Persian Positions - Small Payout Query

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Ashu
7 September, 2017, 2:27 PM UTC

Small Payout Adjustments in the Persian bank

I Need a bit of help in here. When we complete a position before accumulating enough resources for the big payout we get a small reward. Does this small reward make our bank bigger? 

For example I have a bank of 10k resources + 1k interest, then I complete a position before hitting this bank value and I get a reward worth 2k resources. My query is does my final bank value become:-

 1. 10k resources + 1k(interest) + 2k resources(small rew) + 0.2k resources(interest on rew) = 13.2k (current bank)      and the next bank being 13.2k + 1.32 interest?

 2. 10k resources + 1k(interest) + 2k resources(small rew) = 13k (current bank)      and the next bank being 13k + 1.3 interest?

 3. 10k resources + 1k(interest) + 2k resources(small rew) + 0.2k resources(interest on rew) = 13.2k (current bank)     and the next bank being 11k + 1.1k interest?

 4. 10k resources + 1k(interest) + 2k resources(small rew) = 13k (current bank)         and the next bank being 11k + 1.1k interest?

  5. 10k resources + 1k(interest) + 2k resources(small rew) + 0.2k resources(interest on rew) = 13.2k (current bank)       and the next bank being 11k + 1.1k interest + 0.2k interest of small reward?


Thanks.

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RIX
7 September, 2017, 8:06 PM UTC

It does not increase a payout at all.


The only way your payout may increase is if you hit a higher position than your payout is scheduled for.  Each position has a maximum amount it pays.  If you hit a higher position than the last for the payout, you will either get a payout value of the last level you won it on or it will increase your debt to cover the diffence in levels.

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Ashu
8 September, 2017, 12:43 AM UTC
RIX said:

It does not increase a payout at all.


The only way your payout may increase is if you hit a higher position than your payout is scheduled for.  Each position has a maximum amount it pays.  If you hit a higher position than the last for the payout, you will either get a payout value of the last level you won it on or it will increase your debt to cover the diffence in levels.

Sorry, I do not mean increase in Payout, I mean increase in the Bank. I will edit the above post.
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Dracos
8 September, 2017, 12:54 AM UTC
Anything won from a position is taken away from bank not added to it. So if you win 2k rss before big payout then your big payout is 2k rss less than it would've been due to the small reward.
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Ashu
8 September, 2017, 4:20 AM UTC

Dracos said:


Anything won from a position is taken away from bank not added to it. So if you win 2k rss before big payout then your big payout is 2k rss less than it would've been due to the small reward.

Yes, the small payout reduces the big payout, but my question is how the bank's current and future size behaves in this. If we take away the small reward system the bank should increase by a interest(a bit variable for confusing us) on a fixed principal.

Now if we add the small reward, does the interest generate in the small reward too? or do they add up with the previous principal bank to create an even bigger bank? or does the principal and interest only change when we hit the big payout?
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IOANNIS TSIAMANTANIS
8 September, 2017, 5:55 PM UTC

Example

Last payout= 10000

Target Bank resources= 10000+10% =11000 (I think 10% interest is small)


0:Current bank = 0

1:you hit-win a level and lost troops of 2000 res value and get a reward of 1000 in res value

   Current bank = 2000-1000=1000

2:You hit-win a level and lost troops of 1500 res value and get a reward of 500 in res value

   Current bank = 1000+1500-500=2000

3:…

4:…

x:... 

Current bank =10000 +2000-1000=11000


Next position might give a big payout of 10000+ in res value


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Ashu
11 September, 2017, 2:40 AM UTC

IOANNIS TSIAMANTANIS said:


Example

Last payout= 10000

Target Bank resources= 10000+10% =11000 (I think 10% interest is small)


0:Current bank = 0

1:you hit-win a level and lost troops of 2000 res value and get a reward of 1000 in res value

   Current bank = 2000-1000=1000

2:You hit-win a level and lost troops of 1500 res value and get a reward of 500 in res value

   Current bank = 1000+1500-500=2000

3:…

4:…

x:... 

Current bank =10000 +2000-1000=11000


Next position might give a big payout of 10000+ in res value


Thank you for your response.

So, that means there is no increase in principal bank when we get small payout. But you said the interest varies, could you tell me please if you have to pay a higher interest when you clear a lot of positions before hitting the big payout value or its the same even if you reach the big payout value with less positions completed.

This might answer the query on whether clearing small rewards adds up interest in the bank.
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IOANNIS TSIAMANTANIS
13 September, 2017, 10:26 PM UTC

Ashu said:


IOANNIS TSIAMANTANIS said:


Example

Last payout= 10000

Target Bank resources= 10000+10% =11000 (I think 10% interest is small)


0:Current bank = 0

1:you hit-win a level and lost troops of 2000 res value and get a reward of 1000 in res value

   Current bank = 2000-1000=1000

2:You hit-win a level and lost troops of 1500 res value and get a reward of 500 in res value

   Current bank = 1000+1500-500=2000

3:…

4:…

x:... 

Current bank =10000 +2000-1000=11000


Next position might give a big payout of 10000+ in res value


Thank you for your response.

So, that means there is no increase in principal bank when we get small payout. But you said the interest varies, could you tell me please if you have to pay a higher interest when you clear a lot of positions before hitting the big payout value or its the same even if you reach the big payout value with less positions completed.

This might answer the query on whether clearing small rewards adds up interest in the bank.

In my opinion/experience the number of cleared positions before the payout is not relevant to the interest needed in order to get the big payout and nobody knows exactly how much the needed interest is.

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