New Lost Art Levels!

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SaMilkieSa
14 October, 2016, 4:07 PM UTC

I was just a few days away from Maxing my lost arts at lvl 20. Not that I mind having the option to go to lvl 32 just means another year upgrading.. 



Also why didn't you add the lvl increases to "quests" like you did with lost arts up to lvl 20. Would have been nice to get a little extra XP and some troops, although mainly I just followed the quest directions as I couldn't be bothered to think what to upgrade next. 


Finally, make Sages permanent and buyable via the blackmarket like craftsman. 

Ta

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SaMilkieSa
14 October, 2016, 4:10 PM UTC

Another question, when you increase the lost art bonuses do you change battlefields to compensate? 


I mean before you could take out a lvl 20 with 350 archers, will this be the same or could I now take out a lvl 20 battlefield with 300 archers after the lost art being upgraded to 32? Hope this makes sense?


Cheers



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brunsonthomas
Moderator
14 October, 2016, 5:21 PM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


so if someone had a 1 billion power offense at level 20 arts, what do they have at level 32?

According to the Bonus stats approx 1.4 billion.

 (1 billion/1.2)*1.7

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KING
14 October, 2016, 10:48 PM UTC
SaMilkieSa said:

Another question, when you increase the lost art bonuses do you change battlefields to compensate? 


I mean before you could take out a lvl 20 with 350 archers, will this be the same or could I now take out a lvl 20 battlefield with 300 archers after the lost art being upgraded to 32? Hope this makes sense?


Cheers



if thats the case the leveling up would become pointless  LOL hahaha thats like inflation in real life which cases the weak/poor to get weaker/more poor
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Ranger_Jones
15 October, 2016, 5:15 AM UTC
exxxe said:

Jrooksjr said:

I think you forgot about the  Dwarven race Troops (Arbalesters, Wardens, Bear Riders and Ballistas), as their Lost arts did not get the new 12 additional levels like the other Troop Lost arts did - they are still maxed out at level 20


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not all lost arts are up gradable just the ones with a bonus button on their picture  
If the dwarven troops are not upgradeable beyond lvl 20, that will make them less powerful relative to other troops. This changes the strengths of troops relative to each other and affects the game dynamics, which makes it a bad idea in my opinion. 
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Nemanja
15 October, 2016, 7:49 AM UTC

My Lords,

Higher upgrading is another benefit for all. Why shouldn't we have stronger troops for same price in res?

Nemanja
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Stormfall
15 October, 2016, 9:43 AM UTC

Why did you raised amounts of resources required to upgrade regular levels (1-20) of lost arts? To upgrade dragon eggs to level 13 now it takes 93k iron and gold and 210k food. You really dont want new players, do you?

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Ichezis
15 October, 2016, 2:00 PM UTC

Greetings Lords and Ladies!

The wiki article regarding the Lost Arts has been updated!

Feel free to check it out! Feedback appreciated.
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FAILO
15 October, 2016, 2:46 PM UTC

Stormfall said:


Why did you raised amounts of resources required to upgrade regular levels (1-20) of lost arts? To upgrade dragon eggs to level 13 now it takes 93k iron and gold and 210k food. You really dont want new players, do you?

All the levels require more resources after each upgrade.

eg from lv 1 to 2 might be 10k gold/iron 15k food and lv 2-3 might be 12k gold/iron 18k food.


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Warrior
15 October, 2016, 3:42 PM UTC
SaMilkieSa said:

Another question, when you increase the lost art bonuses do you change battlefields to compensate? 


I mean before you could take out a lvl 20 with 350 archers, will this be the same or could I now take out a lvl 20 battlefield with 300 archers after the lost art being upgraded to 32? Hope this makes sense?


Cheers



can someone answer this as it will help.
Please Like the Post if you agree or if it helps
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Stormfall
15 October, 2016, 3:51 PM UTC

FAILO said:


All the levels require more resources after each upgrade.


I am fully aware of that. However it is not what I am talking about here. I am sure that befeore the last update upgrading dragon eggs to level 13 didnt required 210k food just as upgrading wyvern's blood to level 14 didnt required 200k food. Those values were changed. As a player with serious negative food production food requirements is what i am focusing on and it didnt take full barns to upgrade those lost arts before.

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FAILO
15 October, 2016, 3:57 PM UTC

Stormfall said:


FAILO said:


All the levels require more resources after each upgrade.


I am fully aware of that. However it is not what I am talking about here. I am sure that befeore the last update upgrading dragon eggs to level 13 didnt required 210k food just as upgrading wyvern's blood to level 14 didnt required 200k food. Those values were changed. As a player with serious negative food production food requirements is what i am focusing on and it didnt take full barns to upgrade those lost arts before.

i diddnt notice anything but i would not be surprised at all if you are correct..

its all part of plarium greed to make players work harder exept the highest of coiners.
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brunsonthomas
Moderator
15 October, 2016, 4:35 PM UTC
warrior said:

SaMilkieSa said:

Another question, when you increase the lost art bonuses do you change battlefields to compensate? 


I mean before you could take out a lvl 20 with 350 archers, will this be the same or could I now take out a lvl 20 battlefield with 300 archers after the lost art being upgraded to 32? Hope this makes sense?


Cheers



can someone answer this as it will help.
Sorry that it took so long for you to get an answer. The answer is in BGs the base price of an archer has not changed therefore the bank for BG is going to be the same for a level 20 or 32 or any level Archer. So a level 32 archer will do more harm but contribute the same to your bank as a level 0 archer. Bottom line your bank will increase slower but you will need fewer troops to destroy a BG level.
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Nemstar
16 October, 2016, 3:11 AM UTC

Unknown_Ranger said:


exxxe said:


Jrooksjr said:


I think you forgot about the  Dwarven race Troops (Arbalesters, Wardens, Bear Riders and Ballistas), as their Lost arts did not get the new 12 additional levels like the other Troop Lost arts did - they are still maxed out at level 20


Screen Shot

not all lost arts are up gradable just the ones with a bonus button on their picture  
If the dwarven troops are not upgradeable beyond lvl 20, that will make them less powerful relative to other troops. This changes the strengths of troops relative to each other and affects the game dynamics, which makes it a bad idea in my opinion. 

I agree, even though this is a good update that all players can partake in the coiners will boost ahead but thats possible with everything and won't change under Plariums management so its to be expected.


EDIT: Although the sketches required to go from lvl 30 to 32 is just crazy. So i hope if they expect us to use that many sketches they will put them more frequently in tournaments or even a suggestion here, add them to the daily loyalty reward, a batch at 45 & a batch 90. But you will need to hand those out to make it fair for all players.


But why wasn't all the troops boosted up to 32? Just like players above are saying its creating imbalance within the game. Most may not use them but for those that do are now heavily underhanded and will not BUILD those troops anymore because they can't level them to 32 so they become useless, dead content.


I say change it so they can be pushed to level 32 as well or never give those troops as rewards anywhere, bg's etc because they'll be useless. 


I don't understand your updates, each update brings more destruction. You've made 4 units within the game useless now.... how did you not foresee this?

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Blasphemy
Moderator
16 October, 2016, 2:40 PM UTC

Does anyone know the pricing of lost arts after level 20?

has anyone saved these numbers?


(excuse me if this had been added in a different area ) 
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
17 October, 2016, 8:59 AM UTC

SaMilkieSa said:


Another question, when you increase the lost art bonuses do you change battlefields to compensate? 


We didn't change the BGs. They still have the same power and mechanics as before the update. 

As for the quests, we are not planning to add them for now. 
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
17 October, 2016, 9:01 AM UTC

Nemstar said:




EDIT: Although the sketches required to go from lvl 30 to 32 is just crazy. 


You will be able to get Sketches from different Tournaments. 
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
17 October, 2016, 9:02 AM UTC
Stormfall said:

I am fully aware of that. However it is not what I am talking about here. I am sure that befeore the last update upgrading dragon eggs to level 13 didnt required 210k food just as upgrading wyvern's blood to level 14 didnt required 200k food. Those values were changed. As a player with serious negative food production food requirements is what i am focusing on and it didnt take full barns to upgrade those lost arts before.

We didn't change the old levels, we've just added the new ones.
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Snowgoon
17 October, 2016, 1:59 PM UTC

Upgrading beyond level 20 was inevitable - We saw this with buildings with 5 new levels added to most, but I think adding 12 new levels to Lost Arts was too much too soon.
This gives coiners too much of an advantage, many of whom will already have level 30 dragons

It will take far too long for the rest of us to upgrade our beacon/fortress defense
Nobody is gonna spend sapphires boosting defensive upgrades


I would have been much happier to see 5 new levels, not 12


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