VIP Cities?

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fightclubfan.33
27 November, 2017, 11:57 PM UTC

I saw a post the other day (from Lostblksheep) asking about something he saw after being it at an emporium, a plaque(wings behind player info). I read all the posts that responded and most of them stated that it was a designator for VIP players achieving 2 years of play. My question is about how does one become a VIP player. I mean is this just another Plarium scheme to get people to spend money, or is it obtainable from in game efforts.

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Skulder
28 November, 2017, 10:45 AM UTC
fightclubfan.33 said:

I saw a post the other day (from Lostblksheep) asking about something he saw after being it at an emporium, a plaque(wings behind player info). I read all the posts that responded and most of them stated that it was a designator for VIP players achieving 2 years of play. My question is about how does one become a VIP player. I mean  is this just another Plarium scheme to get people to spend money, or is it obtainable from in game efforts.

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Ashu
28 November, 2017, 1:31 PM UTC

Plarium's V.I.P program employees are those who choose players which are eligible for the program.


The eligibility criteria is undefined, but in my opinion, those players are chosen who contribute for an active and competitive game. For example, active participation in pvps, persians, communication in the coalition etc. Moderate amount of coining or at least a few packs buyed here and there also count.

But in the end it depends upon the decision of the V.I.P program team.

This is not a scheme to spend money but a service which provides premium support to those who are it's members. Though they do give challenges now and then to it's members, and on it's completion, a reward is given.

In game effort would increase your chances at V.I.P but not guarantee membership. 

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Dimitri Molchanov
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28 November, 2017, 2:21 PM UTC
A very good explanation all in all, Ashu, thank you. The only thing I would like to comment on is the in-game purchases. Those do not really contribute to whether a player is chosen for the VIP program as far as I know, and we have VIP players who have not spent a penny on anything in the game. What is absolutely spot on, however, is that being active in the game, doing well in Tournaments and Weekly rankings increase your chances of being considered for the VIP program.
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Ashu
29 November, 2017, 8:26 AM UTC
You are Welcome Dimitri
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HotSM
1 December, 2017, 4:41 AM UTC

how often do they add people to the vip program?


do you know when they will add more people?


the vip members i know tell me the rewards for vip are many - almost to be dis-balancing to the game. 

I hear of the many many things that they recieve, but information on becoming one is confusing and contradictory at best.


people that get punished for multi accounting are vip

people that do not log daily, or do not participate in events are vip

there seem to be more hedges that are vip than not

and vip seem to be very high level cities


can you give us any hints at what the requirements are?

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Dimitri Molchanov
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1 December, 2017, 8:34 AM UTC
I have described the main requirements in a post above, so I hope you forgive me for just copying it 

A very good explanation all in all, Ashu, thank you. The only thing I would like to comment on is the in-game purchases. Those do not really contribute to whether a player is chosen for the VIP program as far as I know, and we have VIP players who have not spent a penny on anything in the game. What is absolutely spot on, however, is that being active in the game, doing well in Tournaments and Weekly rankings increase your chances of being considered for the VIP program.
At the moment VIP program only gets new players to replace those who are removed from the program for one reason or the other. I have no ETA on its expansion.
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Lanfear
4 December, 2017, 3:59 PM UTC

You say that in-game purchases do not factor into  membership ... but how do you rank in the tournaments and weekly ranks without spending?

Is it even possible to rank high in weekly ranks without spending?

I am certain that you can not rank high in tourneys without spending.


I am not against spending - i believe in giving back to the game - it is what makes new development possible - but if it is a factor please tell us so.


Is there nothing more you can tell us?

Is there a city level needed?  Do you need to to do well in the global tourney rank, or just your own division?

Do you need to have been playing sparta for a given length of time?  How long?

Does activity in the forums mean anything for selection?

Surly there is someone on the vip program team that can provide some sort of information?

I would hate to miss being selected because i was not aware of some requirement i was lacking or had overlooked.




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Agrippa
6 December, 2017, 5:54 PM UTC

Yes - your assessment is correct.  Only people that spend will place well in rankings and tournaments.

just keeping in the top 100 of most events without spending a mint is almost impossible.  To replace lost resources and troops after is crippling for non spenders....you will only do it once.


Yes ... V.I.P. gives a huge advantage to its members.


special troops only for vip, special city schema that is better than anything we can purchase (for free), special tourneys only vip can play in,(often with amazing rewards much better than any offered to normal players), free stuff, advanced notice on events, discounts, new pans, and the ability to ask questions similar to the once a week "ask a palarium cm" anytime you wish .... 


Like most games - this is a pay to win platform.

Unlike most pay to win games this one is more about gambling then purchasing a victory, and vip status is something not worth spending to gain - it is a bad wager at best - you can (and probably will) invest a lot of time and money with zero guarantee of a payout.  You are better to put your efforts into something that is guaranteed a benefit and leave the v.i.p. bonuses for the chosen of palarium - what ever the sneeky secret status they use might be.


Even persian positions are a better gamble - however the people that use it constantly and know much more about it than me seem to feel it is also a bad wager these days - but still one of the best ways to improve your troop count quickly.  again assuming you are willing to spend to replace lost units.



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Dorieas
6 December, 2017, 7:50 PM UTC

Lanfear said:


You say that in-game purchases do not factor into  membership ... but how do you rank in the tournaments and weekly ranks without spending?

Is it even possible to rank high in weekly ranks without spending?

I am certain that you can not rank high in tourneys without spending.


I am not against spending - i believe in giving back to the game - it is what makes new development possible - but if it is a factor please tell us so.


Is there nothing more you can tell us?

Is there a city level needed?  Do you need to to do well in the global tourney rank, or just your own division?

Do you need to have been playing sparta for a given length of time?  How long?

Does activity in the forums mean anything for selection?

Surly there is someone on the vip program team that can provide some sort of information?

I would hate to miss being selected because i was not aware of some requirement i was lacking or had overlooked.


Yes its possible to rank at least in the weekly rankings without spenting... Especially on raid and tribute rankings... 


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Ididicus
8 December, 2017, 4:33 AM UTC

Dorieas  - that is nonsense.


To place in the weekly rankings will require a serious investment. That is why it is the same people that rank over and over again.

Players have zero chance of making the raid rankings unless they invested in other tourneys - a lot of them with serious investment.  No one has a chance if they have not spent the gp to max galleys ... they need to have the upgrade sketches to max several buildings like port and galley, they need the troops and resources to replace troops lost in said raids - and it truly helps to have hidden paths, or the ability to move your city about.


with out these investments you believe someone can be competitive in a raid situation?


seriously?

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Dorieas
8 December, 2017, 3:56 PM UTC

Ididicus said:


Dorieas  - that is nonsense.


To place in the weekly rankings will require a serious investment. That is why it is the same people that rank over and over again.

Players have zero chance of making the raid rankings unless they invested in other tourneys - a lot of them with serious investment.  No one has a chance if they have not spent the gp to max galleys ... they need to have the upgrade sketches to max several buildings like port and galley, they need the troops and resources to replace troops lost in said raids - and it truly helps to have hidden paths, or the ability to move your city about.


with out these investments you believe someone can be competitive in a raid situation?


seriously?

Hi Ididicus... 

I supposed everyone of us, still playing this game put a small ammount of his credit card to improove city invests but that doesnt automatically make him a coiner... Anyway to invest in Gp you need to participate to tourneys, you dont need money... Scetches also but you need to wait long time so is better to spent some money to buy some to invest in Port and Harbour (till lvl 23 both), you dont need more... But the money you put on port and harbour you ll take it back in future in drahmas if you win the 1st spot twice per month (once i won it 3 times per month)... Instant Recalls you can win it from tournaments... You dont need any relocations and you dont need to raid active cities to loose army... If you are a Raider you avoid those kind of troubles because in a potential attacking to yr city, you put yr ranking in danger...  Raid, Siege and Tribute ranking is the cheapest ways to win money without killing army and money... There are thousand farms on Sparta to  raid or siege... 

The only problem on  Raid Ranking is: this time are running useless Raiders... They use more IR then it needs to use... That means Raid Ranking spots arent profitable anymore... What I mean... Some of them are using more then 17 IR to win the 1st spot as the competition is getting harder and harder.. So people using 17 IR even if they win the 1st spot actually are minus -100 Drhs.. (17 IR x 300 Drhs = 5100 Drhs)... They run and spent time for nothing... I never seen so many brainless raiders in Sparta... 

Anyway, with my return to revive Guerilla, I promise to them we ll run every week on raid rankings... Till I grow again the coal as before the 1st spot has no interesting cos it ll be occupied by a Guerilla member... In 3 months when more raiders join us. then all 3 first spots they ll have been occupied by Guerilla members and in one year all the first 10 spots it ll be blue... Till all raiders come in an agreement and we dont use more then 5 IR per week we ll use our new raid trick and IR it ll be waste of money for them... As you can see on raid  rankings we start this week even if some of our opponents thay have add raids from the ex flag tournament...
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Skulder
8 December, 2017, 4:24 PM UTC
Dorieas   , you want to tell me that have  that amount of resources without   using the buff advantage from the last week -because more then sure that's not true because  only   10 one day raids where available if u don't had buffs ?? Also  what IR means  , you have an translation  of that term :)   Also  why  you blame  others because from what i see  you also use drachmas  if u get there  like i'm thinking :)) 
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Dorieas
8 December, 2017, 4:58 PM UTC

Skulder said:


Dorieas   , you want to tell me that have  that amount of resources without   using the buff advantage from the last week -because more then sure that's not true because  only   10 one day raids where available if u don't had buffs ?? Also  what IR means  , you have an translation  of that term :)   Also  why  you blame  others because from what i see  you also use drachmas  if u get there  like i'm thinking :)) 

I watch yr performance last week Skulder (one of the advantage to be a good Raider is to watch the game style of your opponents among others) and I confirm you that my personal record and Sparta record on raid rankings was 19,5 m resources in a week with exactly same additional raid your coal had from flag tournament... 

Now at least I m happy someone as you, dont use the IR (Instant Recalls)... But to have a fair competition as other raiders they use them I ll explain you, IR are the most important advantage to win the raid rankings... All of that, till now... I m pretty sure after 3 months monotony (the 1st spot been won from Guerilla), Plarium it ll discover something else such as IR, or Flag Tournament to make the competion interesting again...Then we ll brake it again as we ll discover another trick to win the competiton again... 

By the way we are working on PP and we almost next to brake Xerxes logarithm... But that it ll cost expencive for players they want to know it...
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Dorieas
8 December, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

By the way, Skulder read this on forum to understand how IR working and the Raid ranking records...  

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/coalitions/36817_thessaloniki----the-capital-of-raid-ranking----/

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Skulder
8 December, 2017, 5:19 PM UTC

Dorieas said:


By the way, Skulder read this on forum to understand how IR working and the Raid ranking records...  

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/coalitions/36817_thessaloniki----the-capital-of-raid-ranking----/

 thank you  will read   it ..and i think  after you  speak about  instant recall i think it's something about using that boost wich cost  300  drachmas and didn't worth it .. and i think it's possible reaching 19 M .if u apply the maximum the buff only on raids   ... last week  lost a lot of raids because i was so much ahead and  i attack randomly  or some  "friends" because   it's tiryng to search so many targets   .. you forget to  add that takes a lot of time also :) 

p.s. these week i lost  17 raids   ... 15 from the buffs i didn't send them  and two   because of glitches when my game stuck  or  galley trick didn't work :)) ..wanted two weeks in the row on first place  ..but  that's the game :) 

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Dorieas
8 December, 2017, 5:26 PM UTC
Skulder said:

Dorieas said:


By the way, Skulder read this on forum to understand how IR working and the Raid ranking records...  

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/coalitions/36817_thessaloniki----the-capital-of-raid-ranking----/

 thank you  will read   it ..and i think  after you  speak about  instant recall i think it's something about using that boost wich cost  300  drachmas and didn't worth it .. and i think it's possible reaching 19 M .if u apply the maximum the buff only on raids   ... last week  lost a lot of raids because i was so much ahead and  i attack randomly  or some  "friends" because   it's tyring to search so many targets   .. you forget to  add that takes a lot of time also :) 

p.s. these week i lost  17 raids   ... 15 from the buffs i didn't send them  and two   because of glitches when my game stuck  or  galley trick didn't work :)) ..wanted two weeks in the row on first place  ..but  that's the game :) 

You need to be focus when you raid... Thats important... But even with those 17 additional raids you lost you couldnt beat me... I have more raids on hand... If I win the next flag tournament I ll go for an unbeatable record on rankings... 
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Skulder
8 December, 2017, 5:43 PM UTC

Didn't understand how to use those boosts to have something to win from using them ,but  better for me ...   will not use them anyhow ...anyhow  me   i'm going only for top 10 for the achievment


p.s. If all worked fine for me now i should have  8,6 M resources now  .I i have now 4 raids left  now +17  lost  =2 ,1 M  resources at my current one  ..i was there ..but of course if u are going to use those recall not an chance :)) 



Good  luck in the next capture the flag tournament :) 

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Dorieas
8 December, 2017, 7:11 PM UTC
You don't use yr IR daily but only on Saturday or Sunday.. That gives you some more raids on hands...
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Lanfear
9 December, 2017, 4:50 AM UTC

So you are saying that someone like me can compete and place well in the raids rank if i get my port and galleys to level 23?


For me, this something that i can accomplish, but it is an expense.   

Are you a vip already?

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