So, to put this in context, from BGs' own words, we have the issue starting this stated to be what happened to Mpire.. if that is in fact the case, then the timing of the pan attack is irrelevant as you intended to carry out a plan of revenge regardless.
Further, during the pan incident, Bir was in fact contacted. The heg did respond. Nigel did show a screen with a claim of not knowing what was going on etc just prior to participating in a coalition attack on a pan.. it would seem to me some planning is necessary to launch a coalition attack, but apparently Birs' Heg sets those up without prior planning.. I guess I can buy that since the consequences are very likely to be beyond whats expected, but the timing again shows intent. This was a process already set in motion. As Nigel mentioned, NONE of that would matter to us had BG apologized - we often go to great lengths to sacrifice for and accommodate our allies. As BG meant to take us down with Nicholas regardless, none of that really matters , but lets continue the thought exercise on justification of the use of dishonorable tactics:
Mpire. This incident occurred when I was but a new recruit in terms. I didnt take note of it myself, as it was a bit of a non event for the coa, but UJ highlighted the key points. My apologies for posting internal chat, but I believe it relevant to the thread here and illuminates the context.
junior [4:16 AM]
It's a long story
[4:17]
short version is, Moody and Ogloz founded Mpire. Moody was inactive and Ogloz had hege
[4:17]
moody came back wanted hege, ogloz decided otherwise
[4:17]
and asked dave if we want pans, that he's disbanding Mpire
[4:19]
This was over a year ago
[4:20]
We had nothing to do with their downfall, however when Nicolas did it to terms, they claimed in HBG chat that it was their doings as plane
So, you can see - yes we got some pans out of the destruction of Mpire. Yes Ogolz seems to have had something to do with that. No, we did not encourage him to do so. Why should Terms even consider throwing away pans because of an internal self-destruction of a coa in which we had no part? That would make no sense. Our enemies shouldnt profit from such a thing.
If BG had a beef with what happened they might have expressed their dissatisfaction , perhaps pursued a vendetta vs Ogolz and other participants or served notice to us that taking them in or occupying Mpires former pans constituted a slight, insult or other action against them. They did not. In fact , down the road they became our friends. OK - no problem.. until they can backstab us by buying off Nicholas.
BG thought they could destroy terms with this action: hit our players , take all our pans and downgrade our capitol to level 5. News: our poles lost a chunk of defense in the pantheons but this is already partly recovered. Our capitol is going back up to 20 soon. We still have pans and will get back all the ones we want. We are not done. Our family and allies know we remain very potent, offensively, and our actions will speak to whats going to happen far more than words.
BG made this bed. We will make them lay upon it.
See you on the field :)
SPH