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Gadheras
20 July, 2016, 10:17 AM UTC

Nemanja said:


Lord Gadheras,

There are millions of Stormfall players. Many of them (including myself) aren't pay players.

So, pay to win is only an option.

Where are you hiding those millions of players? Because they certainly not on this server?`If you take the combined members of the top 200 leagues, and then subtract at least 20% of them as alts (if not even more), you probably get closer to the actual active server population.


and Im sorry but this game is in the category of "pay to win" because of the business model. Not because the way you or others play the game.
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Nemanja
20 July, 2016, 6:55 PM UTC

Lord Gadheras,

there are 1,1 m Forum users. Since there are many players without interest for Forum discussion its easy to conclude that we have few millions  players at least. As long as we have free players here pay to win is only an option. 
Nemanja
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Gadheras
20 July, 2016, 8:27 PM UTC

Nemanja said:


Lord Gadheras,

there are 1,1 m Forum users. Since there are many players without interest for Forum discussion its easy to conclude that we have few millions  players at least. As long as we have free players here pay to win is only an option. 

Will the real slim shady please stand up?


You can say over a spawn of x time you had y number of players trying the game. That is not the same as saying you got millions of players. Plarium could very EASY release server stats of active players, how  many logged into the sever at any given time and so on, but they don't.


I been member of other forums and still is over the duration of more than a decade, with far more users than this forum have. Doesn't mean that number reflect active members. You don't have 1.1 million active forum users here, you don't even have 110k active forum users. Players get enticed to register on the forum to get a reward. 


So Im asking you again where is all these players? If you still insist there is that many players, then you could just as well say that everyone that ever played WOW still is a WOW player because, well... right?


and this game still a pay to win game, due to the business model. Its the business model that is the deciding factor, not if players chose to play without spend anything or not. hey man, I good for you playing for free and all, but you are still competing vs those that doesn't.
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jumy
20 July, 2016, 9:51 PM UTC

stay lowest numbers and favor Plarium each person has at least 10 castles

evidence that this game encourages alts and play with yourself

The truth hurts
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djmoody
21 July, 2016, 7:04 AM UTC

They would be lucky if there were several thousand decent, long term players on a server.

Most people who try the game leave within 10 mins. Easy to see from the number of wooden castles on the map. Of the ones that play longer, a lot more drop out after a few days under lvl 40. 

Only a handful get past lvl 40. Of those plenty just log in for a few mins queue troops using the resource from castle.

Dark Plains - 100th best ranked BG'er of last week scored 1612 points. Far less than 100 ppl doing BG's. 

Raiding is more difficult to judge because of the ease resources are collected from bot castles. 100th player in weekly raid ranking got 4.3m resource. That is 43 raids max raids, a bit over half the available weekly raids.

I think there are fewer than 200 of what I would call "active" players on my server.

Plarium measure it in dollars spent. So the game might be teetering on the brink of death, based on the playing of actual content but if people are still buying armies and smacking them into eachother then it's a grand success for Plarium.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Nemanja
21 July, 2016, 4:44 PM UTC

My Lords,

As I said before there are millions whose are playing Stormfall. That's a fact based on number of registered players on Forum, automatic numbers of newly created castles on all servers etc.

Please, stop spreading unverified information's.

Nemanja
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jumy
21 July, 2016, 4:58 PM UTC
Nemanja said:

My Lords,

As I said before there are millions whose are playing Stormfall. That's a fact based on number of registered players on Forum, automatic numbers of newly created castles on all servers etc.

Please, stop spreading unverified information's.


The truth hurts
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Gadheras
21 July, 2016, 5:17 PM UTC

Nemanja said:


My Lords,

As I said before there are millions whose are playing Stormfall. That's a fact based on number of registered players on Forum, automatic numbers of newly created castles on all servers etc.

Please, stop spreading unverified information's.


Okay. Where is the proof? @ Alyana, can we please have some server stats of daily logins, and such? active players on the sever etc when we do logon?


@ Nemana you can't call me and others liars when you have no other numbers to show for than registered members on this forum.
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Nemanja
21 July, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

Lord Gadheras,

I would like to see that information's, too. 

Nemanja
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jssamp2003
15 August, 2016, 1:05 PM UTC

I can scroll and zoom in my castle and zoom in the local area map but can't zoom in or out there. How about it. In general more zooming and scrolling to size the view to what I want to see.

Also Could we add a setting in options to start in full screen every time. It's THE ONLY WAY i'VE FOUND TO KILL THE LAG.


If you don't make mistakes you are doing engineering wrong. If you don't fix the mistakes you are doing engineering way wrong. If you don't admit you make mistakes you aren't doing engineering.
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brunsonthomas
15 August, 2016, 2:40 PM UTC
jssamp2003 said:

I can scroll and zoom in my castle and zoom in the local area map but can't zoom in or out there. How about it. In general more zooming and scrolling to size the view to what I want to see.

Also Could we add a setting in options to start in full screen every time. It's THE ONLY WAY i'VE FOUND TO KILL THE LAG.


Please add this to suggestions, I think it is a good idea and a different approach to different magnifications of the world view.
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stormwatcher
17 August, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

Nemanja said:


My Lords,

As I said before there are millions whose are playing Stormfall. That's a fact based on number of registered players on Forum, automatic numbers of newly created castles on all servers etc.

Please, stop spreading unverified information's.

This is easy enough doneĀ 

This is a screenshot from another only f2p game with same business model

http://prntscr.com/c6xnxi



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Gadheras
17 August, 2016, 8:40 PM UTC
stormwatcher said:

Nemanja said:


My Lords,

As I said before there are millions whose are playing Stormfall. That's a fact based on number of registered players on Forum, automatic numbers of newly created castles on all servers etc.

Please, stop spreading unverified information's.

This is easy enough doneĀ 

This is a screenshot from another only f2p game with same business model

http://prntscr.com/c6xnxi



Maybe not so good for their business to reveal those numbers. Its easier to get people to buy into their business if they state "oh we got millions of users" rather than show actual active users.
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
18 August, 2016, 8:47 AM UTC
Some companies may decide that they can share such information with players. However, some of them never share such info. It is a commercial secret for many companies, including ours. 
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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Gadheras
18 August, 2016, 9:01 AM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Some companies may decide that they can share such information with players. However, some of them never share such info. It is a commercial secret for many companies, including ours. 
I guess it sound better saying you got over a million registered users, rather than maybe 10k active users.... related to ad revenues and such. Players does spot a dead horse when they see one though. Well maybe not qutie dead yet, but the activity in the game doesn't reflect a huge amount of players.
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stormwatcher
18 August, 2016, 2:50 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Some companies may decide that they can share such information with players. However, some of them never share such info. It is a commercial secret for many companies, including ours. 

Let's be honest, the commercial secret is aimed at getting new players not investors -- as an investor I would never take that bold claim without  evidentiary proof -- as long as the game looks large and robust, it seeks to draw new players. 

However, the things that drew me to game are quickly being rendered obsolete. When a game seems to become winnable, without massive spending, people will leave.


Final note, telling players they don't have to do a tournament is akin to saying to an agitated person to calm down.  It shows a general lack of understanding of how people think and will have the opposite effect than intended.

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IronApex Turok
18 August, 2016, 7:29 PM UTC
there may be over a million registered users, but there is only 131k posts.  Which means a lot of registering and leaving. 
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Charon
18 August, 2016, 10:17 PM UTC
Agree with many of these comments, takes too long to move up and down the pages, when your friends bar is open you cannot work the bottom of the screen or have to open and close it to see the lower 10th.  Why not allow smaller icons for friends and a toggle on and off for the advisors bar?
JOE S
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
19 August, 2016, 7:35 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

there may be over a million registered users, but there is only 131k posts.  Which means a lot of registering and leaving. 
Some players just decide to read, not write. That's normal.
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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Gadheras
19 August, 2016, 8:40 AM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:


there may be over a million registered users, but there is only 131k posts.  Which means a lot of registering and leaving. 
Some players just decide to read, not write. That's normal.

I don't understand why it should be such a big secret though. (apart from maybe some of what Stormwatcher said above). And maybe if don't want to reval such things as "players currently online" when we log on due to not happy about those numbers.Then maybe look at what can be done to make those numbers go up and reach a target zone feel happy about. 


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