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Harima worth chasing over Mortu, vs Duchess + Candy?

Harima worth chasing over Mortu, vs Duchess + Candy?

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Feb 23, 2023, 01:0502/23/23
06/25/20
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Harima worth chasing over Mortu, vs Duchess + Candy?

Really quite specifically that matchup. Worth it?

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harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:0702/23/23
02/24/19
7188

You mean would I rather have Harima or Mortu?

Right now Harima. Not even a question. Cause she really does a ton in fighting back against Barons and Georgis and such, as well as totally locking down Duchess, Mortu and Candy.

Feb 23, 2023, 01:1002/23/23
06/25/20
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harleQuinn

You mean would I rather have Harima or Mortu?

Right now Harima. Not even a question. Cause she really does a ton in fighting back against Barons and Georgis and such, as well as totally locking down Duchess, Mortu and Candy.

I guess the question is more "do you think it's worth trying to pull given the 2x + 10x, if resources aren't a concern, given I already have Mortu (and Rotos)"

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:1302/23/23
02/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

I guess the question is more "do you think it's worth trying to pull given the 2x + 10x, if resources aren't a concern, given I already have Mortu (and Rotos)"

Absolutely I do.

Specifically in that she locks down Mortu and Duchess, and lets you take a Baron nuke. With Taras/Marichka slowly taking over arena, a champ like Harima ups your Tag Defense game and adds in two other teams in Tag Offense that you can just count as a win (Mortu teams and Duchess/Candy teams)

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:1702/23/23
02/24/19
7188

Honestly Krama, I am debating about how many hundreds of ancients I am willing to open to try and get her.

200? 300? 400? And you know we don't get those fast, you and I, so it's a HUGE resource outlay I am willing to consider here.

Feb 23, 2023, 01:3802/23/23
06/25/20
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harleQuinn

Honestly Krama, I am debating about how many hundreds of ancients I am willing to open to try and get her.

200? 300? 400? And you know we don't get those fast, you and I, so it's a HUGE resource outlay I am willing to consider here.

Convincing enough for me. Guess we'll see how it goes ... I have 300, and like 25k gems :)

dthorne04Moderator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:4902/23/23
12/30/20
5320
harleQuinn

Honestly Krama, I am debating about how many hundreds of ancients I am willing to open to try and get her.

200? 300? 400? And you know we don't get those fast, you and I, so it's a HUGE resource outlay I am willing to consider here.

This is such a fascinating spot for you. We've been talking for a bit, trying to plan around an upcoming guarantee but I am leaning towards this being where you just go in. 

Just thinking about affinity champs that move the needle for you (PvE/PvP, and I'm missing a few, perhaps listing ones that don't fit as well): Harima, Candy, 2nd Ukko, Cybele, Staltus, 2nd Duchess, 2nd Mortu, Nekmo, Teodor, Elva, Goffred, Hephraak, Kimi, Michinaki, Rotos. 

That excludes champs like Valk, few others in that area of value. So, there's about 15/~140 pullable affinity legos we'd be happy to see. Some of these move the needle a lot more than others (looking at you Harima), but I think we can math it out a bit. If the next guaranteed ancients is another champion that lends itself more to utilty or a counter - like Goffred - then I think we'd be disappointed we didn't go after Harima here.

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:5402/23/23
02/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Convincing enough for me. Guess we'll see how it goes ... I have 300, and like 25k gems :)

More than me even :D

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 01:5902/23/23
02/24/19
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dthorne04

This is such a fascinating spot for you. We've been talking for a bit, trying to plan around an upcoming guarantee but I am leaning towards this being where you just go in. 

Just thinking about affinity champs that move the needle for you (PvE/PvP, and I'm missing a few, perhaps listing ones that don't fit as well): Harima, Candy, 2nd Ukko, Cybele, Staltus, 2nd Duchess, 2nd Mortu, Nekmo, Teodor, Elva, Goffred, Hephraak, Kimi, Michinaki, Rotos. 

That excludes champs like Valk, few others in that area of value. So, there's about 15/~140 pullable affinity legos we'd be happy to see. Some of these move the needle a lot more than others (looking at you Harima), but I think we can math it out a bit. If the next guaranteed ancients is another champion that lends itself more to utilty or a counter - like Goffred - then I think we'd be disappointed we didn't go after Harima here.

I think Harima is the best in that list actually, followed by Nekmo then Hephraak. Everything else I can kind of make work, but they are all fairly unique in what they do.

I feel like Harima is equal on my "need this" list with Baron and Nekhret.

dthorne04Moderator
Feb 23, 2023, 02:0402/23/23
12/30/20
5320
harleQuinn

I think Harima is the best in that list actually, followed by Nekmo then Hephraak. Everything else I can kind of make work, but they are all fairly unique in what they do.

I feel like Harima is equal on my "need this" list with Baron and Nekhret.

Was pretty much in the same place while making the list, just looking for champs that wouldn't be the worst consolation prizes relative to what you need and are looking for. Some of those dupes - namely Duchess/Mortu - would be nice, I think. We're just looking for such a narrow range of champs at this point. 😂

Feb 23, 2023, 02:1902/23/23
02/11/21
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1000% She just does so much. Pair her with Rotos, I know you're not a fan of double nuker team, but she has much more utility than just a nuker. 

Tanky? Check

Control? Check

Damage mitigation? CHEEEEECK

Single target nuke? Check

AOE nuke? Check

Decrease enemy defense (permanent)? Check

Boost own defense (permanent)? Check

Zargala-esque "if I kill one, I'm nuking the rest"......love this

Owns Demonspawn? Check. 


Feb 23, 2023, 02:2202/23/23
02/11/22
531

I got no clue where my mercy is, anywhere between 0 and 220, i just cant remember LOL. That said, i have 230 ancients. I will pull until a lego pops up, and hopefully, i get Harima or someone else as interesting.

I saw a dude open 1000 ancients a month ago for Kymar 10x. He got 14 legos, no Kymar. So... is it worth going all in until you're broke? maybe... or maybe not. Depends on your tolerance for disapppointment i guess.

Feb 23, 2023, 08:3702/23/23
Feb 23, 2023, 08:40(edited)
02/28/22
246

From what I've seen, and this isn't my maths so it could be totally wrong it's not really 10x a better chance to pull, if I look at the event I think if I pull a lego the chances of that lego are 10x more likely to be the event lego

It dosen't actually equate to that though from what I've seen - seems a bit smoke and mirrors branding if thats true

Feb 23, 2023, 14:5602/23/23
06/25/20
6151

Even more of an incentive now, I suppose, eh?

Feb 23, 2023, 17:1902/23/23
12/19/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Even more of an incentive now, I suppose, eh?

What is the more incentive? 

I still want mortu more than harima... 

Feb 23, 2023, 17:3402/23/23
06/25/20
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Trips

What is the more incentive? 

I still want mortu more than harima... 

As per Plarium's announcement:

Also, from 08:00 UTC Friday, February 24 to 08:00 UTC Monday, February 27, we're running a special Champion Chase Tournament.

Get Champions by any means necessary. Take 1st place to win an amazing Champion!

If you manage to take 1st place on the Leaderboard in your Group during this Tournament, you will get:

- Thylessia (if you're between Levels 1-50)
- Shemnath (if you're between Levels 51-80)
- Corvis the Corruptor (if you're between Levels 81-100) 

To be totally honest I think I'd have preferred Shemnath to Corvis, seeing as I already have dungeon solo champs.

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 18:2502/23/23
02/24/19
7188
Trips

What is the more incentive? 

I still want mortu more than harima... 

Mortu over Harima until you see your Mortu getting absolutely farmed in the defense logs by Harima. 

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 19:0202/23/23
02/24/19
7188
kramaswamy.kr

As per Plarium's announcement:

Also, from 08:00 UTC Friday, February 24 to 08:00 UTC Monday, February 27, we're running a special Champion Chase Tournament.

Get Champions by any means necessary. Take 1st place to win an amazing Champion!

If you manage to take 1st place on the Leaderboard in your Group during this Tournament, you will get:

- Thylessia (if you're between Levels 1-50)
- Shemnath (if you're between Levels 51-80)
- Corvis the Corruptor (if you're between Levels 81-100) 

To be totally honest I think I'd have preferred Shemnath to Corvis, seeing as I already have dungeon solo champs.

How many shards you willing to burn into ash for the Crow?

Feb 23, 2023, 19:2002/23/23
06/25/20
6151
harleQuinn

How many shards you willing to burn into ash for the Crow?

Short answer? Almost certainly zero. I'll be pulling probably around 200 shards this weekend for Harima, but I'll only add onto that for the champ chase tourney if it looks like a shoe-in.

harleQuinnModerator
Feb 23, 2023, 20:2702/23/23
02/24/19
7188
kramaswamy.kr

Short answer? Almost certainly zero. I'll be pulling probably around 200 shards this weekend for Harima, but I'll only add onto that for the champ chase tourney if it looks like a shoe-in.

I'm definitely in for 200 myself. Deciding how many gems I am willing to sacrifice for more shots at Harima though. I think I can get a little over 450 blues going. It would be more, but I spent a LOT locking Pythion down since I was going to be gone for the last couple events and needed the summon rush points.

Feb 23, 2023, 20:4002/23/23
06/25/20
6151
harleQuinn

I'm definitely in for 200 myself. Deciding how many gems I am willing to sacrifice for more shots at Harima though. I think I can get a little over 450 blues going. It would be more, but I spent a LOT locking Pythion down since I was going to be gone for the last couple events and needed the summon rush points.

I could get about 500 if I really wanted, but the act of trying to sort out my champ inventory is enough of a decentive for me to not go down that rabbit hole :)