All Categories

Ultimate Deathknight and new players

Ultimate Deathknight and new players

Search
Comments
Nov 26, 2022, 11:2211/26/22
10/15/20
2046
Deleted

Sry, but sure is my fault when i see at topic name with "Ultimate Deathknight and new players" and put here some GoldV. Maybe new players starting at gold five.

I see here Rotos,Tormin etc. ROTFL

I thought this topic started for starters PvPers who has difficulty against a free lego which got instantly 6star gears.

Showing that there are few and beatable teams with UDK in Gold V proofes, that this champ itself is not overpowered and can be beaten with the old school method of climbing in arena: get gud.

Threads like this normally go the following way: complainer opens the thread and complains how unbeatable UDK is. Somebody (most times myself) writes heal reduction or destroy set. Complainer has no arguments anymore, thread could be closed. But no, complainer no. 2 joins the thread, obviously not reading any of the posts made before and complains how overpowered UDK is. I repeat heal reduction or destroy set. Complainer has no arguments anymore, thread could be closed. But no, complainer no. 3 joins the thread, obviously not reading any of the posts made before and complains how overpowered UDK is. Repeat. Infinite regress.

There are easy to obtain solutions to beat UDK. Take them! Stop complaining.


Heal Reduction or Destroy set!

Nov 26, 2022, 13:5411/26/22
06/20/19
2181
Deleted

Sry, but sure is my fault when i see at topic name with "Ultimate Deathknight and new players" and put here some GoldV. Maybe new players starting at gold five.

I see here Rotos,Tormin etc. ROTFL

I thought this topic started for starters PvPers who has difficulty against a free lego which got instantly 6star gears.

Do you see any one that wasn't anew player at one time?  Sorry if you're only looking for the personal experiences of people that have none.

Nov 26, 2022, 16:0111/26/22
604
Skadi

Showing that there are few and beatable teams with UDK in Gold V proofes, that this champ itself is not overpowered and can be beaten with the old school method of climbing in arena: get gud.

Threads like this normally go the following way: complainer opens the thread and complains how unbeatable UDK is. Somebody (most times myself) writes heal reduction or destroy set. Complainer has no arguments anymore, thread could be closed. But no, complainer no. 2 joins the thread, obviously not reading any of the posts made before and complains how overpowered UDK is. I repeat heal reduction or destroy set. Complainer has no arguments anymore, thread could be closed. But no, complainer no. 3 joins the thread, obviously not reading any of the posts made before and complains how overpowered UDK is. Repeat. Infinite regress.

There are easy to obtain solutions to beat UDK. Take them! Stop complaining.


Heal Reduction or Destroy set!

In your style. Next time i will put here "Ultimate Deathknight and new players" pictures from UDK teams which killing other teams in Plat leagues, thats really appertain to this topic.

Other thing, opened with "UDK Unbeateable..." sarcasm,disdainful title. I never told UDK unbeateable. No one told UDK make difficulty at gold V. Problem at the low lvl leagues, because UDK came max gear Gold V a bad example. So, dont hanging always a word "Unbeateable". There is a complaining. 

"obviously not reading any of the posts " Yes , thats why you guys skipped those posts, which is "obviously" disprove some assertions what you guys telling. Easy for UDK beat with starter accounts etc etc. Just some example from those answers: Speed teams works, i killed UDK thats the proof UDK easy for starters (told with old player experience against, a 30k weaker power weaker bad team composition 44k vs 14k). Change better Kael to weaker Athel and you will have specialised counter against UDK LOL. 

Talk about difficulties in start and forget the i know just the truth with bad examples such GoldV.

Nov 26, 2022, 16:1411/26/22
604
AtotehZ

Destroy gear is probably the best advice I've seen against UDK specifically. I'm getting a lot of it right now since I'm farming for Warmaiden copies for skill upgrading.


i


Nov 26, 2022, 17:3211/26/22
10/15/20
2046
Deleted


i


Wow, 1% of the top 100 players uses UDK - a champion everyone has. I mean, certain void legendaries like Nekhret would be used more often, but not everybody, even among whales, has them. But a champ that was given for free to everybody is in one Platinum team. Must be unbeatable, this Ultimate Death Knight guy.


P.S.

Change better Kael to weaker Athel and you will have specialised counter against UDK LOL.  

I argue that Athel is the better choice as starterchamp since years. But that has nothing to do with UDK, and most other forum users don't agree. In short: I prefer her capability of self-buffing her attack in arena vs. his poisen in CB in early game.

In the end, that doesn't really matter. Neither will Athel be your arena nuker in endgame, nor Kael your CB poisener.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 26, 2022, 18:1011/26/22
02/24/19
7211
Skadi

Wow, 1% of the top 100 players uses UDK - a champion everyone has. I mean, certain void legendaries like Nekhret would be used more often, but not everybody, even among whales, has them. But a champ that was given for free to everybody is in one Platinum team. Must be unbeatable, this Ultimate Death Knight guy.


P.S.

Change better Kael to weaker Athel and you will have specialised counter against UDK LOL.  

I argue that Athel is the better choice as starterchamp since years. But that has nothing to do with UDK, and most other forum users don't agree. In short: I prefer her capability of self-buffing her attack in arena vs. his poisen in CB in early game.

In the end, that doesn't really matter. Neither will Athel be your arena nuker in endgame, nor Kael your CB poisener.

Very few people in Plat right now will be there at reset. Saying that even 1 of the top 100 people are using UDK is a huge stretch on it's own. :)

Also, I totally agree that Athel is the better starter. Self buffs + extra turn means a great deal early. You cycle back to her nuke faster, and can do it with an Inc Atk buff. 3 hitter is more important in FK than poisons are in Dragon. And her Weaken means 25% extra damage from your whole team verses especially bosses.

dthorne04Moderator
Nov 26, 2022, 18:3911/26/22
Nov 26, 2022, 18:41(edited)
12/30/20
5332
Deleted

In your style. Next time i will put here "Ultimate Deathknight and new players" pictures from UDK teams which killing other teams in Plat leagues, thats really appertain to this topic.

Other thing, opened with "UDK Unbeateable..." sarcasm,disdainful title. I never told UDK unbeateable. No one told UDK make difficulty at gold V. Problem at the low lvl leagues, because UDK came max gear Gold V a bad example. So, dont hanging always a word "Unbeateable". There is a complaining. 

"obviously not reading any of the posts " Yes , thats why you guys skipped those posts, which is "obviously" disprove some assertions what you guys telling. Easy for UDK beat with starter accounts etc etc. Just some example from those answers: Speed teams works, i killed UDK thats the proof UDK easy for starters (told with old player experience against, a 30k weaker power weaker bad team composition 44k vs 14k). Change better Kael to weaker Athel and you will have specialised counter against UDK LOL. 

Talk about difficulties in start and forget the i know just the truth with bad examples such GoldV.

I wasn't aware you were responsible for dictating what direction a thread goes and I'm also not sure why you are making this about you. But since you are: Considering how often you change the topic and move goalposts during your complaints and whining, you would think you'd be used to topics of discussion within a thread changing by now. Seems quite hypocritical to me.

Furthermore, that thread title from @harleQuinn has nothing to do with this thread, nor you specifically. Calling is disdainful is just flat out rude. Meanwhile, the only disdainful thing I've seen is your attitude and behavior. Unlike you, she would like to help players improve both in their approach to the game and enjoyment of it, as well. She elects to be constructive rather than endlessly whine, insult and complain about everything. 

Players on the forum try to give you advice in relation to your issues, are polite and patient in spite of the constant stream of negativity. If you spent a fraction of the time that you dedicate to negativity and belligerence to improving in the game then perhaps you wouldn't be so miserable. 

Nov 26, 2022, 18:4111/26/22
604
Skadi

Wow, 1% of the top 100 players uses UDK - a champion everyone has. I mean, certain void legendaries like Nekhret would be used more often, but not everybody, even among whales, has them. But a champ that was given for free to everybody is in one Platinum team. Must be unbeatable, this Ultimate Death Knight guy.


P.S.

Change better Kael to weaker Athel and you will have specialised counter against UDK LOL.  

I argue that Athel is the better choice as starterchamp since years. But that has nothing to do with UDK, and most other forum users don't agree. In short: I prefer her capability of self-buffing her attack in arena vs. his poisen in CB in early game.

In the end, that doesn't really matter. Neither will Athel be your arena nuker in endgame, nor Kael your CB poisener.

Such interesting when you not complain when other player in your side link a bad example again ? 1% no matter, when this is an answer when post came here with a bad example again.


i


But still UDK and new players the problem. Can win against UDK teams, but hard thing when someone is starter, dont get good items, monthly farming needs for good items (6star, but UDK started 6star items). Long grinding needs for good skills. At start noone has great hall developments (PvP need for this), not has fully masteries (lower stats.lower damage input) etc etc etc. Who not see this, blind or cover his eyes.

For a starter players who not have luck and pulling good champs against UDK, really will enjoying the long battles against UDK teams where can win ? When they trying refreshing opponent teams see there 99% UDK teams. Specially really those players will enjoy thats who missed the UDK free event? Thats really good for plarium, when they left the games? 

Seems to me when read few post. Those players how dare wrote their problem, when facing with this problem. I felt same thing here, when many players wrote the problems at PvP when the point system changed and old players answered specially the Plarium and their workers. everything is fine +3 points for a win and 14 minus ponts for losses a good approaching for PvP. For three weeks i wrote many times thats not good will generate a big problem, all answer was this is a stupidity etec. What happened after few weeks ? The whole arena collapsed and a big silence came from other side. 





Nov 26, 2022, 19:1111/26/22
Nov 26, 2022, 19:25(edited)
10/15/20
2046
Deleted

Such interesting when you not complain when other player in your side link a bad example again ? 1% no matter, when this is an answer when post came here with a bad example again.


i


But still UDK and new players the problem. Can win against UDK teams, but hard thing when someone is starter, dont get good items, monthly farming needs for good items (6star, but UDK started 6star items). Long grinding needs for good skills. At start noone has great hall developments (PvP need for this), not has fully masteries (lower stats.lower damage input) etc etc etc. Who not see this, blind or cover his eyes.

For a starter players who not have luck and pulling good champs against UDK, really will enjoying the long battles against UDK teams where can win ? When they trying refreshing opponent teams see there 99% UDK teams. Specially really those players will enjoy thats who missed the UDK free event? Thats really good for plarium, when they left the games? 

Seems to me when read few post. Those players how dare wrote their problem, when facing with this problem. I felt same thing here, when many players wrote the problems at PvP when the point system changed and old players answered specially the Plarium and their workers. everything is fine +3 points for a win and 14 minus ponts for losses a good approaching for PvP. For three weeks i wrote many times thats not good will generate a big problem, all answer was this is a stupidity etec. What happened after few weeks ? The whole arena collapsed and a big silence came from other side. 





I don't know what you want to say.

I showed an easy win vs. a team with UDK to proof that this champ is not an overpowered superchamp that is unbeatable. Of course I have other champs on my account than a fresh player, who has to use his starterchamp to nuke and not Ninja and Magnarr. But in Gold 5 I have other opponents than a fresh starter as well. You don't find teams where UDK is paired with Aniri and Ma'Shallad in Bronze 1, and the UDK I will met in Gold 5 will have other equip than an UDK from Bronze 1.

[If players that complain about UDK would have to fight vs. Ma'Shallad... "This champ is so unfair, I never can act, my champs don't get a turn, nerf Ma'Shallad" threads would pop up all day. But that's just a sidenote.]

This team was an easy win, because UDK alone does not brake the game. Unless he is paired with some champs that have synergy with his passive he is not even good in arena. 3 random champs + UDK is easy prey, in Gold 5 as well as in Bronze 1. 

In Bronze 1, just started, you can't outdamage UDK with a Magnarr like I can. But you can build a team of Starterchamp (free), Warmaiden (campaign drop), Diabolist [pre day 30] (campaign drop) or High Khatun [post day 30] (free) + one champ with heal reduction or one additional damage dealer in destroy set. Everybody who has enough interest in the game to find this forum and post a complain thread about UDK is able to build the described team. 


How to beat UDK: Heal Reduction or Destroy set!

Nov 26, 2022, 19:5011/26/22
10/25/19
50
OccamsRazor

I come here every few days to read the comments by people trying to convince everyone that UDK is fair and balanced.


Every time I need a good laugh. 

Interesting. I come here whenever I'm hungry and feed on the tears of all the players who complain about UDK being unfair and the sky being blue. 

dthorne04Moderator
Nov 26, 2022, 20:0911/26/22
12/30/20
5332
Deleted

Such interesting when you not complain when other player in your side link a bad example again ? 1% no matter, when this is an answer when post came here with a bad example again.


i


But still UDK and new players the problem. Can win against UDK teams, but hard thing when someone is starter, dont get good items, monthly farming needs for good items (6star, but UDK started 6star items). Long grinding needs for good skills. At start noone has great hall developments (PvP need for this), not has fully masteries (lower stats.lower damage input) etc etc etc. Who not see this, blind or cover his eyes.

For a starter players who not have luck and pulling good champs against UDK, really will enjoying the long battles against UDK teams where can win ? When they trying refreshing opponent teams see there 99% UDK teams. Specially really those players will enjoy thats who missed the UDK free event? Thats really good for plarium, when they left the games? 

Seems to me when read few post. Those players how dare wrote their problem, when facing with this problem. I felt same thing here, when many players wrote the problems at PvP when the point system changed and old players answered specially the Plarium and their workers. everything is fine +3 points for a win and 14 minus ponts for losses a good approaching for PvP. For three weeks i wrote many times thats not good will generate a big problem, all answer was this is a stupidity etec. What happened after few weeks ? The whole arena collapsed and a big silence came from other side. 






i

You have a very interesting - and incorrect - recollection of events. From this thread, during the exact time you're talking about: 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/615209_arena-is-crap-again/

As you can see, @harleQuinn was the first person in that thread, as well as making this post less than a week later:


i

Less than a week later we saw the announcement of Arena changes:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/615853_arena-changes--from-digest/

Doesn't seem much like silence to me at all. In reality, Quinn was collecting feedback, advocating for you and the player base to see improvements in Arena.

Nov 27, 2022, 00:3311/27/22
Nov 27, 2022, 00:35(edited)
04/06/22
143
SirComander

Interesting. I come here whenever I'm hungry and feed on the tears of all the players who complain about UDK being unfair and the sky being blue. 

ಠ_ಠ 


But... despite doing such a thing, you're certainly NOT a troll, right?

Nov 27, 2022, 05:5111/27/22
10/25/19
50
OccamsRazor

ಠ_ಠ 


But... despite doing such a thing, you're certainly NOT a troll, right?

I replied to your sarcastic comment with my own sarcastic comment...... Yet I'm the troll?


Interesting.

Nov 28, 2022, 01:2311/28/22
04/06/22
143
SirComander

I replied to your sarcastic comment with my own sarcastic comment...... Yet I'm the troll?


Interesting.

My OC was not directed towards you, or anyone.

Nov 28, 2022, 06:0711/28/22
02/11/21
932
OccamsRazor

My OC was not directed towards you, or anyone.

"I come here every few days to read the comments by people trying to convince everyone that UDK is fair and balanced.

Every time I need a good laugh."

Doesn't sound like it's not directed at anyone....it quite literally implies that you find the people's explanations of why UDK is not OP laughable.....gee, I wonder why anyone would take it the wrong way. 

Whatever you're about, be about it....own it. Don't throw snarky comments people's way, and then act like a victim as soon as someone trolls you back. 

You want me to show you a successful arena team that doesn't use UDK? I have 4, neither one of them uses him. 

Nov 28, 2022, 06:1211/28/22
02/11/21
932

Here, I don't even know why I threw Vogoth and MM in there, they were just around, and are not built for arena at all....just wanted to weaken my team enough to prove a point. Figured Arbiter vs Arbiter is fair, then it's my Konstantin against Siphi, Rotos, and Mr. OP himself. 


When I ask people to show how they build their nukers, this is why. 

i


Nov 28, 2022, 07:2411/28/22
10/25/19
50
OccamsRazor

My OC was not directed towards you, or anyone.

Didn't say it was. I merely just replied to it.

Nov 28, 2022, 22:1111/28/22
09/02/22
176
AtotehZ

I know what you're all saying is true. My issue is universally introducing something like UDK to the place new players are and then making the newest ones slug through it without. It makes the game less fun now.

I'm very close to rank 6 Kael, but ironically UDK is a partial reason I'm held back. I need energy rewards to speed things up and some are arena related.

 I'm just curious as to the statement above about UDK in arena holding you back. 

I may be wrong but the daily energy mission that is tied to arena is to "Fight" in Classic Arena 5 times... not WIN 5 classic arena battles. 

Pretty sure you can just start a battle and immediately exit out of 5 in a row to get your energy. 

Not saying that doing that is "fun". Not even disagreeing that UDK makes arena hard for new players. Just pointing out that UDK is only really preventing you from progressing in Arena levels and shouldn't be holding
you back from grinding levels with Kael.  

Nov 28, 2022, 23:4111/28/22
10/24/22
1

You say that UDK is not being given out any more, but I got one last week...?  I have built him up to max stats (Legendary gear, max level, max spells, max ascension, max scrolls) and he is now a powerhouse in pretty much every team I field !


FWIW, I have only been playing a little over a month, so am pretty new too.

Nov 28, 2022, 23:4711/28/22
10/15/20
2046
Burt Main

You say that UDK is not being given out any more, but I got one last week...?  I have built him up to max stats (Legendary gear, max level, max spells, max ascension, max scrolls) and he is now a powerhouse in pretty much every team I field !


FWIW, I have only been playing a little over a month, so am pretty new too.

UDK was given for free to every player some time ago.

You can still obtain him from shards, like you did.

The topic is locked. You cannot post comments.