General Item Drops (Compiled Data)

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TLS
16 June, 2016, 9:03 AM UTC

Last update: 12 July 2016 (PROJECT NOW RETIRED)


I wanted to share what I have found about the item drops in the new general feature. Below is selected information based on what I have been able to gather. I will update as I find out more.  There are 2 issues to note: (1) I got 2 legendary drops before I started tracking so the rarity numbers are a little off and (2) I am only hitting positions up to around 30 so I don't have data for higher level positions.

Update 1:

Class level thresholds follow a 20 level pattern (thank you NECAB15-GAMES for confirming).

Update 2:

Correlation coefficients are now added for level, position type, rarity and item type. At the moment, nothing appears to be correlated, but hopefully the picture will continue to become clear as time goes on.

Update 3:

There is now a public sheet where you can log your positions as you take them. I will pull in and compile all the data once a day.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M2DWrFlMastziV37A8kZxbYBASWI1PGaNLbz_oJT3QA/edit?usp=sharing 

The overall spreadsheet can be found here here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q8dGjkP5LRJM3kjTIti5lv_0s0IBvH0DbMlydg_cb1A/edit?usp=sharing



Total Number of Data Points
241
Key Drop Rarity
2.07%
Rarity Dispersion
Common 201 84.7%
Uncommon 31 12.9%
Rare 4 1.7%
Legendary 2 0.8%
Class Level Thresholds
Class 1 1
Class 2 21
Class 3 41
Class 4 61
Correlation Coefficients
Level : Rarity 0.0104
Level : Item type -0.0114
Position type : Rarity -0.1124
Position type : Item type 0.0893




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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
16 June, 2016, 9:26 AM UTC
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure that many players will be glad to get such info.
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Dragisha P.
16 June, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC
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Prometheus
16 June, 2016, 2:59 PM UTC

would be nice if it was for higher positions! Ask your coal for more data!!
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TLS
17 June, 2016, 6:54 AM UTC

Hackerista said:



would be nice if it was for higher positions! Ask your coal for more data!!

I agree. I've already started putting out a call for contributors in the coalition. 

If there's anyone on the message boards who would like to contribute, I would be happy to have you.  You can make a copy of the Google Sheet by click on File -> Make a Copy and maintain your own sheet.  Multiple people can do this and the results can be compiled into one sheet with lots of positions, just post your links here!

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Prometheus
17 June, 2016, 8:40 AM UTC
Good job Archon. Once I finish building fodding units and start doing Persians again, I will let you know on higher positions :)
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alexander.82thunder
20 June, 2016, 1:39 PM UTC

Dear Archons, 


Do you mean the class 2 box can be attained if I have completed at least the level 21 position takeover? But I have already complete at least level 21 but still did not receive class box. Please advice. thanks =)
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Dragisha P.
20 June, 2016, 7:53 PM UTC

Well I played only 1 PP and got box class 3 .. I'd clear lvl16 (special PP) 

I hope I have helped you a bit  
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morteeee
Moderator
21 June, 2016, 6:03 PM UTC
excellent info! Many thanks I shall put this to good use!
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TLS
22 June, 2016, 10:11 AM UTC
alexander.82thunder said:

Dear Archons, 


Do you mean the class 2 box can be attained if I have completed at least the level 21 position takeover? But I have already complete at least level 21 but still did not receive class box. Please advice. thanks =)
You will only get a Class 2 box from positions between 21 and 41. However, the drops are still random, so you are not guaranteed a box.  According to the latest data I just posted, the chances of getting a class 2 coffer from a position between level 21 and 41 is about 14%
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TLS
22 June, 2016, 10:13 AM UTC
Dragisha P. said:

Well I played only 1 PP and got box class 3 .. I'd clear lvl16 (special PP) 

I hope I have helped you a bit  
Thanks for this. Actually this falls outside the expectation from what has been reported so far.  I have not seen class 3 drop below 41, but maybe because it was a special position? Do you have a screenshot?
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
22 June, 2016, 12:52 PM UTC
It's nice to see some updates here. You are doing a great work!
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Dragisha P.
22 June, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC
Yea..I can't wait to get or buy key for box ..can't wait to see what's in there lol
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TLS
22 June, 2016, 7:54 PM UTC

There is now a public sheet where you all can log you positions!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M2DWrFlMastziV37A8kZxbYBASWI1PGaNLbz_oJT3QA/edit?usp=sharing

I'll pull the data in once a day into the master sheet and continue update the top post.

Also, just a side note, you can make a copy of the master file for your own use or if you want to play around with the statistics. Just open the master link in Google Sheets, click on File -> Make a Copy and it will save to your drive (or you can download it).

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TLS
12 July, 2016, 10:25 AM UTC

I'm going to retire this project. After the initial release, it now seems to me that the more valuable data is whether class 4 item drops and rarity correlate with positions between 61-max (players have probably already realized that class 1-3 will be quickly replaced as soon as you can hit level 61 positions).


If anyone wants to take this up in the future, I would suggest getting at least several committed people to log only within the 61-max position band. Unfortunately I have only just reached over 61 and there was no input on the public sheet so the progress by myself would be glacial.


Happy playing

TLS
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RIX
12 July, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC
TLS said:

I'm going to retire this project. After the initial release, it now seems to me that the more valuable data is whether class 4 item drops and rarity correlate with positions between 61-max (players have probably already realized that class 1-3 will be quickly replaced as soon as you can hit level 61 positions).


If anyone wants to take this up in the future, I would suggest getting at least several committed people to log only within the 61-max position band. Unfortunately I have only just reached over 61 and there was no input on the public sheet so the progress by myself would be glacial.


Happy playing

TLS
I've had 4 class IV chests drop 2, uncommon, 1 rare and 1 legendary.  NO keys though, had to buy them.  They dropped in the 70-90 level range
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mitko
1 August, 2016, 1:40 PM UTC

i hit about 40 positions in range 61-65 and only 1 uncommon chest (class 4) dropped.

its either too rare or i have to go up to get better items...

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
3 August, 2016, 7:38 AM UTC
pom said:

i hit about 40 positions in range 61-65 and only 1 uncommon chest (class 4) dropped.

its either too rare or i have to go up to get better items...

I think there are more chances to get better equipment on higher levels.
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silveourbanrivals
11 August, 2016, 9:29 PM UTC
Does anyone know whether you have to have signed a phalanx treaty before you can get a class III item or box, or a cavalry treaty before you can receive a IV item or box? I'm just wondering why a player who has played several positions in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's has never received a class 3 or 4 item or box. It's the only expanation (apart from bad luck) I can think of for why despite having played dozens of high level positions there have been no class 3 or 4 items. The inventory is full of class 2 boxes, many of which have had to be ditched to make room for more items, also class 2. I hope it's not the case that you have to have signed phalanx or cavalry treaties to be eligible to receive an item that would benefit phalanges or cavalry, after all you can win phalanx troops or cavalry when playing the rounds so why not the general items to go with them? I would like to know if anybody here who has not yet signed phalanx or cavalry treaties has managed to receive an item or box of class III or IV from playing Persian positions.
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RIX
12 August, 2016, 12:55 AM UTC
The good stuff is up top but I have only gotten 1 class 4 legendary chest above level 70.  99% of the time it's all class 4 common, uncommon and rare and I've played higher levels until I have filled every single slot purchasable and the temporary slots too
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