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Dec 6, 2016, 15:3012/06/16
01/08/16
5
Seems to me prize drawing is only a few hours old and we already have problems looks like the same person won three times so far and another person won twice sounds a little fishy if you ask me!
Dec 6, 2016, 15:3112/06/16
12/13/14
1282

Please give us the option to demolish our Keep and replace it with a Casino

Destroy the Eagle's Nest and build a giant Slot Machine

Blow up the Catacombs and replace it with a Roulette Wheel

and rename the game Stormfall Slots


.... just like Zynga did with Mafia Wars



Dec 6, 2016, 15:3612/06/16
Dec 6, 2016, 15:41(edited)
718

for a target of 300k each, make your count now

gain back 130k-110k-130k-110k-30k (mop sapphires), like statistics? you can simple see but all we can see also

back too many sapphires to Plarium, greed greed Plarium as always same (feedback)


the "prize" is paid by non-winning players and you gain also like moneylenders (around 30-35%)

Dec 6, 2016, 15:5012/06/16
311

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


johanrayne said:



the most important condition of Gambling is spending real money.  play the game.  really play it.  do not say that sapphires are easy to gain through gameplay.  at least 95% of sapphires are purchased with real life cash.  this is gambling.  japanese ball bearings is gambling.  jumy shows an 17% vig for the house.  and that is what plarium is, the house.  we know that you offer nothing real.  but you take real life cash.

please show a little intelligence and integrity and call this what it is.  gambling sapphires away.  this equals gambling real life cash away.

please do not insert pre-programmed company response.  please show that you are a real person.  if you do not, then there is absolutely no trust in anything you will ever say.
There's no condition to use in-app purchases to participate in Draws. You're not forced to participate in all of them, right? You can get Sapphires from Tournaments (for example), and then participate in a Draw.

this is the answer i expected from you.  doing the exact opposite of what i pleaded.  it takes 2 things to gain understanding:

1.  the intelligence to understand

2.  the integrity to acknowledge the understanding.

i answered your answer before you answered.  i know the pre-programmed company response. i pleaded that you would be real and not use it.  i also stated what the consequence would be.  nothing you will ever say will be trusted.
Dec 6, 2016, 20:4812/06/16
07/12/14
28

Lord Oberon said:


New Feature: Prize Draws!

Enter Now To Win Powerful Rewards!

My Lords and Ladies!

Exciting news from on high! A new feature is about to be launched: Prize Draws! Now you have the chance to get your hands on piles of Sapphires, Units, and other powerful Items!

Players of Level 21 and above will now be able to try their luck in a variety of different Prize Draws: Express, Standard, and Epic. To take part in a Draw, acquire a Ticket and enter the Draw of your choice. Once a set umber of tickets have been entered, the Prize Draw will take place, and the lucky winner announced!

Winners are selected at random, but you can enter multiple Tickets into a Draw. The more Tickets you enter, the better your chances of winning a Reward!

To participate, open the Events window and find the "Prize Draws" tab: from there, pick the Prize Draw that you wish to take part in and enter a Ticket! You can enter a single Draw with multiple Tickets, or alternatively spread your Tickets across multiple Draws. Remember, not all Prize Draws are the same – some yield bigger Rewards than others – so keep your eye out for some truly spectacular prizes!

Fortune favors the brave, Lords and Ladies! Explore Prize Draws today!

Lord Oberon

Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall


Seriously, how is it from all the feedback you guys get that you come up with this.

just like with a dying town, up pops the revenue raiser, same for a dying game i guess.

listen to your customers, and sack the bone head who comes up with these ideas.


Dec 6, 2016, 21:0912/06/16
06/22/14
448

@Alyona:

You know very well what gambling is. I have nothing against gambling. Everyone has right to risk whatever it wants.

In every casino only HOUSE is winner, and soon or later many of us will understand what are we became in this game. I have feeling that my ears are pretty bigger than before 2+ years. But that is my problem not your.


Your problem is much bigger. Every day you have to find way to explain us how black is white and vice versa. And I saw many posts where you earned your salary in full.


But not today, and not in this post.

I know that you understood my question from start, but you are Alyona and you tried to lead this conversation in direction where you thought that you have chance too explain Santa Clause existing. For now, you're failed. But that is your and your salary problem, not mine.


My problem where you can help me is described in first post, but to avoid further misunderstandings I will compose question:

Where is the relation between PRIZE DRAWS feature and STRATEGY?
Dec 6, 2016, 21:3112/06/16
08/03/14
1364
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Drogar61 said:


Plarium will loose sapps on this precious roulette. 


Please remove word STRATEGY from any of your announcements. Change it with GAMBLING.

And play 'House of Rising Sun'.


One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling. 

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.
maybe in your district. some have declared this type of gambling as illegal too.  you have now made criminals of your customers. 
Dec 6, 2016, 21:4312/06/16
07/25/15
2634

as long as sapphires got a cash value, even the prizes might not have as can't be traded "legaly" back into cash, Its still gambling.



Dec 6, 2016, 22:1812/06/16
08/03/14
1364
raffling is illegal in canada, the US, and the UK. 
Dec 6, 2016, 22:2112/06/16
07/25/15
2634

IronApex Turok said:


raffling is illegal in canada, the US, and the UK. 

I think you would need a gambling liscence in the country where the servers is located too.


Dec 6, 2016, 22:5812/06/16
08/03/14
1364

constructive feedback: this screams potential fraud and illegal activities. makes me very suspicious as a player.  im also worried that i am now in violation of federal and state law where i live by playing this game. 


i will be reviewing this with my lawyer (no joke, im a business owner and cant afford to be caught up in scandals like this) to consider whether or not to terminate my account with this company. 
Dec 7, 2016, 01:0112/07/16
07/31/16
9

I  think it's a good idea BUT... it's not often one can afford to 'gamble' away 100 sapphires on such odds.

I would like to see 10 sapphire-100 win bets for us poor folk or even  1- 10 win sapphire bets.

Better yet how about being able to bet resources or extra hero equipment?
Dec 7, 2016, 02:1412/07/16
07/25/15
2634

jinix90 said:


I  think it's a good idea BUT... it's not often one can afford to 'gamble' away 100 sapphires on such odds.

I would like to see 10 sapphire-100 win bets for us poor folk or even  1- 10 win sapphire bets.

Better yet how about being able to bet resources or extra hero equipment?


Dec 7, 2016, 09:5212/07/16
Dec 7, 2016, 10:00(edited)
718

jumy said:

one lucky player will win ok, with the transparency of this game I suspect also might be the usual chosen (according to VIP club and other cheat features) 

the only gain does Plarium as always
see >>>THIS<>

as expected, very strange


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


FAILO said:



yes exactly. plarium plarium plarium... what about players once in a while
All players have equal chances of winning in the Draw :)

i can only see 1 page in winner, but ehy is amazing

randomness by Plarium



there are more chances that you drops a meteorite in the head



the randomness does not exist in this game




Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Dec 7, 2016, 09:5912/07/16
09/17/15
8278

Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Dec 7, 2016, 10:0212/07/16
09/17/15
8278

jumy said:




i can only see 1 page in winner, but ehy is amazing

randomness by Plarium



there are more chances that you drops a meteorite in the head


We have checked all similar situations. Nothing was wrong. Players actively participated in Draws and in many cases they invested more than 1 ticket. Each ticket has equal chances of winning. However, each player can buy multiple tickets to have better chances.


Dec 7, 2016, 10:0612/07/16
Dec 7, 2016, 10:06(edited)
718

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.

Alyona, is the reality, put your feet on the ground that we all live on the same planet

at least it had to be 300k for win 300k (min considering the full price), each "casual"  extraction disappear many sapphires  from the prize pool

Where are they going?

Dec 7, 2016, 10:0612/07/16
07/25/15
2634

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.

If you made a new type of currency ingame that could be only obtainable by ingame activties... why not use moon coins... then you could claim that, but as long as you use a currency that also can be purchased by real cash, then there is a issue tbh.


Would this even been an event if  people wouldn't spend cash on sapphires to buy tickets with? Please be honest now Alyona. We all know the answer to that, NO it wouldn't. the entire purpose is to get us the players to spend cash on sapphires to spend. 


The whole thing doesn't affect me, as I would NEVER spend on a thing like this, I rather would buy a lottery ticket in rl where I could win cash or what not benefit me in the real world. But this whole event is sending Plarium to a whole new low, just saying. Running out of ideas to milk us from cash?

 
Dec 7, 2016, 10:0812/07/16
Dec 7, 2016, 15:52(edited)
718

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


jumy said:




i can only see 1 page in winner, but ehy is amazing

randomness by Plarium



there are more chances that you drops a meteorite in the head


We have checked all similar situations. Nothing was wrong. Players actively participated in Draws and in many cases they invested more than 1 ticket. Each ticket has equal chances of winning. However, each player can buy multiple tickets to have better chances.


I agree with you, it is so OK for Plarium, read well


edit and add this 


in the future may be lost

Dec 7, 2016, 14:1812/07/16
Dec 7, 2016, 14:22(edited)
12/13/14
1282

Lord Oberon said:


New Feature: Prize Draws!


The more Tickets you enter, the better your chances of winning a Reward!

I wonder how long it will be before the bots start buying tickets.

There are enough of them to guarantee winning every prize draw.

Better not roll this out on the Pirate game or the Russian bot owners will drain you dry. RUaL league will take everything you offer them