Capture the Flag Tournament

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pedrolozada11
6 October, 2016, 6:25 AM UTC
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exxxe
6 October, 2016, 7:36 AM UTC

pedrolozada11 said:


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Sir_bit_yakin
26 November, 2016, 7:27 PM UTC

I made a SIMPLE suggestion last time, which apparently was completely ignored

only allow leagues to take flags from leagues in their tier


right now a tier 4 league is holding 59 tier 2 flags


that's 60% of all the tier 2 league flags available, and I DOUBT any tier 2 leagues have the power to take any back


by the end of this odds are AGAIN there will only be 3 or 4 tier 2 leagues with ANY FLAGS AT ALL

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Knightmare
26 November, 2016, 7:49 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


I made a SIMPLE suggestion last time, which apparently was completely ignored

only allow leagues to take flags from leagues in their tier


right now a tier 4 league is holding 59 tier 2 flags


that's 60% of all the tier 2 league flags available, and I DOUBT any tier 2 leagues have the power to take any back


by the end of this odds are AGAIN there will only be 3 or 4 tier 2 leagues with ANY FLAGS AT ALL

It is heavily flawed.


The Bennie's are few imho also. As with all the other flag tournys. We sit it out.


Much batter games out therethan tobother withth is and the 5 heats games.


Anywho good to see ya still kicking.



Nug Life !
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Snowgoon
29 December, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

NIKITA METEOR said:


Capture the Flag Tournament


Please note: If you attack a League Fortress that is more than one Tier lower than your own, you will not be able to capture that League's Flag. However, you may still downgrade the League Fortress if you do attack it. If the League is in possession of your Flag you will be able to rescue it. If they are held in this League Fortress, you may also capture Flags that originally belonged to Leagues in your Tier. You may also capture Flags that originally belonged to Leagues in the Tier directly below you, or to Leagues in the Tiers above you.

Why was this changed?




Allowing Leagues to attack TWO tiers lower just gives a huge advantage to the top bully boy leagues who have no honor
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jumy
29 December, 2016, 5:43 PM UTC
change rank but noting abut bully
The truth hurts
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Stormfall
29 December, 2016, 10:23 PM UTC

Snowgoon said:



Why was this changed?


So the "tournament" will last 5 minutes longer. Next time they will drop tiers completely for the whooping 2 additional minutes.

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jumy
30 December, 2016, 5:04 AM UTC

yesterday


today


a good tournaments always for same leagues :)

bully bully league can attack all league in all rank? so all is useless

The truth hurts
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Alina Bright
Community Manager
30 December, 2016, 10:07 AM UTC
Jumy, just wait for a while and then refresh the page. The data should be available then.
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jumy
30 December, 2016, 7:13 PM UTC

Eugenia Misura said:


Jumy, just wait for a while and then refresh the page. The data should be available then.

no, you are worng

if all legue in my rank have no points/flag is this....

so, if external leagues at my rank take all flag/points in my rank leagues, my rank is useless and empty

....and same all game bully bully


i can collect all flags/points in my rank and external leagues can take all my point/flag = my rank useless same for all

The truth hurts
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Sir_bit_yakin
4 March, 2017, 6:09 AM UTC

here is an interesting thing about this tourney


since the two tier spread, small leagues like mine are literally forced to fight MUCH larger/stronger leagues to get flags

some might say, no one is FORCING you to attack them, but they are,  there are two choices,   attack leagues hundreds of ranks higher than us or don't play...


the tier 4 take ALL the tier 2 flags, and its either attack them to get our tier 2 flags back or not play.


well guess what, these powerful leagues don't take it well when lil leagues attack their fortress's....

soo now these powerful leagues are all riled up at us for having the NERVE to attack them, even though the powers that be have FORCED US TO, but wait for it,waaaait for ittt...

you win some debuffs, but you CANNOT USE THEM ON THESE POWERFULL LEAGUES that are now riled up at us for attacking them

sooooo  not only are we FORCED to  fight them, after its all over you PROTECT THEM FROM US, by not allowing us to use our debufs to help level the playing field


I say if we HAVE to fight them we should be allowed to use our debuffs on them,  consider it an incentive to them to NOT BULLY small leagues, knowing if they go around raping small leagues they MIGHT get debuffs by those league they raped

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Jezebel
4 March, 2017, 7:40 AM UTC

My league participated - this is the first time that I played it from a lower ranked league - I actually enjoyed it more than I did with a higher ranked league.


My members participated and it lasted more than two minute for a change 


I agree that the higher level leagues should not be able to take lower tier flags that are useless to them in the tournament - they don't receive points for them or at least they aren't supposed to


Something was changed with the debuff system - I believe there may have been some whining from some of the top level leagues in this regard :)
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Shadow-Dragon
4 March, 2017, 6:40 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:


Nemanja said:


Lord Turok,

Reward is clearly described in post. It last for seven days maximum (depending when it was activated).
sorry. not enough for us to participate. 

It's your choice. 

We're not forcing you to chase those Buffs/Debuffs. It's just a new kind of Tournament to diversify your gaming activity. But none of the game features can please all players.
Yes you are correct you are NOT forcing us to chase the Buffs/Debuffs, but we have no option to "opt out" of the competition nor any option to "opt out" of a debuff that could be placed on us buy someone who did chose to join the tournament... I guarantee it's not our "CHOICE" to have a debuff placed on us either :P
Come and lie before me.
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Shadow-Dragon
4 March, 2017, 6:51 PM UTC

Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:


DJMoody said:  "I made a suggestion that has no feedback about adding a PvE element. The flags would be obtained from BG like Balur locations that spawn throughout the tournament. This would fix the "must be online in first hour of event" fundemental flaw there is today. You could still keep the element of stealing them from a fortress attack if desired to add PvP element." 


I agree with this idea - drop the tiers except possibly top 50, and all the leagues under 50th ranking to discourage farming the smaller leagues fortresses. Set the flags in random hamlets or battlegrounds (as DJ suggested) and make it more of a hunt to find them and accumulate as many as possible instead of just hitting an undefended fortress for the One flag it holds.  Don't post coords, so everyone has to manually hunt for them.  Better yet, make the flag sites randomly regenerate in different locations, so we have to keep checking for them. 

This would give smaller leagues more of a chance to accumulate flags, and a smaller league with more active players would have an advantage over a larger league with less active players.  Store them in the fortress, and make them possible to steal so we have to protect the fortress. THAT would make it more interesting? 

I don't think the #1 league would sit out the game if there was a chance that the #50 league could outscore them and set penalties.


I won't post this in Suggestions because I think we need a more open discussion than is appropriate there. 


 Well thought out reply awesome!


Come and lie before me.
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Sir_bit_yakin
4 March, 2017, 7:15 PM UTC

Jezebel said:


My league participated - this is the first time that I played it from a lower ranked league - I actually enjoyed it more than I did with a higher ranked league.


My members participated and it lasted more than two minute for a change 


I agree that the higher level leagues should not be able to take lower tier flags that are useless to them in the tournament - they don't receive points for them or at least they aren't supposed to


Something was changed with the debuff system - I believe there may have been some whining from some of the top level leagues in this regard :)

you guys stomped it, we got raided by HIGH lvl league and they left you alone,  we got hit, I wrote the guy who hit us,   tier 5 league player

I said why are you hitting us you can't take our flags, of course he was looking for PVP points

I sent a messaged back for him to hit you, that you had lots of PVP points,   reply, no we won't hit jezebel.


you guys had 14.3K points,  to everyone else in tier 2's  couple hundred points, because none of the BIG leagues would hit you


suppose to be a reward for the top 10 league,  tier 2 NEVER has more than  3 - 6  league with ANY FLAGS AT ALL

I've even gone to tier 4 leagues, hit them and sent lower lvl leagues their flags back to them, to try and increase the tier 2 pool


as I have said many times, I LIKE this tourney concept, just tired of being treated like a dog to be kicked in it, because the powers that be can't seem to grasp the concept of BALANCE

EVERY SPORT, EVERY GAME has tiers to it, based on various criteria, and NONE of them allow the tiers to cross in a tournament setting

NFL doesn't play against college, college doesn't play against high school, high school doesn't play against grade school,  now if they want to meet at the local sandlot and play  together that's their choice,  but when its for REWARDS, TROPHYS, PAY (gems/buffs)  they DO NOT EVER CROSS


the low level leagues have TWO CHOICES,  either fight MUCH higher ranked leagues to try and bring THIER flags back to the lower tiers, or NOT PLAY AT ALL


PS. yes jezebel they do get points for ALL flags they hold,  not worth as MUCH, but when you have hundreds of them they add up!

matter of a fact MOST tier 4 leagues, have ONLY tier 2 flags, they DO NOT fight their own tiers AT ALL, the all go down to take flags from leagues they know CANNOT COMPETE WITH THEM

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Jezebel
5 March, 2017, 3:26 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


Jezebel said:


My league participated - this is the first time that I played it from a lower ranked league - I actually enjoyed it more than I did with a higher ranked league.


My members participated and it lasted more than two minute for a change 


I agree that the higher level leagues should not be able to take lower tier flags that are useless to them in the tournament - they don't receive points for them or at least they aren't supposed to


Something was changed with the debuff system - I believe there may have been some whining from some of the top level leagues in this regard :)

you guys stomped it, we got raided by HIGH lvl league and they left you alone,  we got hit, I wrote the guy who hit us,   tier 5 league player

I said why are you hitting us you can't take our flags, of course he was looking for PVP points

I sent a messaged back for him to hit you, that you had lots of PVP points,   reply, no we won't hit jezebel.


you guys had 14.3K points,  to everyone else in tier 2's  couple hundred points, because none of the BIG leagues would hit you


suppose to be a reward for the top 10 league,  tier 2 NEVER has more than  3 - 6  league with ANY FLAGS AT ALL

I've even gone to tier 4 leagues, hit them and sent lower lvl leagues their flags back to them, to try and increase the tier 2 pool


as I have said many times, I LIKE this tourney concept, just tired of being treated like a dog to be kicked in it, because the powers that be can't seem to grasp the concept of BALANCE

EVERY SPORT, EVERY GAME has tiers to it, based on various criteria, and NONE of them allow the tiers to cross in a tournament setting

NFL doesn't play against college, college doesn't play against high school, high school doesn't play against grade school,  now if they want to meet at the local sandlot and play  together that's their choice,  but when its for REWARDS, TROPHYS, PAY (gems/buffs)  they DO NOT EVER CROSS


the low level leagues have TWO CHOICES,  either fight MUCH higher ranked leagues to try and bring THIER flags back to the lower tiers, or NOT PLAY AT ALL


PS. yes jezebel they do get points for ALL flags they hold,  not worth as MUCH, but when you have hundreds of them they add up!

matter of a fact MOST tier 4 leagues, have ONLY tier 2 flags, they DO NOT fight their own tiers AT ALL, the all go down to take flags from leagues they know CANNOT COMPETE WITH THEM

lol sorry I didn't realize I was so popular :)  I can't help who my friends are - I also play to win which is the point of any game - do i go about smacking smaller players for PVP? No I don't but why should i not play a tournament to win?  It comes down to tactical game play.


anyhow you don't have to compete its no big deal to have someone take your flag - no big deal


for those that do play the tournament you need to figure out the best tactical plays for your league 


my members asked to partake in the tournament it was something they wanted otherwise I would have just sat it out like I usually do but they had fun which is the main goal to the game for me at this point


when they first introduced the rules credit was not supposed to be given for flags captured below your tier so what has changed?


btw our fortress did get hit but the ones who did lost troops !!!
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Sir_bit_yakin
5 March, 2017, 6:00 PM UTC

sorry if that came off as critical of you, or your league, I didn't mean it that way, everything I have said was to point out the total imbalance of the tier set up....


your "friends"  didn't attack you, so you posted the best score I've ever seen in tier 2, while the rest of us didn't have that luxery...

the point of me bringing it up was to show how much more fun it is when you don't have UBER leagues waffle stomping you, or to quote you, "  I actually enjoyed it "


I think the direct competition makes this the best tourney in the game,  its not just  DO WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO ANYHOW, and collect points

rivalries form, you go head to head against other leagues, its a REAL tournament. I like that ALOT, what I don't like is being forced to go head to head with leagues I can't possibly compete with...


mods say figure out a strategy, use diplomacy. still trying to figure out how diplomacy would work in this tourney, lets see  tier 4 league has 30 tier 2 flags, I write them and say please return us our flag,  and we won't attack you, and you don't attack us anymore....   except that one of those cut your nose off despite you face moves sine the tier 4 league still has 29 tier 2 flags and NOW I can't try to go get them back...

I'd like to hear an example of how diplomacy might help in THIS tourny

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Jezebel
5 March, 2017, 7:06 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


sorry if that came off as critical of you, or your league, I didn't mean it that way, everything I have said was to point out the total imbalance of the tier set up....


your "friends"  didn't attack you, so you posted the best score I've ever seen in tier 2, while the rest of us didn't have that luxery...

the point of me bringing it up was to show how much more fun it is when you don't have UBER leagues waffle stomping you, or to quote you, "  I actually enjoyed it "


I think the direct competition makes this the best tourney in the game,  its not just  DO WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO ANYHOW, and collect points

rivalries form, you go head to head against other leagues, its a REAL tournament. I like that ALOT, what I don't like is being forced to go head to head with leagues I can't possibly compete with...


mods say figure out a strategy, use diplomacy. still trying to figure out how diplomacy would work in this tourney, lets see  tier 4 league has 30 tier 2 flags, I write them and say please return us our flag,  and we won't attack you, and you don't attack us anymore....   except that one of those cut your nose off despite you face moves sine the tier 4 league still has 29 tier 2 flags and NOW I can't try to go get them back...

I'd like to hear an example of how diplomacy might help in THIS tourny

our fortress was attacked - maybe not by top leagues but I have played the game for over 2 years and made lots of friends - I don't consider us an UBER league - we have 68 members and look at our line up - we are no better than any other league in our tier except for experience and knowledge of the game of some of our higher level players - 99% of my players had never played a flag tournament before and i was in chat instructing them how to approach it


I do agree that higher tiered leagues should not be able to take flags from leagues in a lower tier - it's unfortunate that they can and only Plarium can fix the mechanics to balance this but somehow I think they will tell us that it is too complicated for the developers to achieve this
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Sir_bit_yakin
5 March, 2017, 11:56 PM UTC

don't see how it could be to complicated, they made the change from a one tier spread to a two tier spread, its as simple as changing the values in the program


the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing the numbers


again I didn't mean to imply you are a an uber league,  since we aren't allowed to name names  etc etc etc, let me just say this, the player who told me they wouldn't attack you was in a league ranked in the top 5 leagues


they attacked us, but wouldn't attack you...


its really not that so much as the tier 4 leagues,  I have shown consistently threw the 4 or 5 times we've done this tourney, they ravage the tier 2's  and then get umm UPSET when we go try to take them back

there is no strategy, no diplomacy that can fix this,  its either go get those flags and bring them back to tier 2 or just NOT PLAY...


also it was a BAD idea  doing this in the middle of the week, since peoples schedules vary on work days, I couldn't get my power players on-line at the same time so we could mount an attack against you

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Jezebel
6 March, 2017, 1:27 AM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


don't see how it could be to complicated, they made the change from a one tier spread to a two tier spread, its as simple as changing the values in the program


the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing the numbers


again I didn't mean to imply you are a an uber league,  since we aren't allowed to name names  etc etc etc, let me just say this, the player who told me they wouldn't attack you was in a league ranked in the top 5 leagues


they attacked us, but wouldn't attack you...


its really not that so much as the tier 4 leagues,  I have shown consistently threw the 4 or 5 times we've done this tourney, they ravage the tier 2's  and then get umm UPSET when we go try to take them back

there is no strategy, no diplomacy that can fix this,  its either go get those flags and bring them back to tier 2 or just NOT PLAY...


also it was a BAD idea  doing this in the middle of the week, since peoples schedules vary on work days, I couldn't get my power players on-line at the same time so we could mount an attack against you

you also did not defend the flags you took - had you done that you would not have lost them ... just sayin


I have also exchanged messages with the leadership in the top 10 leagues so if they chose to not hit "me" then I suppose I have earned their respect in some way - so that is how diplomacy works in the game :)


sorry I feel like you want me to apologize for my league doing well and I just can't do it - my league worked as a team and we excelled for our tier level - all I can say is that I have an awesome bunch of members and their victory was well deserved

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