Battlegrounds Spreadsheet

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viper_22664
26 December, 2015, 10:22 PM UTC

OK.....I just thought of another analogy which, hopefully, you may prefer. How would you like going to the grocery store & not getting a receipt for the groceries you just bought??


But, I think the bank analogy is still better because of the "Running Balance" feature with ALL Bank & Credit Accounts.


Oh, I forgot to mention to EVERYONE earlier, if you do share my view & "Like" my previous reply, then don't forget to "Like" Lord DEVNULLICUS's post, along with all of the other  valuable, informative posts in this Forum, for shareing their hard earned knowledge. I for one greatly appreciate your painstaking efforts. I hope you all get some sort of reward, (like free saphires at least) for your efforts.

Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
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Mehnslayer
26 December, 2015, 10:30 PM UTC
viper_22664 said:

OK.....I just thought of another analogy which, hopefully, you may prefer. How would you like going to the grocery store & not getting a receipt for the groceries you just bought??


But, I think the bank analogy is still better because of the "Running Balance" feature with ALL Bank & Credit Accounts.


Oh, I forgot to mention to EVERYONE earlier, if you do share my view & "Like" my previous reply, then don't forget to "Like" Lord DEVNULLICUS's post, along with all of the other  valuable, informative posts in this Forum, for shareing their hard earned knowledge. I for one greatly appreciate your painstaking efforts. I hope you all get some sort of reward, (like free saphires at least) for your efforts.


E 'n la sua volontade è nostra pace
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BiohazarD
Moderator
27 December, 2015, 6:03 AM UTC

viper_22664 said:


OK.....I just thought of another analogy which, hopefully, you may prefer. How would you like going to the grocery store & not getting a receipt for the groceries you just bought??


But, I think the bank analogy is still better because of the "Running Balance" feature with ALL Bank & Credit Accounts.


Oh, I forgot to mention to EVERYONE earlier, if you do share my view & "Like" my previous reply, then don't forget to "Like" Lord DEVNULLICUS's post, along with all of the other  valuable, informative posts in this Forum, for shareing their hard earned knowledge. I for one greatly appreciate your painstaking efforts. I hope you all get some sort of reward, (like free saphires at least) for your efforts.

Fishing for likes is sad...

Most good leagues train their members in how to do bgs properly, so if you're having trouble figuring it out you could try joining a top league. 
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shewuvsyou
27 December, 2015, 11:56 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:


viper_22664 said:


OK.....I just thought of another analogy which, hopefully, you may prefer. How would you like going to the grocery store & not getting a receipt for the groceries you just bought??


But, I think the bank analogy is still better because of the "Running Balance" feature with ALL Bank & Credit Accounts.


Oh, I forgot to mention to EVERYONE earlier, if you do share my view & "Like" my previous reply, then don't forget to "Like" Lord DEVNULLICUS's post, along with all of the other  valuable, informative posts in this Forum, for shareing their hard earned knowledge. I for one greatly appreciate your painstaking efforts. I hope you all get some sort of reward, (like free saphires at least) for your efforts.

Fishing for likes is sad...  

I don't see what's wrong with it? They're not recorded, nor is there a poll system in place...

I'll drown when I see you.
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viper_22664
27 December, 2015, 7:02 PM UTC
I'm sorry you feel that way Lord Biohazard. It is not meant that way. It is intended as Lord Shewuvsyou said, simply a poll to see if more people would prefer to see, basically, a BG Bank Statement added to the game or not.
Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
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Mehnslayer
27 December, 2015, 11:04 PM UTC
Lord Juglar (moderator) has put forward the suggestion to the community managers Viper and we will see what happens.
E 'n la sua volontade è nostra pace
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viper_22664
28 December, 2015, 5:31 AM UTC
That sounds great Mehnslayer. That's all I can ask for. Thanks for keeping me posted.
Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
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Lord Oberon
Administrator
28 December, 2015, 10:08 AM UTC
You are supposed to LEARN how BG's work. Game mechanics are supposed to be hidden providing you the challenge of working them out.

I fully agree with that and this is how it meant to be. The Battlegrounds is one of the toughest aspects of the game and figuring them out is a real challenge. Even the calculator posted here isn't perfect. There are many materials available online about how one should interact with Battlegrounds and they are all part of the game. Players who created them enjoyed creating them and this is what matters. If the information was easily available, they wouldn't have the pleasure of sharing something they believe to be valuable information with others. 

Oberon, Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall
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viper_22664
28 December, 2015, 7:24 PM UTC
So this sounds like a "No" on the likelihood on ever seeing a BG Bank Statement in the game. Is that correct???
Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
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Lord Oberon
Administrator
29 December, 2015, 9:28 AM UTC
So far we see no reasons to do it, so it's a "No" at least for the time being, my Lord.
Oberon, Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall
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viper_22664
29 December, 2015, 4:44 PM UTC

I'm sure many of you will be happy to hear that this will be my last post. My room mate & I will be deleting both of our accounts. We regret doing this & have enjoyed playing the game. But, I feel compelled to make 1 final point before I go. (You didn't think Id go without speaking my piece, did you?)

I just don't get it?? What am I missing?? It seems like a no-brainer to me. First off, who on earth, in their right mind & with real life responsibilities, ENJOYS spending days upon weeks developing a calculator for a GAME??? A calculator, which in the end, only serves to drag out the process of completeing the daily list of BG's into an all day event. No, with this kind of resistance over something that, to me at  least, seems so basic & obvious, tells me that there must be a much deeper, unspoken reason for not wanting to make the game less time consuming & attract more players. But what is the real reason??

I don't believe it is the cost of implimentation. The mechanics are already in place. The only thing needed is to provide it to the player. Could it be, as I have previously read, that a BG Bank Statement would reveal how badly skewed BG's are for the big money player? I have personally noticed how badly the entire game is skewed towards the big money spenders.

Don't get me wrong, I understand you must be profitable to maintain this service & you should be rewarded for providing it. Early on in the game, I spent $20 for, what I felt, was the prvillage to play the game. I was even considering spending more because I did like the game. But, I have to ask myself, is it a better business model to appeal to the few big money players as opposed to the masses who will spend, say, $20 - $60?? Maybe it is. Attracting only a few big money players may mean you have fewer & smaller servers to maintain, thereby increasing your overall profits. Just remember, that if you don't grow by attracting new players, as oppossed to repelling them, you run the risk of dying.

This is only a game, after all. The majority of people who play these games do so for an hour or 2 of fun & relaxation, in a fair environment, without having to spend an enormous amount of money. Don't believe me? Just take a look around the map at the number of abandoned castles, deleted accounts & vacant lots. Well, as soon as we tie up a few loose ends with our leagus, you can add 2 more accounts to that number, as we can finally see, this is not the game for us.

Have fun & good luck.

Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
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devnullicus
29 December, 2015, 6:57 PM UTC

viper_22664 said:


First off, who on earth, in their right mind & with real life responsibilities, ENJOYS spending days upon weeks developing a calculator for a GAME???


Obviously, you don't understand the mindset of a programmer.  If I didn't enjoy making things like this, I wouldn't have done it.   I, like many programmers, enjoy problem solving, research, and the satisfaction of making something complicated less so by the process of automation.   Besides, programming something that is complicated puts me in that "zone" and is very peaceful for me.  I could have programmed ANYTHING to achieve that inner peace, but I like Stormfall, I was bored and saw a problem that needed automation to make my own life easier.  That's really all it takes to launch any programmer on a months-long quest.



If you ever want to know how the gods feel about money, simply look at who they choose to give it to [Caine Black Knife]
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djmoody
30 December, 2015, 2:46 AM UTC

I would go as far as to say "I only like complex things". I want a challenge.

One of the best things about this game is it is really simple. But actually within that simplicity are some hidden complexities. So its easy to play but its actually quite difficult to master. The mastery confers little advantages here and there but they build up to a reasonable advantage for the smarter player.

Personally I think that is a great game balance. You can play on any level you like but there is a reward for putting more effort in.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Lord Oberon
Administrator
30 December, 2015, 12:13 PM UTC

Well put, Lord DJMoody. Stormfall may seem casual and can attract casual players, but it's actually a hardcore and challenging game that requires dedication and effort. We at Plarium truly admire our top players and leagues for their persistence and loyalty to Stormfall. The amount of work some Stormfallers put into the game in incredible. 

who on earth, in their right mind & with real life responsibilities, ENJOYS spending days upon weeks developing a calculator for a GAME???

Everything is real life. And more people than you think, my Lord.And we are happy to provide them with the opportunity to utilize their problem solving abilities, while playing the game and having fun with their league mates.

Oberon, Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall
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donw4350
31 December, 2015, 3:38 PM UTC
I am new here and I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Don
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BiohazarD
Moderator
5 January, 2016, 12:01 AM UTC
donw4350 said:

I am new here and I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Then maybe you should try playing the game....
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Sifr
5 January, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC
Simplest way to do bg is yellowing/banking during exp tourney and finish em during bg tourney. Long term investment is long lol.
Fighter Sifr of Fellowship
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Rosconz
9 January, 2016, 10:46 PM UTC

A dumb ass question. I have Google Drive but haven't done much with it at all. How do I get the linked spreadsheet into my Drive? Is it just copy and paste or should there be a button somewhere that I'm not seeing?

Thanks for any help with this.


Rosco.

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Rosconz
10 January, 2016, 3:32 AM UTC

Okay. Ignore that first dumb question, I figured it out. 

Now the next dumb question. "You will have to authorize your copy to use the buttons. These buttons are necessary for the spreadsheet to work (sorry)"

How do I "authorize" my copy?

Again any help would be appreciated.

Rosco.



      
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devnullicus
18 January, 2016, 7:24 AM UTC

You definitely do not want to download to your local machine and load it in excel as the scripts will not work nor will many of the formulae.  The spreadsheet is only usable on Google Drive.   To do so, simply copy it to your own google drive (via drag drop, ctrl-c/ctrl-v, or however you normally copy files) and open up your copy.  It should ask you if you want to authorize scripts - just answer yes and you should be good to go.


If you ever want to know how the gods feel about money, simply look at who they choose to give it to [Caine Black Knife]
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