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EPIC Units and Upgrade-able Troop Buildings

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YouSea
7 May, 2016, 3:36 AM UTC

So as the title states, i suggest the implementation of Epic units as well as the ability to upgrade troop producing buildings.

First off, let's discus Epic units

The idea of an Epic Unit is that they give great stats and higher bonuses to champion units but cost an absurd amount of resources. Epic Units would also be able to boost other units (like a champion unit does) but instead only has a unit size of 5. However Epic Units would be very costly. Not only would an Epic Unit use a lot of bronze/timber/grain, but would also require a new currency called an Epic token. These Epic Tokens are intended to be gained through tourneys somewhat easily (100 token for 25000 pvp points or so), however you can buy Epic Tokens using 100 GPs each. There would ideally be 2 Epic Units of each unit type (one offence, one defense).

Epic Cavalry Units:

(horsey picture x3 )

Offence: 2150 (3010 or +860 with level 20 agreement)                         Defense: 1375 (1925 or +550 with level 20 

                                                                                                               agreement)

Boosted amount from Cataphract: 1500 points                                      Bonus amount from War Elephant: 

                                                                                                               625 points

Resources:                                                                                              Resources:

  Timber: 10,000                                                                                        Timber: 10,000

  Bronze: 18,000                                                                                        Bronze: 5,000

  Grain: 8,000                                                                                             Grain: 6,000

  Epic Tokens: 30                                                                                        Epic Tokens: 24

Supporting Units:                                                                                     Supporting Units:

  Max Bonus: 4000                                                                                     Max Bonus: 1500

  Max Units: 5                                                                                             Max Units: 5

Bonuses:                                                                                                   Bonuses:

  710 points to Agema (775 Veteran, 800 Imperial)                                     285 points to Legate (300 

                                                                                                                    Veteran)

  608 points to Macedonian (673 Veteran)                                                   265 points to Mounted Peltast 

                                                                                                                     (276 Veteran 285 Imperial)

  352 points to Carth Horseman (417 Veteran)



Epic Phalanx Units:


Offence: 1350 (1890 or +540 with level 20 agreement)                        Defense: 900 (1260 or +360 with  

                                                                                                              level 20 agreement)

Boosted amount from Scorpio: 1010 points                                          Boosted amount from Fire Catapult:

                                                                                                              410 points

Resources:                                                                                            Resources:

  Timber: 6000                                                                                         Timber: 6,500

  Bronze: 10000                                                                                       Bronze: 3,520

  Grain: 7000                                                                                           Grain: 4,000

  Epic Tokens: 22                                                                                     Epic Tokens: 18

Supporting Units:                                                                                   Supporting Units:

  Max Bonus: 2375                                                                                  Max Bonus: 875

  Max Units: 5                                                                                          Max Units: 5

Bonuses:                                                                                                Bonuses:


  475 points to Evoc                                                                                 179 points to Thureop (189 Veteran 

                                                                                                                197 Imperial)
  404 points to Prom (423 Veteran 426 Imperial)                                     186 points to Trojan Thor (195 

                                                                                                                 Veteran)
  327 points to Saris (340 Veteran)


Epic Heavy Infantry Units:


Offence: 540 (756 or + 216 with level 20 agreement)                         Defense: 382 (535 or +153 with level 20 

                                                                                                            agreement)

Bonus from Spartan Lochagos: 365 points                                         Bonus from Hypaspists: 182

Resources:                                                                                          Resources:

  Timber: 4,000                                                                                      Timber: 4,200

  Bronze: 8,500                                                                                      Bronze: 2,300

  Grain: 4,500                                                                                        Grain: 3,200

  Epic Tokens: 16                                                                                   Epic Tokens: 12

Supporting Units:                                                                               Supporting Units:

  Max Bonus: 900                                                                                 Max Bonus: 365

  Max Units: 5                                                                                       Max Units: 5

Bonuses:                                                                                            Bonus: 

  173 Golden Shield (180 Veteran)                                                       70 points to Crete Archer (72 to

                                                                                                             Veteran 73 to Imperial)

  160 Spartan Hoplite (170 Veteran)                                                     70 points to Peltast (72 to Veteran)

  160 Legionnaire                                                                                  70 points to Triarius 

  106 Myrmidon (112 Veteran 115 Imperial)

Epic Light Infantry Units:


Offence: 315 (441 or +126 with level 20 agreement)                        Defense: 157 (220 or +63 with level 20

                                                                                                          agreement)

Bonus from Spartan Sminias: 95                                                       Bonus from Standard Bearer: 40

Resources:                                                                                        Resources:

  Timber: 2,300                                                                                    Timber: 2,400

  Bronze: 6,100                                                                                    Bronze: 1,050

  Grain: 3,000                                                                                       Grain: 1,220

  Epic Tokens: 10                                                                                  Epic Tokens: 6

Supporting Units:                                                                              Supporting Units:

  Max Points: 175                                                                                Max Points: 75

  Max Units: 5                                                                                      Max Units: 5

Bonuses:                                                                                          Bonuses:

  34 points to Sidons (35 to Veteran)                                                  14 points to Numidian Archer (15 to

                                                                                                           Veteran)

  33 points to Gladiators                                                                     13 points to Veles

  27 points to Hoplites (29 to Veteran)                                                10 points to Psilos (12 to Veteran)

  18 points to Swordsman (19 to Veteran)                                           8 to Javs (9 to Veteran)


So the next idea is the ability to upgrade troop training buildings

This idea is a lot less simple, as each upgrade would just lower the training time.


Level 2  Level 3  Level 4  Level 5  Level 6  Level 7  Level 8  Level 9 Level 10 <Sketch Levels> Level 11  Level 12  Level 13 Level14 level15

 -0.5%  > -1%   >  -1.5% >  -2.0% > -2.5% > -3.0% >  -3.5% >  -4.0% >    -5%     >                      -6.0%    >  -7.0%  > -8.0%  > -9.0%> -10.0%

I'm hungry u x u
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Mike
7 May, 2016, 4:08 AM UTC
Seems like a decent idea if you're not a coiner 
You need to relax.
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Rob May
7 May, 2016, 2:04 PM UTC

interesting idea I'm for it, but plarium will at it and ask where is drachma cost to epic units?:)


regarding unit training speed, 10% at max level is nothing, game is out for 2-3years, everything grown exponentially, speed which units move etc, coiners armies to hundreds of millions...

training of units need to be at least 50% faster at max level I would go for 100% extra, lets say 20x 5% upgrades. who cant raid enough will simply produce less, than few % of good raiders.


also I don't like idea how comfortable people are with sketches even suggesting them to implement to new mechanics.

resource buildings are extras, don't mind some exclusive sketches stuff, but produce buildings should stay as core feature without drachma cost for speed up, maybe make it long upgrade times, so can be speed up with drachmas, but not unavailable to upgrade for people without much drachmas. as to get max level wit sketches over 4 buildings could easily cost 100k drachmas.

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YouSea
7 May, 2016, 3:46 PM UTC

Rob May said:


interesting idea I'm for it, but plarium will at it and ask where is drachma cost to epic units?:)


regarding unit training speed, 10% at max level is nothing, game is out for 2-3years, everything grown exponentially, speed which units move etc, coiners armies to hundreds of millions...

training of units need to be at least 50% faster at max level I would go for 100% extra, lets say 20x 5% upgrades. who cant raid enough will simply produce less, than few % of good raiders.


also I don't like idea how comfortable people are with sketches even suggesting them to implement to new mechanics.

resource buildings are extras, don't mind some exclusive sketches stuff, but produce buildings should stay as core feature without drachma cost for speed up, maybe make it long upgrade times, so can be speed up with drachmas, but not unavailable to upgrade for people without much drachmas. as to get max level wit sketches over 4 buildings could easily cost 100k drachmas.

For the epic units, I didn't want the token things to be able to be bought by drachmas because then you might as well just buy a champion unit.

And I didn't want the training time boost to be very high maybe 15% at the max because I felt that if it were too high then it would be broken and there would be too little of a drawback from loosing troops in a pvp battle

I'm hungry u x u
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lekkerdje
7 May, 2016, 7:47 PM UTC

my view on this matter is, i like some type of unit that boosts other units thats similar like champ units but weaker. so non drachma users can also boost their armies.


Pushing everyone to spend, just makes people not spend, like the stupid 300 bonus now. Thank you, for spending money u get some shitty extra units lolz , yes now i will buy for sure..



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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
10 May, 2016, 10:58 AM UTC
We are not planning to create more Units for now, however we will give our players more opportunities to upgrade their Units stats with one of our future features.
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Rob May
10 May, 2016, 6:53 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

We are not planning to create more Units for now, however we will give our players more opportunities to upgrade their Units stats with one of our future features.
with our idle agreement guy or with drachmas?
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
11 May, 2016, 12:13 PM UTC
Rob May said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

We are not planning to create more Units for now, however we will give our players more opportunities to upgrade their Units stats with one of our future features.
with our idle agreement guy or with drachmas?
None of the above :) You'll see...
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Kakos
11 May, 2016, 12:46 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

None of the above :) You'll see...
Oh come on.. give us a hint!!
Vae victis
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Astyanax
11 May, 2016, 7:34 PM UTC
Kakos said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

None of the above :) You'll see...
Oh come on.. give us a hint!!
With the blood squeezed from enemy soldiers?
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
12 May, 2016, 11:28 AM UTC
Kakos said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

None of the above :) You'll see...
Oh come on.. give us a hint!!
Hmmm...We already have this feature in Stormfall 
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alexandr01
15 May, 2016, 7:53 PM UTC
I suggest to add also an unit price, so we to be able to heal them (pay half of the cost in order to take back up to 70% of the fallen units).
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
16 May, 2016, 10:14 AM UTC

alexandr01 said:


I suggest to add also an unit price, so we to be able to heal them (pay half of the cost in order to take back up to 70% of the fallen units).

It's called Infirmary 

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ThatBloke
24 May, 2016, 6:42 AM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Kakos said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


None of the above :) You'll see...
Oh come on.. give us a hint!!
Hmmm...We already have this feature in Stormfall 

LOL

Understood. I guess it's the latest one ? ^^


I pity the fool
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
24 May, 2016, 11:36 AM UTC
Sandeep said:

when is new update coming this week or next week
Why only two options? 
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