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Jul 10, 2022, 16:5207/10/22
03/28/22
67

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I just used 107 Void Shards, didn't get even 1 legendary, 7 worthless Epics all the rest were rares! And this is during 10x! Ok, here is the deal with me. Unless I get 10 Legendary champions given to me, decent ones, I will NEVER spend another penny on this game. No complaining, no talking smack about the game, I actually really  enjoy playing. I have spent almost 20K on this game and will willing spend a lot more but I won't be ripped off! 107 Voids and not even ONE Legendary, come on. That's not random, impossible! So either give me the Legendary's or I will stop spending. I will play and I won't post ever again, but I will NEVER spend another dime with you! Your choice.

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Jul 10, 2022, 17:0907/10/22
Jul 10, 2022, 17:10(edited)
06/25/20
2997

This isn't a 10x. It's a 2x. And your odds of getting a legendary from 107 void shards on a 2x are about 65%. That's far from impossible. They're even worse on a 10x - only 42% chance of getting a lego from 107 voids on a 10x.

Jul 10, 2022, 18:1907/10/22
06/20/19
1056

To be honest your luck is not great but it's not that bad either. On the other hand buying shards is always a losing bet,

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 10, 2022, 21:3307/10/22
02/24/19
3190

No one here on the forums has the ability to "flip some switch" and change your shard results, or the variance inherit in pulling them.

It really stinks to pull 107 voids and not get any legendaries, but as you can see above, it's not even an unlikely occurence even on a 2x. I hope you have better luck with your next pulls. 

Jul 31, 2022, 08:5607/31/22
03/28/22
67

Oh B.S., I have spent over 20k on this game and I am ok with it. But i don't like being ripped off. You know what my spending patterns are so you give me crappy draws because  you are hoping I will buy more shards. Just used 38 Ancients, 22 Voids and 9 Sacreds and ZERO Legendary. ZERO! No way on God's green earth is that the use of an RNG. Absolutely impossible! I work in a MAJOR casino and all we know are odds. Do you know that NO ONE has EVER hit 20 out of 20 in Keno? Never! No one, in any casino in the world, why? Because of the odds. What has happened to me with shards REPEATEDLY is not just "Bad Luck" it is mind boggling bad luck. So, the bottom line is this, email me some decent Legends or I will never buy another shard again. I will play because I like the game a lot, BUT I will not be ripped off again!

Jul 31, 2022, 08:5907/31/22
03/28/22
67

Oh by the way Moderator, you said "as you can see from above" see what? That I have a 65% chance or a 42%? Those are good odds, with odds like that I should have a Legendary almost every other shard!

Jul 31, 2022, 10:1907/31/22
09/14/20
377
PechangaDude

Oh by the way Moderator, you said "as you can see from above" see what? That I have a 65% chance or a 42%? Those are good odds, with odds like that I should have a Legendary almost every other shard!

You should really consider reading some stuff about probability and odds. 

The percentages of 65% and 42% are not regarding single shards...they are symbolizing the whole sum of your draws.

Just to give you an example of the number of shards you pulled above. I am assuming that you are not within mercy range.

38 ancients shards. You have a 99.5 % chance not to get a legendary with a single pull. For 38 shards, your chance to not pull a leggo is: 82,66 %

22 voids: not pulling a legendary: 89,56 %

9 sacreds: not pulling a leggo : 57,3% 

These are the odds you should consider and looking at the numbers, I'd say it is much more possible than the other way around. 

If you are working in a casino, you should know this. The bank always wins....

Jul 31, 2022, 10:3007/31/22
03/28/22
67

Ya, I do know that the bank "house" always wins. I also know that the company that owns this game is a gambling company. I also know, from communicating with many, MANY people on boards that the majority of people that receive Lego's are non or low spenders, hmm. Will receiving a Lego entice these people spend on other items like energy, chickens or the like? Hmm. If you or anyone else thinks that spending habits are not tracked, you are foolish. Why does the "hot" deal for silver "pop" up immediately when I need silver to upgrade or whatever I need to buy with silver? You remind me of all the fools on pubg and WZ, all those clowns kept telling me that Shroud, Dr. Diknucklehead and all the rest were legit and didn't cheat. Uh huh and then the snow map came out and 18 PRO players got banned! Shroud...BANNED for using flying cars, oh but he was just playing around, Dr. Diknucklehead...BANNED for cheating. So don't tell me that the draws are random because I do work in a casino and I know better. I know what is possible and what is impossible also, what is probable and improbable!

Jul 31, 2022, 10:4507/31/22
03/28/22
67

Also, your percentages are in error. You can only pull ONE or TEN shards at a time with ancient and voids and only ONE sacred at a time; therefore, it doesn't matter if you start with 33 or 33000 shards. And I was referring to the moderator  quoting the comment made earlier. That person said 65 ir 42% which is in error also. I am NOT saying that the odds you quote are correct or not, although I don' believe they are that low. BUT what I am saying is the odds change disproportionately for individual players. You buy a lot, like me your odds of drawing a lego go down, you spend a little, your odds go up. I guess it is ok because it keeps the game on more of an equal basis between free to play people and spenders. But it really pisses me off because I like to be the best at what I do.

Jul 31, 2022, 10:5907/31/22
301

No problem, i didnt got over two and half months a single sacred shard from UNM,NM CBs.

Maybe, over 250 box drops not enough just for craps.

Jul 31, 2022, 11:5907/31/22
Jul 31, 2022, 12:09(edited)
09/14/20
377
PechangaDude

Also, your percentages are in error. You can only pull ONE or TEN shards at a time with ancient and voids and only ONE sacred at a time; therefore, it doesn't matter if you start with 33 or 33000 shards. And I was referring to the moderator  quoting the comment made earlier. That person said 65 ir 42% which is in error also. I am NOT saying that the odds you quote are correct or not, although I don' believe they are that low. BUT what I am saying is the odds change disproportionately for individual players. You buy a lot, like me your odds of drawing a lego go down, you spend a little, your odds go up. I guess it is ok because it keeps the game on more of an equal basis between free to play people and spenders. But it really pisses me off because I like to be the best at what I do.

I see that you seem to have no grasp of probability of larger numbers. I deem the conversation to be senseless and let you steam off your anger.


Jul 31, 2022, 17:2307/31/22
03/28/22
67

If you have a 3.5% to get a lego and it is a 10x event, what does that mean? .035 is 3.5%, multiply .035 tmes 10 and what do you have? .05 which IS 35%. Probability has does not change. Why? Because the odds do NOT change. Unless there is a limited number of lego's available, then as they are pulled your odds do change, then the MORE shards you have the BETTER your odds. I have one deck of cards, 52 cards. THe odds of me picking the ace of spades is the same as me picking the king of hearts. I pick the 3 of clubs, have the odds or probability of me picking the ace of spades gone up or down? The odds have gone up, because there are less cards. So if there are a limited number of champions of all kinds, my odds of getting a lego go up more with every ancient or void shard that is drawn. Because there are MORE sacreds available. If in fact there are an unlimited number of all champions but there are constant proportions, THEN in a ten times event one would have a 10x better chance of receiving a lego. Get it now? So, in closing, the game states that in a regular draw one has a 6% or .06 chance of receiving a Legendary champion with a sacred shard. ONE SACRED SHARD HAS 6% CHANCE. What are the odds if you have 1000 sacred shards? Drumroll please....6% EXACTLY the same. Because there is no limit to the number of champions, take out one, it is replaced. Now in a 10x event for a special champion the odds are the same because you have to get a lego then the 10x comes in to play to decide which lego you get. BUT in an event where it is 2x to receive a lego, your odds go to 12x. That means for every 100 sacred shards you use you should receive 12 legos. I have used probably 500 sacreds in 2x events and have received less than 10 legos. Almost ALL of my 65 legos have come from Ancients, lol. Explain that. Ok, that's it for me, take care.

Jul 31, 2022, 17:5107/31/22
03/28/22
67

I have never received a sacred from cb either. I play every day on cb, as high a level that is available and zippo. But, there are SEVERAL people in my clan that have 2 chests and get 2 sacreds. Some more than once. But of course they are free to play.

Jul 31, 2022, 17:5307/31/22
03/28/22
67

I am going to test my hypothesis. I am going to start a new game on my laptop, going to use a spoofer and VPN and play strictly freeplay. Then see what happens.

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 31, 2022, 17:5907/31/22
02/24/19
3190
PechangaDude

Oh by the way Moderator, you said "as you can see from above" see what? That I have a 65% chance or a 42%? Those are good odds, with odds like that I should have a Legendary almost every other shard!

It means if you pull 107 Voids on a 2x events you only have around a 65% chance of pulling a Legendary, If you pull like you are doing, during no event, your odds are only 42% to pull a leggo on 107 Void shards.

I get 1 Void Legendary every 419 days. I have pulled 3 total. And that is PLAYING the odds and pulling shards when rates are doubled, which is NOT what you are doing.

And now you used 38 Ancients, 22 Voids and 9 Sacreds outside of a 2x event. Personally I can't believe you are pulling shards outside of a 2x then telling everyone how you work in a casino and "know odds." Knowing odds, it would seem to me that you would wait until they were favorable.

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 31, 2022, 18:0607/31/22
02/24/19
3190
PechangaDude

Also, your percentages are in error. You can only pull ONE or TEN shards at a time with ancient and voids and only ONE sacred at a time; therefore, it doesn't matter if you start with 33 or 33000 shards. And I was referring to the moderator  quoting the comment made earlier. That person said 65 ir 42% which is in error also. I am NOT saying that the odds you quote are correct or not, although I don' believe they are that low. BUT what I am saying is the odds change disproportionately for individual players. You buy a lot, like me your odds of drawing a lego go down, you spend a little, your odds go up. I guess it is ok because it keeps the game on more of an equal basis between free to play people and spenders. But it really pisses me off because I like to be the best at what I do.

The odds do not change for anyone, not ever. They do not change for any reason at all, spending or not. They are clearly listed, required by a number of laws in countries where Raid is played to be listed, and required by law to not deviate from that.

The percentages stated above are correct. Each pull is an individual occurence, they are not linked. After pulling 100 sacreds you are NOT guaranteed to have 6 legendaries. Without a mercy system, you wouldn't be guaranteed ANY Sacreds. Every shard is a 6% chance. A brand new, shiny, independant. unrelated to anything else in the game, 6% chance. 

And no one is sending you any legendaries by email, my friend.

Jul 31, 2022, 18:0607/31/22
03/28/22
67

OMG, you NEVER have a 42% chance! Look at the game it tells you right there, you have 6% chance with sacred to pull a lego. 12% with a 2x event. I have done 10x AND 2x. PLEASE read all the posts b4 you post so you don't look foolish.

Jul 31, 2022, 18:1307/31/22
03/28/22
67

You are a moderator, no offence intended but you are not privy to the draws, you only know what you are told. If you are going to quote laws, then state the law. Don't send me any legendaries friend, just know that not another PENNY will be spent by me on shards. I have been playing for 4 months and have spent OVER 5k a month, how many customers like that do you have? IDC what you say the odds do change, and spending habits are followed. Have you personally seen the code for the RNG that pulls the champs? No you haven't you are just regurgitating the same useless verbiage that your supervisor told you. Take care, no hard feelings, going back to play, lol. Just never going to buy another shard, lol

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 31, 2022, 18:1507/31/22
12/30/20
1559
PechangaDude

OMG, you NEVER have a 42% chance! Look at the game it tells you right there, you have 6% chance with sacred to pull a lego. 12% with a 2x event. I have done 10x AND 2x. PLEASE read all the posts b4 you post so you don't look foolish.

I would strongly suggest you Google a probability calculator, and perhaps stop throwing stones in a glass house. 

Jul 31, 2022, 18:1907/31/22
06/25/20
2997
PechangaDude

OMG, you NEVER have a 42% chance! Look at the game it tells you right there, you have 6% chance with sacred to pull a lego. 12% with a 2x event. I have done 10x AND 2x. PLEASE read all the posts b4 you post so you don't look foolish.

Man. You seem to claim you know something about probabilities, but you really aren't demonstrating that at all.

NOBODY said you ever have a 42% chance. Do you understand how probabilities work? The point is, AFTER pulling X number, your probability of having received it is going to be 1 - [r]^x, where r is the probability of not getting it. So, if you have a 0.5% chance from a single pull, and you pull once, your chance of getting a positive result is 1 - 0.995 = 0.005 = 0.5% (obviously). If you do it 100 times, your chance of getting a positive result FROM THOSE 100 PULLS is 1 - (0.995)^100 = 40%.

To put it another way, that means that if you pull 100 shards, 40% of the time you will end up with a positive result, and 60% of the time you will end up with a negative result.

If you pull 200 shards, 63% of the time you will end up with a positive result, and 37% of the time you will end up with a negative result.

IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL EVER HAVE A 63% CHANCE TO GET A POSITIVE RESULT FROM ONE PULL. 

Jul 31, 2022, 18:1907/31/22
03/28/22
67

Why do I need a probability calculator. The odds are posted righ there in the game. 6% to draw a lego from a sacred shard, one shard or a million shards. 2x event gives you 12x. Pretty cut and dry don't you think? I am not throwing stones, I have insulted nobody. No foul language or anything like that. But you people are mistaken.