The reward system on Battlegrounds is now secure against attempts to obtain Units in an unfair way!

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Jun 23, 2016, 16:1606/23/16

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The reward system on Battlegrounds is now secure against attempts to obtain Units in an unfair way!

My Lords and Ladies, the reward system on Battlegrounds is now secure against attempts to obtain Units in an unfair way.

IMPORTANT: The following applies only to new Locations, i.e. the ones you have not engaged yet.

A few players have identified weaknesses in the Battleground mechanics and exploited them to gain significantly more Units than they were supposed to. Such actions negatively influence the game balance and are unfair to other players. To remedy the situation, we have slightly modified the Battleground mechanics.

Unfortunately, these modifications will also affect those players that engage Battlegrounds utilizing the following strategy:

- First, they almost defeat Balur at multiple Battlegrounds of different levels, i.e. there is a small number of Balur’s Units remaining at each one of them.

- Next, they engage Battlegrounds of higher levels, receiving a reward.

- Then, they finish all the remaining Battlegrounds.

This strategy may now be less effective.

These modifications will not influence those players that engage (and finish) the Battlegrounds one at time.

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Deleted

Jun 23, 2016, 18:1106/23/16

718

remove payouts and let's end

Nyduc

Jun 23, 2016, 18:2906/23/16

03/25/15

119

what happens with this significantly players who use this mechanic?

ur words sound like u self dont know exactly how this new mechanic works

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Jun 23, 2016, 18:3906/23/16

718

a program is programmed, then they invent that was not right but his team knew all and playing exploits him !! other fail

Drogar61

Jun 23, 2016, 19:3006/23/16

Jun 24, 2016, 20:21(edited)

06/22/14

448

Why such strategy was UNFAIR?

Are players still something from anyone? If someone filled bank with resources, no matter on which way, how it could be unfair if he later took what he could. If his account got negative sign at the end, for next payout he should to refill bank. So, it was on his risk.

On this way, again without any announcing, you put players with yellowed BGs in new problem. Again, and again.

After your last change I had to wait 4 months to repair my bank, and made any plan possible.

Is this change fair for the most of players?

Is old mechanic was unfair against Plarium because we didnt spend money for such style?

Just to compare, for you fair is when some players could make 100+ raids per week using sapphires, and when users spend his troops to make any plan to gain very little more (usually loose, but with some tournaments you can get some very little value), that is unfair.

And, I can't comment this how I really want because you have a 'God' rule in pocket. Bravo.

RightThingToDo 7B

Jun 23, 2016, 20:2206/23/16

Jun 23, 2016, 20:26(edited)

02/24/16

Now that it is patched anyone is willing to share how it worked?

robert

Jun 23, 2016, 21:2706/23/16

Jun 23, 2016, 22:49(edited)

05/20/16

where else are you going to get troops you send 3000 and get 95 back is an end it would seem this has been a strategy in a strategy game, go figure

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Jun 24, 2016, 06:5306/24/16

New system is just great. Great i tells ya! Did a number of BGs, and after all the dust had settled, i was 2million in troops lighter. Oh the fun... Great way to kill your own army. I´m done with BGs. Never gonna touch the damn thing again.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager

Jun 24, 2016, 07:1006/24/16

09/17/15

8278

FAQ:

1. Did you reset my bank again?

- No, we did not. We have never tampered with the bank since the day we first launched the game.

2. So, what shall I do now to get my big reward?

- You can fully defeat BGs now, always gaining something in return. If you used to leave BGs almost defeated, you will see that with the new strategy the big payout will come a bit later. The amount of troops won't change too much, and you are guaranteed to receive something from every defeated BG.

3. From now on. How should the banking system work ?

- The mechanics of payouts will work as it did before. You will still get big payouts, as you used to receive before.

4. Will my currently yellowed (touched) BGs be affected?

- No, they won't.

5. Did you change payouts/BGs strength?

- No, both: the possible size of your payout and the strength of BGs will remain the same.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager

Jun 24, 2016, 07:1106/24/16

09/17/15

8278

Drogar61 said:

On this way, again without any announcing, you put players with yellowed BGs in new problem.

Your current yellowed BGs won't be affected by the change.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager

Jun 24, 2016, 07:1206/24/16

09/17/15

8278

Guys, I understand your confusion due to lack of information. I have posted FAQ for you. Please read our answers. If you have any more questions, please ask. I will gladly give you as much information as I can.

Raymond

Jun 24, 2016, 08:1006/24/16

08/03/15

505

My lords, now your army will not have to face armies made up from Units obtained in an unfair way!

KING

Jun 24, 2016, 11:5806/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 10:57(edited)

01/26/15

488

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

FAQ:

1. Did you reset my bank again?
- No, we did not. We have never tampered with the bank since the day we first launched the game.

2. So, what shall I do now to get my big reward?
- You can fully defeat BGs now, always gaining something in return. If you used to leave BGs almost defeated, you will see that with the new strategy the big payout will come a bit later. The amount of troops won't change too much, and you are guaranteed to receive something from every defeated BG.

3. From now on. How should the banking system work ?
- The mechanics of payouts will work as it did before. You will still get big payouts, as you used to receive before.

4. Will my currently yellowed (touched) BGs be affected?
- No, they won't.

5. Did you change payouts/BGs strength?
- No, both: the possible size of your payout and the strength of BGs will remain the same.

on point 2. you said "wont change to much"

My question is (and i would like a simple Yes or no answer please)

- is the change going to give us a better net payout THEN BEFORE ??? (Yes or No)

Just to be clear i do know it depends on a lot BUT .... you can always tell if it would be better or worse then before so please just a Yes or No answer

No, payouts will remain the same as they were before.

Carol Aileen

Jun 24, 2016, 12:4606/24/16

02/21/16

126

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Drogar61 said:

On this way, again without any announcing, you put players with yellowed BGs in new problem.
Your current yellowed BGs won't be affected by the change.

Carol Aileen

Jun 24, 2016, 12:4906/24/16

02/21/16

126

Great to hear That you have again ruined the game for so many your greed is self evident. I guess it's time to breack out the old nintendo

(RL)_Bohara AOC

Jun 24, 2016, 13:4806/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 10:59(edited)

07/12/14

the system was not unfair, it worked just fine.

the only people who would think it to be unfair are those

who lack the inteligence to understand it.

evry change you make to this game makes me and many others

less interested in playing.

fixing something that isant broken is a wate of time and the money we give you.

put less effort into pointless changes and just make it run properly.

that would be great.

The strategy itself wasn't an issue. There were some players who were using this strategy to cheat the system. There are certain formulas and a certain way how it should work. We have just eliminated the vulnerability in the system.

Deleted

Jun 24, 2016, 14:0306/24/16

Whilst I will wait to see what happens to the payouts, the ability to see the units in offensive battlegrounds is a definite plus.

Thankyou!

LadyDragon

Jun 24, 2016, 15:1206/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 11:00(edited)

04/19/14

I would like to see our bank. i would like to know just how much I have to kill before I can get a payout. So far they are just crumbs

We will never show bank value to our players. This information is classified. BGs were designed to be a secret, and our players always had to figure them out on their own.

JEZEBEL

Jun 24, 2016, 19:4606/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 11:05(edited)

12/18/14

1835

So what exactly are the changes? What is considered an unfair advantage? I raided for resources and built troops over time to complete battlegrounds in order to get a decent payout. No how do i refill my bank? I am at a high negative, so yellowing bg over time used to be the best way for me to refill my bank, so now you are saying I can't do that any longer and have to complete a battle ground at a higher loss and take longer to fill my bank as the negative reward will now also increase my banked negative. Two steps forward and one step back is how its going to go.

Unfortunately, the exact information is classified. We gave you all information we can in the start post. There was a vulnerability in the system and some players were trying to cheat BGs. We have removed such opportunity. Unfortunately, we were unable to do it without some changes.

Kathleen

Jun 24, 2016, 19:4606/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 11:05(edited)

02/26/16

The new system does not work as advertised. I have completed a number of BG's without receiving troops as a reward.

It's possible only if you had zero losses on them.

Drogar61

Jun 24, 2016, 19:5406/24/16

Jun 27, 2016, 11:09(edited)

06/22/14

448

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Drogar61 said:

On this way, again without any announcing, you put players with yellowed BGs in new problem.
Your current yellowed BGs won't be affected by the change.

From scond (previos) post:

If you used to leave BGs almost defeated, you will see that with the new strategy the big payout will come a bit later.

This as a change that will affect me! Why? If I had plan to collect payout from some castle and yellowed some another, maybe I don't have extra troops to sacrifice in more BGs, and this change just push me in that direction. Again, change which push us on market to buy new troops.

So, this will affect my game, at least.

I will repeat question: Why old way was unfair?

I paid what you wanted and when time will come I want my payout. On this way you put us again into rebus - to don't know when and what we get back.

Again, you played against players and really Plarium will become our the biggest enemy in this game. And we will loose ofc.

All of this is unfair, sneaky and ugly.

Without clear answer on my clear question, every other comment is useless, and it is just a attempt to make us blind.

Your current yellowed BGs won't be affected by the change. Only the new ones.

BG system should operate in a certain way. Some players have found a vulnerability in the system and were trying to cheat it using the described strategy. We have eliminated this vulnerability.

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