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Aug 12, 2022, 06:4708/12/22
01/09/22
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Increase in Loss Quota for Classic Arena Gold Level?

Hello fellow Raiders. 

Pardon the question but over the past few days, had anyone experienced an increase of more than 12 losses per day in Classic Arena Gold ?

Ever since Monday, because I set 1-man defences, I had been experiencing as many as 20 losses per day. It got so bad that I had to switch off 1-man for half a day in order to recoup the loss of points so as not to drop in level. 

Had there been any official announcements about the increase in Loss quota or is this a silent patch by Plarium?

Many thanks in advance and much appreciated.



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harleQuinnModerator
Aug 12, 2022, 08:4308/12/22
02/24/19
7109

I'm hearing people talk about there being some changes on how many losses are being registered on Gold.

As far as announcements, I don't remember ANY loss quota in Gold being announced, so I don't see any accouncements being made this time, but perhaps we'll see something in the Weekly Digest today.

Aug 12, 2022, 09:3608/12/22
01/09/22
8
harleQuinn

I'm hearing people talk about there being some changes on how many losses are being registered on Gold.

As far as announcements, I don't remember ANY loss quota in Gold being announced, so I don't see any accouncements being made this time, but perhaps we'll see something in the Weekly Digest today.

Thanks for the reply, harleQuinn, much appreciated. 

Prior to this, it was mentioned, perhaps not officially, that losses in Gold are capped at 12 per 24 hours and anedoctally, i can attest to that. 

Well, now, it is way more than that and i have counted more than 20. 

So once again, our dear Plarium had gone and done a ninja on us in order to stop us from helping each other with the 1-man defences. It really sucks. I know that it may sound disingenous but i felt really dirty when i had to switch off 1-man for those few hours while i recouped the points and get into a comfortable range. 

I am back to doing my 1-man and from what i can see, out of the 20+ players who took the points and "W", less than 3-4 players are helping out with a 1-man themselves....

Aug 12, 2022, 12:2208/12/22
08/22/21
210

I don't know where you are, geographically.  But remember that Plariums new day starts at 6 AM New York time.  It could be that their day started in the middle of yours, so it looked like 20 losses in one day, but could have been 8 in one day and 12 in the next.

Aug 12, 2022, 13:3108/12/22
06/25/20
6070

Anecdotally, clanmates of mine are confirming this, OP. Curious if others have seen the same thing.

Aug 12, 2022, 16:2708/12/22
05/03/20
1743

My battle log only goes back 8 hours and 12 losses.  The time frame does not match a Plarium day.  

dthorne04Moderator
Aug 12, 2022, 18:2508/12/22
12/30/20
5225

Noticed yesterday that the 100-200 point range near Plat was filled with far, far more real defenses than the prior months. Decided to switch to a one man defense to test it out and got smacked 22 times since yesterday's reset.

So yeah, it seems like we're heading back towards uncapped losses. 

Aug 12, 2022, 21:1208/12/22
Aug 12, 2022, 21:13(edited)
02/11/22
529

I think with a one-man defense, you'll get smacked at about a rate of once per hour, overall. I've counted 24-hr periods of 28 losses, others of 20-ish... So as long as you win most of the 39 free runs you get each day, you'll keep moving away from the floor, but never quite reach the other level.

If your goal is to go in plat, 1-man team is not the way to do it. If your goal is to NOT go into plat, then why not? Just gotta make sure to run all the tokens they give you to stay on the plus side.

By the way, my team ain't that strong. And yet, after a bit of a break (had to break for a month or two), i was back in bronze 1. And it took me just under 4 days to reach gold 5, without using any rubies to recharge tokens. I suspect most people below gold barely do 10 each day, and even in gold, i think most people can't spend all their free tokens every day, so if you do, you can quickly advance.

Aug 13, 2022, 03:3408/13/22
Aug 13, 2022, 03:36(edited)
Aug 13, 2022, 04:2308/13/22
04/24/22
741

Feels like a way to disuade 1-2 man teams for defense ... which i do find sad cuz i love facing them and giving others free wins in gold ... help each other progress GH :P

harleQuinnModerator
Aug 13, 2022, 04:4208/13/22
02/24/19
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Lyryal

Feels like a way to disuade 1-2 man teams for defense ... which i do find sad cuz i love facing them and giving others free wins in gold ... help each other progress GH :P

Get them while you can!

Arena is occasionally made easy for a bit, but then slowly gets more and more tough again. :(

Aug 13, 2022, 05:0908/13/22
04/24/22
741
harleQuinn

Get them while you can!

Arena is occasionally made easy for a bit, but then slowly gets more and more tough again. :(

I feel you just have to pick your fight , i did not see a difference between using a 1 man team vs a full team , i face 1 man team here and there ... just gotta be there for those refresh to increase the odds to win win win ..


Tho i would rly enjoy something that encourage 1 man defense since that does help the overall playerbase ...

Aug 13, 2022, 05:2208/13/22
Aug 13, 2022, 05:22(edited)
01/09/22
8
Lyryal

Feels like a way to disuade 1-2 man teams for defense ... which i do find sad cuz i love facing them and giving others free wins in gold ... help each other progress GH :P

Aye. 

I was one of the beneficiaries of the 1-man D. crowd and the minute i was in Gold, i ran 1-man D. all the way for the past 3-4 months. 

I will still, stubbornly, run 1-man although on occasion, i would have to switch to a normal arena defense to staunch the bleeding...

Hopefully, people would do the same...

Aug 13, 2022, 05:3408/13/22
06/25/20
6070
Lyryal

I feel you just have to pick your fight , i did not see a difference between using a 1 man team vs a full team , i face 1 man team here and there ... just gotta be there for those refresh to increase the odds to win win win ..


Tho i would rly enjoy something that encourage 1 man defense since that does help the overall playerbase ...

Heh. You weren't around when they removed the guardrails :)

Aug 13, 2022, 05:4708/13/22
Aug 13, 2022, 06:02(edited)
604
silenthill

21 smackdowns and counting

https://postimg.cc/0MCZSX0Q

Don't be toxic -the Mod Team

Aug 13, 2022, 06:1708/13/22
01/09/22
8

Alright, my fellow Raiders, this would be my final screen shot and probably post so as not to belabour the point 

https://postimg.cc/JtGsP1KJ

25 (?) losses. 

The point is that Plarium had slid in a patch for Gold level Classic Arena and there is no longer a 12 game loss cap / quota. 

Personally, i will try and keep up my 1-man defence for as long as possible and my sincerest apologies to everyone if i have to switch off for a while to staunch the bleeding. 

Thank you to everyone who is still persisting in running 1-man Ds. 🙏

Aug 13, 2022, 08:4508/13/22
604
silenthill

Win some, lose some, i would say. 

https://postimg.cc/wt2kc62Z


This is the Arena. Some lose,some win. But now the Arena is super easy, that's not good. Im reached Gold with a lvl35 charater without a hitch, without any legendary or without any arena god. Was simple with High Khatun lead and Kael.

Your picture is defense loses. What is your defense team ? Maybe your team is bad builded. But i think, the pvp loss quota what you talk about it, its a bad solution for very easy win to players. Learn how can build a good team for Arena, not a Plarium solution need for this.

Aug 13, 2022, 10:4108/13/22
10/11/20
366

We all knew this was going to happen sooner or later. It was a temporary fix to a permanent problem. I stopped putting 1 man defense weeks ago, as soon as I saw they're upping the loss cap above 10. Plus, so few are doing it in upper G5, you see just pages and pages of OP defenses with an occasional 1man, maybe once or twice a day. And then there's the Platinum drop-outs,  with their Warlords and Nekreths. So I said f- this, if they're not doing it, neither will I.