remember your loved and always wanted back again bg old system ??. this is almost the same. if you receive a ridiculous payout your bank is not so much affected.

So, once you finish all your yellowed bgs u did before the update and fix you will stop to receive the laughing payouts and you will be again priced with the small 10% payout....i hope.

another question...its a super nosense (at least for me) doing or finishing bgs with 0 losses. even if you get the 10%... you loose nothing and get the 10% every bg goes you to be on negative in your bank. You finish 20 bgs yellowed with 0 loosess and gaining troops for 2M of resources means your bank is -2M. so you are going to do a hard hard work for a real big payout next time.

by the way...bgs level 17 the 10% is so poor that really its better getting no troops.

Regards
Resistance Is Futile
UTC +1:00
jumy
4 April, 2016, 4:38 PM UTC

Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords and Ladys

As far i can be able to read and understood, the supersmall payouts or no payouts in that case of above means they are yellowed before the update and finished after the update. Ok if im not wrong you are going to receive this ridiculous payouts for those bgs yellowed before the update and fix and if your bank is not ready for the payout.

Is this a problem ???? i dont think so...as all you know im not such a master of bgs as some members of this forum but i always try to help.

for me... its better not getting any of these 2 types of payouts: ridicoulous payouts or small payouts.

why?? dont you remember your loved and always wanted back again bg old system ??. this is almost the same. if you receive a ridiculous payout your bank is not so much affected.

So, once you finish all your yellowed bgs u did before the update and fix you will stop to receive the laughing payouts and you will be again priced with the small 10% payout....i hope.

another question...its a super nosense (at least for me) doing or finishing bgs with 0 losses. even if you get the 10%... you loose nothing and get the 10% every bg goes you to be on negative in your bank. You finish 20 bgs yellowed with 0 loosess and gaining troops for 2M of resources means your bank is -2M. so you are going to do a hard hard work for a real big payout next time.

by the way...bgs level 17 the 10% is so poor that really its better getting no troops.

Regards

but he gain FOR FREE in tournaments, this proves the stupidity of the changes

The truth hurts
UTC +12:00
Gadheras
4 April, 2016, 4:39 PM UTC

@ JUGLAR 


there was players  getting caught in this that had a bunch of YL bg's they didn't get any out of, and their lowest BG was in 87 they have to build troops to complete.


Maybe the new system is better, but for the players that got caught in the middle got really screwed in all this. You should think Plarium could spawn a lower level BG that could payout the banked resources as a solution.



UTC +2:00
Snowgoon
4 April, 2016, 4:48 PM UTC

Inaginni said:


Mehnslayer said:


Alyona, SF was different to SI and SI use to have this system, SF did not... Even when losing nothing on BGs we would get a small payout
It looks like they might have brought the bgs closer to what they were in the past (about a year ago now). Not sure if they act with the same 90-140% resource reward span though.

They have not brought bg closer to what they were. They have stated many times that they will never do this, even tho everyone hates the new system. If you want the old system then you need to play the Pirate game, where they have refused to change anything.

The only reason this was added last July was to make sure that everyone would get fewer giant rewards



Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
UTC +0:00
1719985 users registered; 42194 topics; 270360 posts; our newest member:bdqibh