Persian Positions are NOT working

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RIX forum RETIRED
6 September, 2017, 2:46 PM UTC
Hi All! 

Persians have not been working correctly ever since the last Great Position Takeover tourney

There haven't been any calculated payouts and I personally am over 300% past my repayment with no payout.

I have spoken to others that are 50-70 million in troop loss and way way beyond their payout mark.

Anyone else having issues?

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VodkaRedBull
6 September, 2017, 5:32 PM UTC
i did get payouts but first i had to lose approx 90 million to then get a few smaller payout and in the end my lose is 25 million + 
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RIX forum RETIRED
6 September, 2017, 6:41 PM UTC

VodkaRedBull said:


i did get payouts but first i had to lose approx 90 million to then get a few smaller payout and in the end my lose is 25 million + 

I am getting the same. Small payouts no where equal to my loss.



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Canis Lupus
7 September, 2017, 5:04 AM UTC

Rix...I don't normally give away secrets for free, but you seem like a nice guy so I'm going to give you the secret to winning big against Persians. It's a 5 step method so get a pen and paper and write this down....it will change your Sparta experience and maybe even change the dynamics of Sparta as a whole.

Step 1: Calculate your total strength of both your offense and defense

Step 2: Insert your entire army, both offense and defense, into the persian bank. Yes!! Until nothing is left.

Step 3: Go to the nearest grocery store and buy rice, peanut butter, one of those big jugs of distilled water (this will be your meals for the next month...add some bananas if you have kids), and a bottle of vodka.

Step 4: Drink the bottle of vodka (such an important step) until your actually dumb enough to spend real money on this game

Step 5: Go to the revive tab and revive the 50 million that you lost....clear a position 140 or higher and BOOM!!!! 10 million payout! After a couple months you'll be a beast the likes the hellas have never seen!


There ya go bud! Clear instructions on how to dominate this game. Hope it helps. Look me up in game if you have any questions!

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tsunwu85rsa
7 September, 2017, 5:26 AM UTC
lol 
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The Punisher
7 September, 2017, 6:33 AM UTC
Canis Lupus , one of the best replies i have seen , LMAO.
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
7 September, 2017, 9:03 AM UTC
RIX said:

Hi All! 

Persians have not been working correctly ever since the last Great Position Takeover tourney

There haven't been any calculated payouts and I personally am over 300% past my repayment with no payout.

I have spoken to others that are 50-70 million in troop loss and way way beyond their payout mark.

Anyone else having issues?

No changes were made to PPs. If you think that something went wrong, I could check your PP logs for you to make sure that everything goes well. I'll just need some dates of your last figths that you consider broken:)
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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Tai Pan
7 September, 2017, 11:19 AM UTC

hey everyone


i agree with all above posted messages. persian sition payouts are definitely broken. i rarely post anything on the forum; but this time its so bad i feel i have to post this. initially, i thought its the usual case of plarium rigging persian positions during big tournaments so i didnt pay much heed. but now this is getting out of hand
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RIX forum RETIRED
7 September, 2017, 11:46 AM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


RIX said:


Hi All! 

Persians have not been working correctly ever since the last Great Position Takeover tourney

There haven't been any calculated payouts and I personally am over 300% past my repayment with no payout.

I have spoken to others that are 50-70 million in troop loss and way way beyond their payout mark.

Anyone else having issues?

No changes were made to PPs. If you think that something went wrong, I could check your PP logs for you to make sure that everything goes well. I'll just need some dates of your last figths that you consider broken:)

We are telling you nicely, it's broken. Ever since you added the last 5 levels or the last great position takeover (cannot recall which), it's not working properly.  I wish more voices would come on here and let you know.  I am but one man and I make the appearance that it is specifically me with the issue but it is game wide.


The strategy is not broken, the payouts are.  One could play persians daily without losing their army and not necessarily net again, but retain army at a break even, get medals to break and earn pvp. Repeat daily for month. NOW nothing. LOSE everything.
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Mick13000
7 September, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC

Canis Lupus said:


Rix...I don't normally give away secrets for free, but you seem like a nice guy so I'm going to give you the secret to winning big against Persians. It's a 5 step method so get a pen and paper and write this down....it will change your Sparta experience and maybe even change the dynamics of Sparta as a whole.

Step 1: Calculate your total strength of both your offense and defense

Step 2: Insert your entire army, both offense and defense, into the persian bank. Yes!! Until nothing is left.

Step 3: Go to the nearest grocery store and buy rice, peanut butter, one of those big jugs of distilled water (this will be your meals for the next month...add some bananas if you have kids), and a bottle of vodka.

Step 4: Drink the bottle of vodka (such an important step) until your actually dumb enough to spend real money on this game

Step 5: Go to the revive tab and revive the 50 million that you lost....clear a position 140 or higher and BOOM!!!! 10 million payout! After a couple months you'll be a beast the likes the hellas have never seen!


There ya go bud! Clear instructions on how to dominate this game. Hope it helps. Look me up in game if you have any questions!



With my most sincere apologies Canis-You are incorrect. Here's an updated guide on how to dominate this game:


1.) Calculate time on game (hours spent playing)


2.) Calculate a specific unit (Agema for example) So, 200,000 Agemas X 3 hours= 68.4931507 years


3.) Raid until your resources are full to 100% capacity


4.) Build Agemas-Nothing else.


5.) Repeat as long as you are able to maintain a balance. Make sure you are able to get internet access in the retirement home to maintain your builds well into old age.


6.) WARNING: Consuming alcohol may induce credit card "discombobulation"-removing credit card from wallet will induce and disturb the game balance.


Note: Your "payout" may vary and will be dependent on your scroll level as well as the longevity of the time needed to build 200,000 Agema's

Factor in real life (wife, kids, car, job etc..) There is a "game balance" that  exists and it can't be changed.


Note: From time to time you will get discounts on fortifications, sketches and EVEN a 40% discount on troops. This may cut down on the 68 year build time figure as stated above.


Good Luck & Happy Hunting





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RIX forum RETIRED
7 September, 2017, 7:57 PM UTC
LOL
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rome
7 September, 2017, 11:37 PM UTC

to alyona - are you kidding me.???  you say it does not change Really.??? funny to hear. it has changed over the past few months

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
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8 September, 2017, 9:24 AM UTC

rome said:


to alyona - are you kidding me.???  you say it does not change Really.??? funny to hear. it has changed over the past few months

As I said - no changes were made over the past few month. The last change was more than a year ago! And it wasn't related to rewards. 

I guess nobody wants me to check their PPs as I don't see the info I asked for in my previous post. 

The fact that your strategies work differently on higher PP levels should not surprise you, since higher PP levels are stronger, possible rewards are bigger, and you may need some time to adjust.


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Alyona Kolomiitseva
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8 September, 2017, 9:55 AM UTC
Posted by one of our FB players

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cochinoxx
8 September, 2017, 9:56 AM UTC

this is a translation

to me the same happened to me and arrived in Persian 180 .... I thought the prize was going to come out there and did not give it to me in 180 or in the lower 5 .. I had calculated the expenditure on troops (about 50 mill power) I think that there has been some kind of adjustment or not ... really in my case is a disaster and I hope that at some point the game returns me part of the invested .... in troops .. since if it would not to think about playing after so much time ... I do not say that it has to be the prize 100% of the invested but can not be in the 20%



pd: 3 weeks ago copper prizes higher than more than 35 million attack power for 3 weeks have not managed to recover the invested either ...

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d3vnul
9 September, 2017, 4:26 PM UTC

Why do you keep showing us FB crap pictures since it's a totally different server , you only make us throw more dirt at plarium because even after all this extensive period of time you were not capable of introducing the same game mechanics to all servers (UnitXP especially !). Will it take another 500mil $ and years to develop/implement ? Come on ... A company that sells for hundreds of millions of dollars can't implement a simple feature like this in months ? This feature was announced on the forums at 26 April, 2017, 8:26 AM UTC


 And yes the payout were affected/changed , so did the game engine code. Invested 40mil off , 20mil def , payout about 30mil off , lost about 30mil , thank you so much. Maybe they work as always intended , like a real casino , they change the payout % when they want , so we could find days when maybe they have a 5-10% payout or days when there's a higher payout % , guess that's only internal info which can be passed to their closed loop circle of 'players'. The last change they made on the system was on the 6th of September.


No matter how many questions or evidence anyone will post on the forums , the mods/manager's only job is to keep players 'happy/blind'. It's also quite possible that they are also kept in the shadow about real game changes/mechanics.

As plarium was purchased by a gambling corporation , i guess now they are legally allowed to operate gambling in the game (persians!).
My opinion is that the gambling taking place on Persians was illegal before the selling to the new gambling corporation as you were not in a gambling business before the sale took place.

Sparta - War of Wallets - 2017 Edition
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Mick13000
9 September, 2017, 11:16 PM UTC

d3vnul said:


Why do you keep showing us FB crap pictures since it's a totally different server , you only make us throw more dirt at plarium because even after all this extensive period of time you were not capable of introducing the same game mechanics to all servers (UnitXP especially !). Will it take another 500mil $ and years to develop/implement ? Come on ... A company that sells for hundreds of millions of dollars can't implement a simple feature like this in months ? This feature was announced on the forums at 26 April, 2017, 8:26 AM UTC


 And yes the payout were affected/changed , so did the game engine code. Invested 40mil off , 20mil def , payout about 30mil off , lost about 30mil , thank you so much. Maybe they work as always intended , like a real casino , they change the payout % when they want , so we could find days when maybe they have a 5-10% payout or days when there's a higher payout % , guess that's only internal info which can be passed to their closed loop circle of 'players'.


No matter how many questions or evidence anyone will post on the forums , the mods/manager's only job is to keep players 'happy/blind'. It's also quite possible that they are also kept in the shadow about real game changes/mechanics.

As plarium was purchased by a gambling corporation , i guess now they are legally allowed to operate gambling in the game (persians!).
My opinion is that the gambling taking place on Persians was illegal before the selling to the new gambling corporation as you were not in a gambling business before the sale took place.

Brilliant Post!



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kazan
10 September, 2017, 5:54 AM UTC

if the game system is different between facebook and the one that is played outside of it .. is to compare tomatoes with baseballs ... you have to be more serious and at least not respond like headless hen ... many players play Both of them know that they are different.

I add to the answer given by d3vnul and I applaud its clarity.

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Tino fred paradiddle
10 September, 2017, 12:51 PM UTC
i've had less than satisfactory results from pp in the last couple of weeks also. i will leave them alone for a month or so & then return. this is not a complaint & i accept that we don't know ALL the ins & outs of pp, but for the record, in the last few weeks my rewards have been disappointing. 
it's all about money
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Roy Mah
10 September, 2017, 7:43 PM UTC

yes, there is a problem with pp payout past weeks. its very obvious and not the usual íts an unlucky day where you lose 15-20% of what you lose and get it back another day. its a consistent bleeding of your units everytime you engage pp. since its common knowledge that you will eventually recover your lost units, the player will hit the oracle more regularly. and then one day, 'BAM !' you will lose a big chunk.

one example : your average deposit is 200 mill so you deposit that number everyday you hit the pp. oracle pays you back 170-190 mill worth of units. thats fine, because its not a big loss. but then, you go to and fro 4-5 days and eventually you lose 50-60 mill resources worth of units. this is how they bleed you. but one day, when you deposit enough resources, it gives you a smallish reward worth 120-130 mill resources worth of units. you decide to throw them all in + interest and clear a high position (lvl 170+) at the end to get a really big reward to make up for the initial deposit of 200 mill. but this time, instead of giving you a large reward like what aloyna posted from the facebook server (230-240 mill worth of reward), it gives you a 160 mill resources worth of reward. so, your net loss is almost 80 mill. the smart thing to do of course is to wait for a few days, break down all the general items, regain your composure and start all over again. but even then, you dont catch a break. you start right from where you stopped : throwing in 200 mill and getting back 170-180 mill worth of units. 


the most suspicious part of this 'glitch' is that rewards from a position is nowhere near its max cap. level 150-170 positions consistently giving rewards equivalent to a lvl 120-130. not once, but almost all the time. positions should give rewards equivalent to its max cap (not always but regularly enough) after you have deposited sufficient units. thats how its supposed to work. 

this glitch has been happening consistently for the past month. its not normal. its either the system is broken, or plarium changed the system somehow. im sure we remember a while ago when we encountered the same situation. plarium re-assured us nothing has changed, its not broken etc ... but after a while, they admitted that it was broken, and then another incident when they told us they changed the system. sending tickets to the support team will get you non-committal replies; vague and ambiguous statements that neither deny nor agree with your complaints

so now, the player has 2 options : stop playing pp altogether and write off the losses, or wait for revival discount to recoup some of the losses.

we know they have been giving revival discounts more regularly now. that cannot be coincidental. for players to spend money on reviving, they must first lose units. what we need to know is the truth : has the system changed ? or is there a problem with the payout system. you know we know theres something wrong, so the last thing we want to hear and read is how certain players get a huge reward. we get those rewards too. but then how much have we lost to get that reward ? getting that huge reward doesn't mean there's no problem with the system. it just means its not totally broken. but it doesnt mean its running smoothly

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