My Arbiter is also 335 AND then decrease the speed lead's TM with Hegemon. Sometimes the SECOND speed champ beats my 335 Arbiter, as just happened. Arena is just tough some days.
Yep it's very tough, I can stay in G4 comfortably but speeds have gone up, I use Kymer, Lyssandra, Serris and Kreela in my speed team, if that does not fit I have a tanky Duchess, Tower in shield set with 94k hp, Rotos and King
Not saying the Arena did not get harder because it has but....
My Arb is only at 290 speed and I do not have much issue staying in G4, there are enough Single champ teams out there for me to stay in Low G4 between 50 to 100 points in is easy for me.
My arb is around 328 and I still win a lot of races against other arbs in g4, the second tm booster is who I usually have to worry about. So I avoid them unless I feel like subbing tormin back in. But that comp is boring
My arb is around 328 and I still win a lot of races against other arbs in g4, the second tm booster is who I usually have to worry about. So I avoid them unless I feel like subbing tormin back in. But that comp is boring
228? 328 maybe?
228? 328 maybe?
You forget Harbs is a WHALE!
He just spends his way out 😁
You forget Harbs is a WHALE!
He just spends his way out 😁
No, he is probably just fighting the BOTS that he refuses to acknowledge exist!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
228? 328 maybe?
328 SORRY!
328 SORRY!
228 you mean.
328 SORRY!
super sicrit go 2nd arbiter mod build?
Seeing everyone talk about how fast their Arbiter is making me feel sorry for my poor Lyssandra and her measly speed of 278 😢
Seeing everyone talk about how fast their Arbiter is making me feel sorry for my poor Lyssandra and her measly speed of 278 😢
Speed sucks IMO.
I have been stuck at 290 for months now and farm dragon as much as a I can stomach and still have not gotten any better items 😠
I use Lyssandra because of the boost up and down who's at 339, Kymer has the 30% speed aura, Serris strips and def down and Kreela AOE's, if that isn't enough Kymer resets Lyssandra goes again, I'm on manual for this bit so Serris can AOE and Kreela can AOE or attack one followed by ally attack, if thats still not enough Kymar goes with AOE and buff remove
Speed sucks IMO.
I have been stuck at 290 for months now and farm dragon as much as a I can stomach and still have not gotten any better items 😠
I am lucky in that i am fairly stable in G4 up to now, but i think a lot of the comments are valid.
The one that rings true for me is by minim- asking if it is fun.
In an ideal world success in the arena would be determined by skill
In the real world its determined by who has spent cash and who has run
999 million dragon and fireknight runs.
Obviously that will not change, plarium WANT you to have to spend hours in game, because then you wont play any other games and wont spend on other games.
I personally think missions and great hall should have completion methods outside of arena, but i know it will never happen.
It has to be up to the individual to decide if it is 'fun' but it wont change.
I am lucky in that i am fairly stable in G4 up to now, but i think a lot of the comments are valid.
The one that rings true for me is by minim- asking if it is fun.
In an ideal world success in the arena would be determined by skill
In the real world its determined by who has spent cash and who has run
999 million dragon and fireknight runs.
Obviously that will not change, plarium WANT you to have to spend hours in game, because then you wont play any other games and wont spend on other games.
I personally think missions and great hall should have completion methods outside of arena, but i know it will never happen.
It has to be up to the individual to decide if it is 'fun' but it wont change.
to me the big thing is this ( Arena ) fun would be the key question.
I have some ideas on improvemnet but do not know if any good.
1. clean out inactive teams, set a time limit 2weeks 3weeks 1 month if not active in Arean remove the defense team. this should help lower ranks out alot IMO
2. Along with the bottle of engry for using 5 Arena takens award 5 gold metals,Now to the nay sayers how long would it take someone to level up their Gh with 5 gold metals a day? forever is the word you should be looking for. This way weather you win or lose the 5 battles you have something to show for it.
3. rework your match making to something else not sure what but it is sorely lacking especially in Bronze and silver
I completely agree with arena being a rip off. My team with 2 healers/revivers loses to much lower level teams often. My teams power lvl Is 104, & I've lost to teams under 60. Thats bull!
Also the game over pushes white characters! All the human looking charcters are damn near all white! Game needs way more charcters of color!
Several things I wanted to say to the recent people who posted in this thread:
@nanmzhao - You said the below statement:
Arbiter Speed :335
Lydia the Deathsiren Speed : 275
Madame Serris Speed :260
Rae Speed : 252
Barely stay at Gold IV.
The game is on going over 2 years. You should update your gears and champions.IF you want to stay at Gold Level. Speed 300 + is a basic requirement.
1st: I made underlines in your comment above so you can see your mistakes. I will now explain why they are mistakes.
2nd: Your team set up isn't Ideal
Lydia & Madam don't belong on the same team.
You should use only 1.
Madam & Lydia do Def Down which is their main function.
They have same role with a twist.
Madam Def Down comes with Enemy Buff Strip + Atk Down
Lydia Def Down comes with Weaken + Block Revive Attempt Passive
The hero you use will be based on enemy team you face.
If Enemy team has Shields or Buffs, You use Madam & Leave Lydia on Bench
If Enemy team has Revivers or No Buffs, You use Lydia & Leave Madam on Bench
Running Both on your team is a grave error which cost you hugely.
3rd: The mistake in having 2 Def Down heroes on the same team has caused you to build your nuker with to much Speed.
What you ideally want to do is add in a secondary turn meter champion which could provide a Speed Buff.
This would lower your nukers speed requirement which would allow you to put more damage in the nukers build.
4th: Players can stay in Gold 4 with out 300 Speed.
300 Speed is only necessary if your using a Speed Team in Gold 4.
Speed Teams are Squishy - They have to be fast + 1 shot enemy
If the enemy is faster or survives a Speed Team Nuke, Any Counter Attack is Fatal to the Speed Team
Defensive Teams are Sustainable - They don't have to be fast + can handle being hit
Defensive Teams can counter Speed Teams
I showed my Defensive Team on this thread or another thread like this one.
My fastest hero is Seeker with 215 Speed and my team slaughters people every day.
The next person I wanted to say something to is @forrestleigh
Forrest said the following statement:
Yep it's very tough, I can stay in G4 comfortably but speeds have gone up, I use Kymer, Lyssandra, Serris and Kreela in my speed team, if that does not fit I have a tanky Duchess, Tower in shield set with 94k hp, Rotos and King
1st: I made underlines in your comment above so you can see your mistakes. I will now explain why they are mistakes.
2nd: Your Speed team set up isn't Ideal.
What on earth are you doing Forrest?
I feel like you been in the Forums as long as I have.
You should be a Master Arena Tactician!
What the Crap is Serris & Kreela doing on your team?
Lyssandra & Kymar together create a Strategy which was Pioneered by Platinum Players to Deactivate Enemy Teams Reaction Accessories.
The Strategy involves the following:
Leader: Kymar - 30% Speed Aura
1st move: Lyssandra ----> TM + Spd Buff
2nd move: Kymar -------> AOE Buff Strip + Sleep
At this point, you want all 4 of the enemy heroes to move in between your 2 remaining heroes.
It will deactivate the Reaction Accessories + they will do no damage due to the sleep.
What makes no Sense is you chose Madam to go 3rd?
Madam Buff Strip in this position has no value because Kymar should have already do it.
Madam Atk Down in this position has no value because you want to 1 shot enemy.
The only thing Madam is providing for you is Def Down which isn't enough!
You could have a Def Down hero which provides more Value in this position.
- Ghostborn --> Def Down + Increase Atk for your Nuker
- Lydia -------> Def Down + Weaken
etc.
To your Credit, Kreela is a pretty clever hero choice by you.
Your team Lyssandra --> Kymar --> Madam doesn't have Increase Atk Buff.
You chose Kreela has your nuker because she can self Increase Atk Buff before she AOE nukes and her AOE hit is Strong hit with good multipliers.
Nevertheless, Kreela isn't the greatest Nuking option.
Kreela AOE hit is considered Strong and not Godlike because of her Base Atk.
Kreela Multiplier are equal if not slightly higher vs. other Godlike Nukers.
Kreela just suffers due to low base ATK 1200 vs. Godlike Nukers at 1500-1600 base ATK
Again, Forrest can stay in Gold 4 comfortably.
I am just being nitpicky.
However, It's important to be nitpicky & critical of your Arena teams.
This is how people improve.
Lord Shazar does Self Increase Atk Buff + AOE Godlike Nuke + Bombs for good measure
Does Forrest own these champions I am saying?
Maybe, he does
or
Maybe, he doesn't
You never really know what a person has in their Vault.
People pull heroes from Shards and are unsure about them all the time.
Instead of a champ that can self-buff his attack, Magnarr could be a great choice for teams that don't have a spot for increase attack buff. His damage is insane, 0.22 x hp x 2 (double hit) and 30% from books.
three times now i have had the game freeze while loading an arena team and had a token lost and loss registered
Do not punish players for the games instability
I specifically said Arb + second speed booster. Make sure you set up your defense team to look scary - arb + deacon + serris + nuker or w/e, so that people just don't try fighting you.
My point though is, if you don't find it fun, then just don't bother trying? Like, what's the middle ground you're hoping for? That it'll be easy to stay at your current rank without needing to put any effort into building teams that'll let you stay there?
Arb/Apo/Serris/Trunda
That's my defense team and they get picked on like a bad stepchild. I have no idea how people seem to know my team isn't fast enough...oh but they know. I figured Serris/Trunda after 2 speed champs would keep me safe...nope.
