Get Guaranteed Rewards at Persian Positions!

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FirstSpartan
16 July, 2015, 2:25 AM UTC

This was my last payout from the old system (all were sent back to Xerxes)

http://prntscr.com/7sukvv

This is the first payout from the new system

http://prntscr.com/7sul2x

The dilemma: invest an additional 485k above the previous award to beat Lv 79

http://prntscr.com/7sule5

-with no idea what the resulting payout will be.

 

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PrimeGuardian
16 July, 2015, 3:42 AM UTC

the payout per each completing position has weaken the final payout, everytime you send army there it will return 30% of completing but instead it has decrease the total bank storage and ended up alot position needed to clear before hitting the 110% of loses to bank final reward.

when you have the reward, you actually loses the final army you send to clear that position and ended up losing another army to the bank, how many time you do it will be the same, final reward=more troop lose at bank

happen to me also, 4.5m defensive lose till 2.4m and the final payout is 1.8m and the 300k were lose during completing the position, how many time you try, it will eat out the unit that clear that position and ended up losing.

there no way you can actually gotten the final reward payout unit at all, good work plarium, you sure know how to throw a dead cat to a party.

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ARES
16 July, 2015, 3:59 AM UTC

old and good players play this game for fun, and persians positions are no. 1 reason to play this game and have fun, we can put no more money and find another game, what about that?

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theseus
16 July, 2015, 4:12 AM UTC

the game must have a fair and clear system, boss, with a real  win/loses indicator, we do not play blackjack or roulette here, if you need our money, please take it but we must have in exchang our fun, and Persians are number 1 reason we play this game, and in pp bank all loses must count together! Regards!

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jobet
16 July, 2015, 4:57 AM UTC

this new scheme in playing with position is a disadvantage to players, previously we can get our troops back with reward, but now we will lose more than gaining... ive lost 6mil and until now im struggling to get back my troops back..... if this will continue.. i will quit and never play the game created by plarium

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PrimeGuardian
16 July, 2015, 5:39 AM UTC

today 24 position all clear, and there is no big reward and lose 1.4m defensive and 800k offensive

COME ON plarium, are you kidding me.....24 position from level 35 to 68 not even 1 big reward appear and yet all my army lose at the bank without a proper payout

you did say 5-6 position will get big reward how come i never get big reward from the 24 position of various level 35-68.....now i don't have anymore position to hit, if tomorow you guy didn't pay back the 1.4m def and 800k offensive i loses, mark my word i will quit this and go play Dragon NEst

 

 

I never get so mad but today sure light my anger up so badly.....all those promise about hitting 4-5 position with big reward is total LIE

 

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PrimeGuardian
16 July, 2015, 6:10 AM UTC

Oh God.....just for this 2 day position event look at the loses unit pilling up......is this what you wanna see, how miserable ending.....

17035 persian point from this 3 day of non stop clearing all the position, ended up losing 1.4m defensive of Trojan/mounted peltast l20 and 800k of agema l5 +macedonia l6 cavalry...not worth the cost at all.

 

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K4ne
16 July, 2015, 12:27 PM UTC

seriously give us bank counter so we see how much we need to invest to get payout this is too complicated to calculate i miss payouts on lvl 70+ positions then i hit lowest psoitions to spawn higher lvl ones and i get on thos like lvl 30-40 ones payouts which is total bshyt and when i get on lowest ones payout i go back invest to high one this payout + bilion troops more and i overbank the last payout for sure but i dont get payout on a high lvl position again, costed me now 2.4 milion offense and 700k def by doing that either give us old system back or give us counter like i said in previous posts i didnt start to play this game to do highschool maths 20 years after i finished school i started to play it to have fun and this is only frustrating theres no fun in it at all... 

 

http://gyazo.com/8567c494ce15f32a47800296e912eb1b

 http://gyazo.com/ce3b60a3624763489118f16c8c2ac69f

thats only 70% and pvp i did with 250 agemas so deduct 30% from that 250...

 

payout lvl 67 posiiton before this lame update

 

http://gyazo.com/815a7158ca73698cdd78d8c5ad133385

 

only "big" and that big is just rofl payout i got on all this troops sacrificed showed in link above (my infirmary)

 

http://gyazo.com/ddf444e806554a8b953917ca968c7015

 

all rest troops are gone in 3 days of hitting persians ( let me remind you this is only 70% of actuall loss and i marked def horses coz i lost 535 on persians)

you can calculate urself im tired of maths like i said before i was having fun now im back in highschool doing maths that doesnt work thinking to quit simply due the fact that plarium actually dont listen to his gamers then its making incredible excusses why they changed and ruined persians the - top thing in this game, i work partially as casino consultant and i have bigger odds in casino when i put money in to get jackpot then to get a decent payout on this new persian system.

enough said i wish you all good luck.

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Basileus Leonidas
16 July, 2015, 2:31 PM UTC

 

cruz said:

THE PLARUIM PEOPLE DID NOT TELL US THE GAME WAS CHANGING AND WE PUT OUR GUYS IN AND THE REWARDS RESET

Dear Cruz and all honorable Archons who raised their concerns towards the point, that Plarium hasn't informed us about changes in advance, first of all, thank you for sharing your opinions on the Forum. Your feedback has a high value for us and we appreciate that you care about Sparta: War of Empires as much as we do.

All the changes that we provide are aimed to the game improvement and prosperity, we introduce new features and updates that keep the game interesting, engaging and challenging. Each update consists of a huge work of all the departments at all the stages from its concept, developing and testing up to the final stage of the feature release.

Even after the final release we don’t stop monitoring the feature and accept possibility of further changes.

Hamero said:

NOW my point is :::::: you didn't let us know that you were planning to do that

Dave8872 said:

I can understand the changes for new players but when you change it for the older players that have spent time money resources working out the system without any warning you really have stepped over the line.

Hamero and Dave, we are aware that hitting Persian Positions is the most popular feature of the game. There are so many strategies, tactics, approaches developed by players for players, and certain myths regarding Positions. All kind of updates that apply to Positons in any way are causing active discussions and quite opposite opinions.

We couldn't afford to confuse players by letting know about changes which they wouldn't be able to test in advance. Please notice that we haven't changed the battle algorithm or other important Positions' components except for payout system.

I would like to remind you what has happenned:

- Every Persian Position now gives a payout,

- Your 'big reward' hasn't been removed upon update, it is only distributed differently,

- You total reward has remained the same,

- The Positions 'bank' hasn't been reset,

- Now the travel time to all Positions is 1 minute.

I would also like to notice that we removed the 30% position retreat feature from the game upon players' request in few days after the update.

Believe me, our developers are just the same game fans who are inspired by the world gaming industry. We live in our projects and we support them totally. And we are always open to discussions and suggestions.

PrimeGuardian said:

I never get so mad but today sure light my anger up so badly.....all those promise about hitting 4-5 position with big reward is total LIE

PrimeGuardian, I wholeheartedly apologize that I am unable to teach players how to hit Positions. Please remember that Sparta is strategic game, all players are on different stage of their progress here. For someone it is only 4-5 Positions till the 'big reward', for someone it may be more or even less than that.

Just as a reminder, here is the link to the Positions test -> link.

Archons, you all know how to contact me, so whenever you want to discuss the game or give constructive suggestion, feel free to do so.

Thank you!

War doesn't determine who is right - only who is left.
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ARES
16 July, 2015, 6:47 PM UTC

big brother, is very easy, if you really want to be fair with us, to solve this issue:

make a simple bank win / loses indicator

who inform us real time what stage we are and when we must weak / hit that position for big reward. is really simple and show respect to people who put a lot of money and work in your game.

we reach 110% then we hit and win = more fun!

What is you answer , please, roulette or a fair game?

or give us back all our investment in persian positions and delete that option, is not fair to say after 110% we receive our big reward again and, i , for example, have no more full payout from over 30 positions!

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Amphimachos
16 July, 2015, 6:53 PM UTC

PLAYERS WANT 1 THING ABOUT PP AND YOU KEEP IGNORING IT

GAIN MORE THAN WHAT THEY LOSE

PERSIAN POSITIONS WAS A 'FREE' WAY TO REFILL THEIR ARMIES WITHOUT SPENDING MONEY FOR DRACHMAS

SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY AND YOU SHOULD GIVE THEM THE CHOICE TO REPLENISH THEIR ARMY FREE OF CHARGE

 

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Amphimachos
16 July, 2015, 7:00 PM UTC

ALSO YOU SHOULD ONLY REWARD PLAYERS WITH PHALANX UNITS AND CAVALRY AT PP BECAUSE THEY COST A LOT OF RESOURCES AND TIME TO BUILD

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 1:47 AM UTC

Yesterday lose 1.4m and 800k offensive to bank

Today 1st position lost 177 thuerephoros and 47 jav, Junk reward

2nd Def Position Lose 348 Thuere from the 1st def position added up, junk reward

 

3rd Def Position lost 500+ phalanx added from the 2nd reward unit, Failed Run, Sending in the rest of the defensive army

3rd Def Position 2nd time defending, lose 560 Phalanx added up from previous attempt, 300+ Mp reward calculated Lose 40% defensive from 1+2+3 attempt, Mid Reward

4th Def Position send in the rest of the left over phalanx to weaken the position before sending the Calvary, failed run

4th Def Position, lose 203 mounted peltast to get 146 trojan, junk reward

5th Def Position, send in the 4th reward unit to weaken the position, failed run

final attempt lose254 mounted peltast for 112 mounted peltast ( are you kidding me) JUNK REWARD

Round figure on defensive position i have lose another 1.5m defensive of various type from jav+cretan+thuere+trojan+mounted peltast

added to the bank from yesterday loses 1.4m+1.5m total of 2.9m defensive loses and 800k offensive

So Leonidas or plarium, is this enough proof you wanted so much, where is the BIG REWARD, all those position i hit never even got BIG REWARD, yesterday 24 psoition of def+offensive now another 5 more high level defensive position with 6 offensive at below..

Plarium and leonidas, you are a big fat LIER

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 1:49 AM UTC

 

The offensive part no need to count, total loses....... about 1-1.4m offensive lose added with previous 800k total of 2-2.2m offensive loses.

Added up total of 10 position i have complete today and yet there is NO BIG REWARD like leonidas game master say, if you guy still believe this kind of crap, keep spending in those money, you end up like mine.

Original army strength i have is 950k offensive and 4.8m defensive, now i have 0 offensive and 2.3m defensive in city....good work plarium, you sure know how to fuk up people.

yesterday 12 offensive position (level 39-68) + today 5 offensive position total of 17 with no big reward

Yesterday 12 defensive position (level 44 to level 67) + today 5 more high level position also with NO BIG REWARD

 

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 5:10 AM UTC

From the persian event till today, i never gotten a BIG REWARD at all.

from my point of view, with so many loses at persian position, each day the game reset, all the bank unit loses also being reset back to 0 to avoid paying out the big reward from various attempt.

how many time i try, there is no way a persian position will split out 4 to 5m worth of reward unit that i have lose till now from those persiaon position.

alway getting those low reward again and again that were today unit i lose and never gotten back the unit i lose before.

 

Leonidas Game master, you're new persian position system + after removing the 30% return unit still SUXS.

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bluext08
17 July, 2015, 6:10 AM UTC

PrimeGuardian said:

From the persian event till today, i never gotten a BIG REWARD at all.

from my point of view, with so many loses at persian position, each day the game reset, all the bank unit loses also being reset back to 0 to avoid paying out the big reward from various attempt.

how many time i try, there is no way a persian position will split out 4 to 5m worth of reward unit that i have lose till now from those persiaon position.

alway getting those low reward again and again that were today unit i lose and never gotten back the unit i lose before.

 

Leonidas Game master, you're new persian position system + after removing the 30% return unit still SUXS.

Your big reward was when you raid lvl 40 persian stronghold  294 Promachos  and 58 Thureophoros   (~ 3.4 mil resources lvl 40 reward)

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 6:45 AM UTC

bluext08 said:

PrimeGuardian said:

From the persian event till today, i never gotten a BIG REWARD at all.

from my point of view, with so many loses at persian position, each day the game reset, all the bank unit loses also being reset back to 0 to avoid paying out the big reward from various attempt.

how many time i try, there is no way a persian position will split out 4 to 5m worth of reward unit that i have lose till now from those persiaon position.

alway getting those low reward again and again that were today unit i lose and never gotten back the unit i lose before.

 

Leonidas Game master, you're new persian position system + after removing the 30% return unit still SUXS.

Your big reward was when you raid lvl 40 persian stronghold  294 Promachos  and 58 Thureophoros   (~ 3.4 mil resources lvl 40 reward)

Did you event check the [previous loses before today, try to read the statement.

you try add up those 300 promachos with the resource see if it even close to 2.4m defensive and 1.2m offensive of value

check from the defensive position how many unit i lose and total up those loses and compare with this 300 promachos+res reward, it not even close to the total loses at defensive position.

after you done calculating, check back the previous lose and added up the final, there is no profit.

plus 300 promachos is not even consider a big reward, the big reward normally comewith 500 phalanx + and 1000+ phalanx defensive for my persian level.

 

if you find it hard to count i let you count today loses

550 mounted peltast

940 thuerephoros

190 cretan

250 agema

90 macedonia.

that is the number i lose today, and u try count if that 300 promachos even close to the total loses today

actually it not! that reward only 30% of the total loses for today that i claim, so where is the 70% loses gone to?

plus where is my previous loses gone just yesterday of 1.4m defensive of phalanx+mounted peltast and 800k offensive of agema + macedonian

 

i hit position because Leonidas inform me that different player with different good payout, instead it a whole fuking lie, the system still running at losing method, never earn and never will regain what you lose. total of 34 position i have hit and still i lose 2.4m defensive and 1.2m offensive.....fuk that.

i really hate this game after the new system guarantee added in.

the old system i only hit 4-6 position to get big reward of what i lose, and now it paying me back some lunatic and force me to keep hitting the rest of the position without knowing when will the big reward appear.

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 7:06 AM UTC

before i start running this persian position, my city running at +650 grain at 89% grain consumption deduction

after listen to leonidas with his magic words during the persian event, now im running at +1578 grain production under 89% grain deduction

1578 - 650=928 grain loses

1x cavalry eat 0.28 grain

928 grain divided by 0.28 grain consumption from a cavalry = 3314 cavalry unit

3314 unit x 850.3 base defensive of a mounted peltast at level 20 agreement with level 5 elixir = 2817894.2 defensive

total of 2.8m defensive lose, so simple counting.

 

simple counting like this you also don't know, best you jump off a cliff and stop lecturing me.

 

even if i keep hitting those persian position, there no way 3314 cavalry payout at l40-60, only appear at l70 + persia position.

there not even army left to hit any of those if the bank swallow you're 2.8m and never pay you back some.

an level 60 defensive position need at least 400k defensive amount to clear.....i hate this game so much i wanna tear the browser off

 

 

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PrimeGuardian
17 July, 2015, 7:31 AM UTC

here is the cavalry loses information

haven't count the 1300 thuerephoros and 400 trojan with various cretan archer and javeline.

Thanks alot plarium for destroying my city, im really feed up with this plarium

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AJAX
17 July, 2015, 8:36 AM UTC

plarium intention is easy: you put more money inside, they reset the bank for you, temporary, after that, if put no more money, you will no more see your big reward, even if you are over 110% bank limit, so, great leonida, you made that game only for your pocket, but destroy our fun = you will remain without players soon, and believe me, your pocket will be empty, and not full! be fair to your investors and let the game free , every idiot can calculate your 110% and see that is a big lie, we receive full payout only if we spend money, or if system allow us a "good day", just for test if we become for you the golden litlle pigs or not, then we will see that day very rare again! that is a big cheat , and shame plarium for that, money is not all in this world!

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