Incredibile 17 issioni attacco zhg fallite nessun pagamento

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besticio
6 November, 2016, 9:04 AM UTC

DOPO 17 Missioni Ultima ATTACCO LIVELLO 94 Nessun pagamento

 DOPO Aver perso circa 10 Milioni in Forza attacco, Superando di ben 3 Volte Il Valore dell'ultimo pagamento, Ancora Ricevuto nulla non ho in Rimborso.

   Potete dire cio Che volete, ma Qualcosa non torna. 

Ho perso la Fiducia nel Sistema di Calcolo di palrium su ZHG e potenza attacco e difesa delle truppe.

AFTER 17 Missions Last ATTACK LEVEL 94 No payment

  After getting lost around 10 Million in force attack, Overcoming up to 3 times the value of the last payment, I have not yet received anything back.

    What you can say what you want, but something does not come back.

I have lost confidence in the computing system of palrium of ZHG and attack power and defense of the troops.


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exxxe
6 November, 2016, 1:19 PM UTC

commander i can not fully uderstand your issue but i assume its about your losses in ZHG 


well just find a good strategy to play them and keep doing them you will get a payout at some point 
I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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besticio
18 March, 2017, 6:46 PM UTC
Pagato  dopo 46  livelli zhg fino a livello 104 attaco. stanco  fatto un livello inferiore per essere pagato , sempre sotto il livello dlle mie perdite
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
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20 March, 2017, 3:51 PM UTC
besticio said:

Pagato  dopo 46  livelli zhg fino a livello 104 attaco. stanco  fatto un livello inferiore per essere pagato , sempre sotto il livello dlle mie perdite
Hi! please provide an English translation to your posts :) It's a bit hard to understand them with google :)
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besticio
4 May, 2017, 10:16 PM UTC

Ancora incredibile  24 missioni da livello 104 a livello 127 , e ancora zhg non restituisce le mie perdite,

 solo piccoli rimborsi .

Dubito fortemente     ci sia qualche errore in zhg, o la possibilita che il mio conteggio zhg  sia bloccato a missioni inferiori

Besticio LEGIONE XI


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Alyona Kolomiitseva
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8 May, 2017, 2:08 PM UTC
besticio said:

Ancora incredibile  24 missioni da livello 104 a livello 127 , e ancora zhg non restituisce le mie perdite,

 solo piccoli rimborsi .

Dubito fortemente     ci sia qualche errore in zhg, o la possibilita che il mio conteggio zhg  sia bloccato a missioni inferiori

Besticio LEGIONE XI


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the soul of mellowness
8 May, 2017, 5:41 PM UTC

Choose attack or defense: (Do not use tools or anything to boost your power!) 

Kill all 30 levels from small to large is the only way to know the outcome... 

Maybe your army will lose 10-20% of its troops after receiving the reward... 

You can print reports on the level of the ZHG you have destroyed.

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besticio
19 August, 2017, 6:49 AM UTC

Plarium puo' dire cio' che vuole ma dopo 60 missioni zhg attacco non ho mai ricevuto le ricompense  che mi aspettano.

 il mio zhg e un bug

. Ho perso fiducia in Plarium e nei suoi metodi di calcolo

 Altri ricevono in ricompensa 20.000 mila unita   e piu'. il il m assimo ricevuto a missioni lv 141 sono di 1000 unita'.

 non ci sono scuse, 

 O' e una truffa pilotata o PLarium non e' capace di aggiornare correttamente le basi e i sistemi di calcolo dei giocatori.


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besticio
19 August, 2017, 6:50 AM UTC
zenki said:

Choose attack or defense: (Do not use tools or anything to boost your power!) 

Kill all 30 levels from small to large is the only way to know the outcome... 

Maybe your army will lose 10-20% of its troops after receiving the reward... 

You can print reports on the level of the ZHG you have destroyed.


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besticio
19 August, 2017, 6:51 AM UTC

The missions are at 140 all attack, and the maximum reward was 3000 helicopters. When my other friends receive 20,000 attack units

  Palrium is a scam

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besticio
19 August, 2017, 6:52 AM UTC
exxxe said:

commander i can not fully uderstand your issue but i assume its about your losses in ZHG 


well just find a good strategy to play them and keep doing them you will get a payout at some point 

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besticio
19 August, 2017, 6:55 AM UTC

They are not the leaks the problem. But are zhg refunds

  . Far below my losses.

Pour out much more attack power than the troops received

  I'm on the mission 142 attack, and the united receipts are ridiculous, compared to my friends.

  Received in 800/1000 troops when my comrades receive 20,000 unions for missions below 125

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Sergey Kryvorotchenko
Community Manager
21 August, 2017, 9:35 AM UTC

besticio said:


They are not the leaks the problem. But are zhg refunds

  . Far below my losses.

Pour out much more attack power than the troops received

  I'm on the mission 142 attack, and the united receipts are ridiculous, compared to my friends.

  Received in 800/1000 troops when my comrades receive 20,000 unions for missions below 125

Hi, Commander. If I understand you right, there is no issue. Your Reward depends on your losses. If your comrades lose most of Units, they will receive a higher Reward. As the level of your S/Ds grows, it takes more time and effort to receive big prize. Rewards increase too. This is why it is important to consider the aforementioned point and choose the strategy that fits your playing style.

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Badlag247
1 September, 2017, 8:50 PM UTC

besticio said:


Ancora incredibile  24 missioni da livello 104 a livello 127 , e ancora zhg non restituisce le mie perdite,

 solo piccoli rimborsi .

Dubito fortemente     ci sia qualche errore in zhg, o la possibilita che il mio conteggio zhg  sia bloccato a missioni inferiori

Besticio LEGIONE XI


In English:

Still amazing 24 missions from level 104 to level 127, and yet zhg does not return my losses,

 only small redemptions.

I strongly doubt there is some mistake in zhg, or the possibility that my count zhg is locked in lower missions

Besticio LEGION XI

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Badlag247
1 September, 2017, 8:54 PM UTC

You have made the assumption that they have programmed the game to return your losses at some point.

This does not agree with my personal experience in this game and the other clones by the same company.

I suspect that the trigger for rewards is correlating to losses under specific conditions, but when you change something, you no longer correlate, and can take losses without realizing repayment.


In Italian:

Hai fatto l'ipotesi di aver programmato il gioco per restituire le tue perdite ad un certo punto.

Questo non è d'accordo con la mia esperienza personale in questo gioco e gli altri cloni della stessa azienda.

Sospetto che l'innesco di ricompense sia correlato a perdite in condizioni specifiche, ma quando si cambia qualcosa, non si è più correlati e può prendere perdite senza rendersi conto del rimborso.

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Badlag247
1 September, 2017, 9:09 PM UTC

Sergey Kryvorotchenko said:

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 Your Reward depends on your losses. If your comrades lose most of Units, they will receive a higher Reward. 

My experience with this game (and casinos) is that larger losses lead to larger losses, not better pay offs.

The game mechanics on the locations differ slightly from the game mechanics on slot machines, but it is similar in concept:

You "place a bet" and hope to get rewarded. From time to time you "win" and that keeps you going back to play some more.

When you place small bets, you tend to win small when you win. 

You can move up to "bigger machines" and experience larger wins, but also experience larger losses.

Where the analogy breaks down is that every pull on a slot machine is "an even pull" meaning that previous bets and results have no impact on the current pull. In this game, there does appear to be some tracking, and the Field Manual even states that there is. 

However, what the Field manual states is that a lack of payout will be carried over until a payout occurs. What exactly triggers the pay out, and how much the pay out is, is something not specified. Any statements about how and when the payout happens, and how much it is, is conjecture unless released by the developers. Some of the conventional wisdom on the topic does not hold up to testing. If the data doesn't support a theory, then the theory must be rejected.

For example: 

I can get a pay out of X, and based upon various comments expect to have my next payout by the time I lose 3x troops. (Some use smaller numbers than 3x). In practice: If I send in 10x the troops I was last rewarded with, and lose close to 100%, I will frequently not realize my next payout. When taking very high loss percentages, I have seen a break from the correlation between cost and reward.

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Sergey Kryvorotchenko
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4 September, 2017, 10:29 AM UTC

Badlag247 said:


Sergey Kryvorotchenko said:

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 Your Reward depends on your losses. If your comrades lose most of Units, they will receive a higher Reward. 

My experience with this game (and casinos) is that larger losses lead to larger losses, not better pay offs.

The game mechanics on the locations differ slightly from the game mechanics on slot machines, but it is similar in concept:

You "place a bet" and hope to get rewarded. From time to time you "win" and that keeps you going back to play some more.

When you place small bets, you tend to win small when you win. 

You can move up to "bigger machines" and experience larger wins, but also experience larger losses.

Where the analogy breaks down is that every pull on a slot machine is "an even pull" meaning that previous bets and results have no impact on the current pull. In this game, there does appear to be some tracking, and the Field Manual even states that there is. 

However, what the Field manual states is that a lack of payout will be carried over until a payout occurs. What exactly triggers the pay out, and how much the pay out is, is something not specified. Any statements about how and when the payout happens, and how much it is, is conjecture unless released by the developers. Some of the conventional wisdom on the topic does not hold up to testing. If the data doesn't support a theory, then the theory must be rejected.

For example: 

I can get a pay out of X, and based upon various comments expect to have my next payout by the time I lose 3x troops. (Some use smaller numbers than 3x). In practice: If I send in 10x the troops I was last rewarded with, and lose close to 100%, I will frequently not realize my next payout. When taking very high loss percentages, I have seen a break from the correlation between cost and reward.

Well, it's not really like that.

There are several points worth mentioning when we speak about S/Ds.


Calculation of the reward is performed according to the special algorithm. Rewards are received according to your losses at previous S/Ds. After you reach a certain point you get a prize in Units. This is why you do not receive the reward at each S/D. It is normal. Units you send to each S/D are counted. You will be given the prize automatically by the system once you hit a certain S/D and receive your deserved bonus.


Apart from Units, you receive Experience and S/D Tournament points, etc. at the S/Ds. Those things are very important and help to advance in the game. Please do not forget about it when you estimate your S/D rewards.  S/Ds give items that enhance Units' strength or can be destroyed to upgrade other Items. Attacking S/Ds of higher levels gives more chances to receive rarer, better Items.


You receive Experience points for all battles at S/Ds and S/D Tournaments points for successful attacks. A good tactic when doing S/Ds is to send Units to them when XP Tournament is ongoing and to finish them off when the S/D Tournament starts. It will allow receiving Tournament points in both events for doing the same activity and to get the most out of the situation.


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