Battleground Change

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djmoody
22 March, 2016, 8:16 PM UTC

Are Plarium going to announce the major change to BG mechanics?

Announced all the other pointless sapphire only updates but not the one update that actually matters apparently........
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
22 March, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC

Lord Djmoody

As far i know i havent heared anything about changing the bg mechanics. i will pay attention if it happens but i doubt.

Regards
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djmoody
22 March, 2016, 9:23 PM UTC

10% guaranteed payout is gone. Just hit any low level BG you have or any yellow bar.

You got info about the upcoming change as a moderator, maybe you just missed the mail (another huge advantage provided to the randomly picked forum moderator team that doesn't represent any of the community in the version of the game I play)
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
23 March, 2016, 11:03 AM UTC

I think what has changed is  the way you get that small payout of 10% but be sure that the mechanics of bgs have not change.

i though the goal was get the big payout of the bg and think u are the master of it. so if you now get even small payouts better for the big payout to the moment you have to bank less than if you get the 10%

hope this can help you to readapt your bg method and sure u still will get a real huge payouts from bgs.


PS: about the rest of ur oppinions im not going to argue with you. If there are any kind of problems about me, please refer them to admins.


Regards and happy marennons haunting

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Mehnslayer
23 March, 2016, 11:17 AM UTC

DJ, this is in no way an issue with Juglar, since the recent change all moderators lost a massive amount of information, and since someone leaked information about a week ago even less is told to them.... Moderators are just Plarium's punching bags now....I pointed out like 6 different things that got released under the radar with this update.

I am still friends with most of the Facebook admins, and non of them knew about this change and none of them knew about the recent sapphire bug, this falls entirely on Plarium

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djmoody
23 March, 2016, 1:45 PM UTC

Not that this is the point of the thread but I know that moderators got told about this in advance (maybe just not all moderators, it wasn't very well written so you simply might not have realised what the implications were).

Jugular - absolute nothing wrong with your forum administration. Menhslayer has also taken comments I have made personally. You both are active, have a passion for the game and moderate well.

My issue is 100% with how Plarium manage the moderator program.

1) NO ONE should get advanced notice of updates. The info will leak and the lucky few it's shared with can get a massive and unfair advantage out of it (e.g. how some leagues new about the last beacons drops and were able to prepare and be online for them)

2) There is a huge difference between a good forum moderator and someone who has the right knowledge skills and experience to provide quality feedback on game developements. Plarium confused the 2 roles. In doing so they game the moderators way to much say in how the game developers. 

3) Against the back drop of point 2 the players that run this game for Plarium and provide virtually all the game content get absolutely no say. They have no method of input to Plarium (given our forum suggestions have bee ignored for 6 months). When random people get to do Skype calls live with Plarium staff and the most influential and knowledgable people in the game have zero input there is a major problem.

4) There is no representation for this version of the game I play, given you play facebook, Mehnslayer plays a different version also and then there are a couple of non English speaking mod. Not cool that a whole version of the game gets no representation

It not like I haven't made these points before but they are ignored.

They are shocking. Terrible game management. Ridiculously unfair. But Plarium doesn't care too busy trying to cash cow money as they sink the game before Flash ends I suspect.

Btw the 10% removal is probably because of me (or similar me's on other versions of the game). Its how I helped people to add 50m army to their account. So the 10% change is a massive change to BG's. We weren't supposed to leech that much free troops out of the BG's but they made the stupid update. Within 10 seconds of reading the update I new how to profit from it so don't know how they allowed it to get through design and testing. But hey they implemented it so we just reacted to the game infront of us.

But given the 10% introduction warranted a massive fanfare with announcement posts, removing it should have warranted some announcement also. But BG's aren't there as content (to be able to earn anything out of them) they are there drain people's armies and such sapphires out of them. The fact a small number of players managed to play them for uber profit for a few months was a pleasant poke in the eye for them. 
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Mehnslayer
23 March, 2016, 2:00 PM UTC

https://www.facebook.com/groups/402686013133425/permalink/988272477908106/

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djmoody
23 March, 2016, 2:01 PM UTC
Says I have to log into Facebook to read. I don't use Facebook - any chance of a copy and paste.
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Mehnslayer
23 March, 2016, 2:59 PM UTC

Aleksandra Miroshyna

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Attention, Lords and Ladies! Read carefully!

Many of you may have noticed that extinguishing the remaining orcs at the Battlegrounds (the ones you had attempted to raid/defend) after the update resulted in receiving a fairly small reward.

Let us look into what happened.

1. There was an error with the mini payout on the Battlegrounds. After the fix, the payout you get from a Battleground you have once attempted to raid/defend will be different from what it was before.

2. If you were to get a big payout from a Battleground, you will still get it.

3. Since the logic behind the payout system remains intact, the change will not affect the payout you will get on the Battlegrounds you attempt to raid/defend for the first time.

It is important to remember that the payouts depend on the Unit losses you incur, so receiving a mini payout brings you closer to the desired reward!

As you can see, the situation is not as critical as it may have seemed.

Players who scouted Battlegrounds prior to the update will not see any difference in the payouts. Players that have attempted to raid/defend Battlegrounds but failed might have received a slightly smaller reward. It does NOT apply to players who were supposed to receive a big reward - they did get their rewards.

Important!

1. All the Units you lost count toward the payout you will get from the next Battlegrounds.

2. All the mini payouts you will get from the ‘fresh’ Battlegrounds in the future will remain the same.

Those Lords and Ladies that have mastered the art of battling Battlegrounds have noticed that the logic behind the Battleground system did not change. All the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years is still valuable.

This does not apply to Saga Quests. They will remain intact.

Lords and Ladies, I encourage you to share your knowledge and expertise with less experienced players so everyone can get the desired outcome on the Battlegrounds and progress in the game! Good luck!

Please share your thoughts in the Comments under this post. Do not create any other posts related to Battlegrounds . Thank you.

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test
23 March, 2016, 3:44 PM UTC

Hey look, Plarium "fixed" BG's:  http://prntscr.com/aiz8e0

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jumy
23 March, 2016, 4:09 PM UTC

awesome 

 i have filled my bank before update, new found a surprise? am terrified knowing work plarium brrrrr
Dear moderators, have all my support (send a ticket )  but plarium deceives people with trap and mathematical rules inexistent 

I agree with with DJMOODY  100% + 20%= xy 1.25.5,45 xjx  (plarium formula)/  simple 100% for real formula

The truth hurts
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IronApex Turok
24 March, 2016, 9:00 AM UTC

im surprised we are even getting updates at all.  my guess is that the financial side of the game is crashing. they are tweaking it trying to get better saphire sales. and  will soon pull the plug if sales dont increase.



we should all probably be shopping for a new game.  ive played games before where we all log in one day and there is a message on the screen saying support has ended for this game, sorry for the inconvenience.  bye bye tokens/saphires/coins etc.
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Gadheras
24 March, 2016, 10:50 AM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


im surprised we are even getting updates at all.  my guess is that the financial side of the game is crashing. they are tweaking it trying to get better saphire sales. and  will soon pull the plug if sales dont increase.



we should all probably be shopping for a new game.  ive played games before where we all log in one day and there is a message on the screen saying support has ended for this game, sorry for the inconvenience.  bye bye tokens/saphires/coins etc.

Players would be inclined to spend if they feelt they get their moneys worth. This game got such a insane focus on spending I havent seen in any other game out there I played and tried a lot. I thought neverwinter was greed driven but that was nothing om comparsion and at least offered a grind aspect.


Its sad to see because the core concept of this game is nice, but the execution and direction is driving players away :( If you bleed players because the focus is to heavy on spending, then introduce even more things to spend on... doesn't make sense.


I seen whales in this game spend houndreds of USD a month, its crazy. Hardly the norm for the average player but seems to be the ones Plarium making this game for.
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Sergey Kryvorotchenko
Community Manager
25 March, 2016, 9:27 AM UTC

Lords and Ladies, the same information appeared in our forum. I apologize that it wasn't posted before http://forum.plarium.com/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-discussion/topics/attention--lords-and-ladies--read-carefully-/


Please note that the overall mechanics of the Batltegrounds stays the same and you will receive what you already put into your banks. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to help you. 

Plarium Community Manager Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Plarium_Support
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DoomieUK
25 March, 2016, 1:20 PM UTC

Plarium Team,


Why do you confuse loyal players when completing Battlegrounds. 


I have seen two main BGs players ask us to stop doing BGs until further notice. This is my suggestion why would I put hard earned troops into a system that doesn't reward me with extras.


Get the mechanics in order or I would like other players of this game to place their tickets of complaint.


Heres my issue Plarium a lvl 51 Bgs


http://prntscr.com/ajttma


The reward which i was not happy with


http://prntscr.com/ajtu3r




Doomie

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Sleeve
25 March, 2016, 2:08 PM UTC

hey, 



doomi did you had befor the lvl 51 bg a large payout or 2 - 3 bg before ?  


if it was so it looks normal to me.. all the bg players know they dont get any profit out of bgs so far you have to pay tax resources on every reward.. swap small to big units and some benefits from the events that was it


gz Sleeve 
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DoomieUK
26 March, 2016, 7:38 AM UTC

Sleeve said:


hey, 



doomi did you had befor the lvl 51 bg a large payout or 2 - 3 bg before ?  


if it was so it looks normal to me.. all the bg players know they dont get any profit out of bgs so far you have to pay tax resources on every reward.. swap small to big units and some benefits from the events that was it


gz Sleeve 

Hi Sleeve,


I can't recall any good payouts from BGs over the last few months. That is to say when I have done BGs I have thought this was worth doing. But I hope Plarium will change how I think and make me more of a BG player.


Doomie




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