Mar'eth Quests feedback update

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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
19 July, 2017, 7:57 AM UTC

Hello, Lords and Ladies :)

I received a lot of questions and feedback from you regarding some of our Mar'eth Quests. I told you that this feedback was forwarded to our devs, and now I would like to give you an update I received from them:

1. Take the 10th and higher place in League mission.

To get the Reward, you'll need to be in TOP 10 at the moment the Quest is reset;

2. We're not planning to change the fact that Rewards are lost if you don't claim them in time. It was one of the main features of the Quests. So, it won't be changed;

3. Quests with Hamlets. They won't be removed, but we're planning to add some feature to the Hamlets themselves. Stay tuned :)

4. Sometimes you can get a Quest to train Units, but you can't do it as the required Lost Art is not discovered.

It's not a bug. It's a feature and motivator to discover some Lost Arts faster :)

5. Quest to train a certain amount of Units cannot be completed as Unit training queue is busy.

We're planning to change the Quest in such a way that you'll receive a Reward when the Units are added to the Queue, and not when they're trained. Also, you'll be able to choose which queue you would like to boost;

6. Get back timer for Divine quests.

It was forwarded to UX designers;

7. Remove pop-up that appear once the Quest is completed.

Devs rejected this suggestion for now. Maybe, they'll reconsider it in the future :)

8. Change formulation of Quest "Invite 10 firends to the game".

It was already done :)

9. Quests for Battlegrounds.

Devs won't remove them. If you don't want to hit BGs, you can skip this Quest.

10. Imperial Units are not taken into account for Unit training Quests.

Our devs are working on it, and it should be fixed in the near future :)

11. Quest for Class II Equipment Item upgrade.

We're planning to change it in such a way that Items of Class II and higher can be used for this Quest.

If you have any questions, please ask them in this topic 

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Stormfall
19 July, 2017, 8:49 AM UTC
Thanks for keeping us informed. Any ETA on the tweaks to the quests?
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
19 July, 2017, 8:56 AM UTC

Stormfall said:


Thanks for keeping us informed. Any ETA on the tweaks to the quests?

Hello :) 

Don't have any ETA for now. But I'll keep you updated :)
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Stormfall
19 July, 2017, 10:15 AM UTC
Dont bother, after todays update i am gonna take a break. No point in playing this game anymore.
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Feuerherz
19 July, 2017, 10:53 AM UTC
Gibt es die Ankündigung auch in deutsch? Ich verstehe sie nur teilweise.
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Skycooldude
19 July, 2017, 5:31 PM UTC

Thanks for giving us an update on this.


Really glad to hear the feedback on #5 and #11.. I think it really benefits the community.


Looking forward to what new things you add to the hamlets, hope they add the opportunity for some more pvp and fun for everyone.

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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
20 July, 2017, 9:14 AM UTC

Feuerherz said:


Gibt es die Ankündigung auch in deutsch? Ich verstehe sie nur teilweise.

Hello :) 

You can check this info in German here.
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redsox01854
26 July, 2017, 1:07 AM UTC
First, I am amazed that I found this forum and very happy I did. My question was answered in #11. My problem is, I only have class IV on all of my equipment. 
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Alina Phoenix
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26 July, 2017, 8:01 AM UTC

redsox01854 said:


First, I am amazed that I found this forum and very happy I did. My question was answered in #11. My problem is, I only have class IV on all of my equipment. 

Hello, my Lord 

Welcome to our Forum :) 

Many players faced the same issue with the high Class Equipment. So, devs decided to include not only Class II Equipment, but the Equipment with the higher Class as well.

We just need to wait when this update will be done :) 

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Snowgoon
26 July, 2017, 2:44 PM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:


redsox01854 said:


First, I am amazed that I found this forum and very happy I did. My question was answered in #11. My problem is, I only have class IV on all of my equipment. 

Hello, my Lord 

Welcome to our Forum :) 

Many players faced the same issue with the high Class Equipment. So, devs decided to include not only Class II Equipment, but the Equipment with the higher Class as well.

We just need to wait when this update will be done :) 

I don't see any need to change it - There is no 'issue', and attempting to change it could create new bugs which will take 6 months to fix

11. Quest for Class II Equipment Item upgrade.
We're planning to change it in such a way that Items of Class II and higher can be used for this Quest.

It is no hardship for players who are collecting Class III or IV to hit a level 21 bg to upgrade a cavalry item for the quest


It is a Weekly quest, so they have 7 days to complete it, and can use free boosts if needed
They are probably hitting these anyway to get junk equipment to sell for mooncoins - 10 minutes for 90 mooncoins is good (15 minutes minus the 5 minute free boost)
If you do upgrade this quest then it should give us the keys we need, or more sketches or both, based upon the equipment we choose to upgrade

p,s, Does redsox01854 think we can only upgrade equipment that is equipped? Maybe that was the true reason for his (and 'many' other) complaints
All Items in the Inventory can be upgraded, then sold if unwanted  
http://prntscr.com/g0kgeq
Problem solved

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Alina Phoenix
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27 July, 2017, 9:38 AM UTC

Snowgoon said:


Alina Phoenix said:


redsox01854 said:


First, I am amazed that I found this forum and very happy I did. My question was answered in #11. My problem is, I only have class IV on all of my equipment. 

Hello, my Lord 

Welcome to our Forum :) 

Many players faced the same issue with the high Class Equipment. So, devs decided to include not only Class II Equipment, but the Equipment with the higher Class as well.

We just need to wait when this update will be done :) 

I don't see any need to change it - There is no 'issue', and attempting to change it could create new bugs which will take 6 months to fix

11. Quest for Class II Equipment Item upgrade.
We're planning to change it in such a way that Items of Class II and higher can be used for this Quest.

It is no hardship for players who are collecting Class III or IV to hit a level 21 bg to upgrade a cavalry item for the quest


It is a Weekly quest, so they have 7 days to complete it, and can use free boosts if needed
They are probably hitting these anyway to get junk equipment to sell for mooncoins - 10 minutes for 90 mooncoins is good (15 minutes minus the 5 minute free boost)
If you do upgrade this quest then it should give us the keys we need, or more sketches or both, based upon the equipment we choose to upgrade

p,s, Does redsox01854 think we can only upgrade equipment that is equipped? Maybe that was the true reason for his (and 'many' other) complaints
All Items in the Inventory can be upgraded, then sold if unwanted  
http://prntscr.com/g0kgeq
Problem solved

Hello.

The reason why it was decided to update this Quest is that many players don't have low-level BGs in their Eagle's Nest, and it's harder for them to receive Class II Equipment to complete this Quest.
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redsox01854
28 July, 2017, 2:13 AM UTC

I found out that if I have a class II in inventory waiting to be sold or moved to equipment, I can upgrade that one. Or play bg and get a class II if I don't already have one. So problem is solved. 


Yes, I did think that it had to be in equipment. You can upgrade on that is in inventory.
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toggit
28 July, 2017, 1:08 PM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:


Snowgoon said:

I don't see any need to change it

Hello.

The reason why it was decided to update this Quest is that many players don't have low-level BGs in their Eagle's Nest, and it's harder for them to receive Class II Equipment to complete this Quest.

This cannot be true, but if it is true then it is evidence that the algorithm is broken
How can so many players never get low-level bg during an entire week?
Who are these mystery players? and how many battlegrounds are they completing in a week??
Does the Battleground Hunt Item only give high level bg?  http://prntscr.com/g1fjvj

Most players in my league complain that they get too many low level bg
Maybe a fairer way to select new bg is the true problem
Yet again, instead of curing the disease you are only treating the symptoms, and the patient dies

Redsox reply seems to confirm that there has been some confusion with your methods
At least HE got the answer he needed, but not from YOU, nor from any of your MODS

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brunsonthomas
28 July, 2017, 3:05 PM UTC
toggit said:

Alina Phoenix said:


Snowgoon said:

I don't see any need to change it

Hello.

The reason why it was decided to update this Quest is that many players don't have low-level BGs in their Eagle's Nest, and it's harder for them to receive Class II Equipment to complete this Quest.

This cannot be true, but if it is true then it is evidence that the algorithm is broken
How can so many players never get low-level bg during an entire week?
Who are these mystery players? and how many battlegrounds are they completing in a week??
Does the Battleground Hunt Item only give high level bg?  http://prntscr.com/g1fjvj

Most players in my league complain that they get too many low level bg
Maybe a fairer way to select new bg is the true problem
Yet again, instead of curing the disease you are only treating the symptoms, and the patient dies

Redsox reply seems to confirm that there has been some confusion with your methods
At least HE got the answer he needed, but not from YOU, nor from any of your MODS

I know players who rarely have any Battleground below level 100 Battlegrounds. One you start doing level 110 plus Battlegrounds you will see the low level BGs rapidly disappear. If you do not clear over half of the Battlegrounds per day it is even worse. If your members are complaining they have too many low level just remind them to clear them out daily and slowly work toward higher level BGs and this will be a problem they will wish they had.
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Snowgoon
28 July, 2017, 8:29 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


toggit said:


 if it is true then it is evidence that the algorithm is broken

Maybe a fairer way to select new bg is the true problem

I know players who rarely have any Battleground below level 100

Then they cannot easily cpmplete the daily quests for mooncoins either - hit 6 bg or sell 6 items usually gives me 500 mooncoins every day, so fixing the weekly quest for sketches is NOT the answer

Sounds like the algorithm really is broken

We should all have access to high level, mid level and low level bg every day, relative to the level of our highest level


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carolpringle59
29 July, 2017, 12:32 PM UTC
On number 1 How can you claim the quest if it's counted at time of reset ???? there is no Chance because after reset the quest is Gone .
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Snowgoon
30 July, 2017, 2:20 PM UTC

Why not fix the Power Points?


I killed one archer and the quest went from 75 to 94

One archer is not worth 19 power points - it should be divided by 40


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https://prnt.sc/g24tyo



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Lord Malevolent
1 August, 2017, 6:39 AM UTC

I do not understand the problem people are having with #11, ever since these quests first came out it has been possible to upgrade any item lvl II or higher to complete the quest. Never ever had an issue with it, and never upgraded a lvl II either, always higher ;)


Real issue is #1 as the quest fails about 90% of the time IF points were gathered on the previous serverday, and no points on the serverday it completes. (reported already).

Also for many the timing of the quest can be troublesome, if it is completing near server midnight.

Getting 10 people to play the game for 2 legendary units is just silly. If this was really already changed, and is now "improved" version of this quest, i fail to see myself ever completing it. Inviting 10 new people would be more feasible, wether or not they start playing.





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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
1 August, 2017, 7:02 AM UTC

Snowgoon said:


brunsonthomas said:


toggit said:


 if it is true then it is evidence that the algorithm is broken

Maybe a fairer way to select new bg is the true problem

I know players who rarely have any Battleground below level 100

Then they cannot easily cpmplete the daily quests for mooncoins either - hit 6 bg or sell 6 items usually gives me 500 mooncoins every day, so fixing the weekly quest for sketches is NOT the answer

Sounds like the algorithm really is broken

We should all have access to high level, mid level and low level bg every day, relative to the level of our highest level


Hello.

The algorithm is not broken. For now, the BGs are given based on the Level of the highest BG you have.

But in the near future, devs are planning to change the algorithm so that players could receive high, middle and low level BGs. 
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
1 August, 2017, 7:14 AM UTC

Lord Malevolent said:


I do not understand the problem people are having with #11, ever since these quests first came out it has been possible to upgrade any item lvl II or higher to complete the quest. Never ever had an issue with it, and never upgraded a lvl II either, always higher ;)


Real issue is #1 as the quest fails about 90% of the time IF points were gathered on the previous serverday, and no points on the serverday it completes. (reported already).

Also for many the timing of the quest can be troublesome, if it is completing near server midnight.

Getting 10 people to play the game for 2 legendary units is just silly. If this was really already changed, and is now "improved" version of this quest, i fail to see myself ever completing it. Inviting 10 new people would be more feasible, wether or not they start playing.





Hello.

Devs are working on the Quest "Take the 10th and higher place in League mission".

The condition that should be completed for this Quest to get the Reward will be changed in the near future.

As for the Quest "Get 10 Friends to start playing the game", devs don't plan to change it. 

If you don't like the Reward, you can just don't complete this Quest. All the Quests are not obligatory, and you can choose only those that you think worth your effort.

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