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Sep 11, 2020, 13:1109/11/20
05/17/19
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Dutchess Lilitu rebelance

Hello all!

The next patch, 2.20, is scheduled for the mid of this month, if all goes well. It is going to include a lot of exciting things: Artifact Forge, Advanced Quests, and, of course, Champions Balancing. Yesterday, we posted the Update Highlights 2.20 and received a lot of feedback about the upcoming changes. Some of you were happy about what's coming up and for some this news brought certain concerns. We have thoroughly analyzed your feedback and decided to revert the change for Dutchess Lilitu since your arguments against the Shroud of Souls CD increase are reasonable and well-grounded. Thus, we are not going to implement any changes in her kit in 2.20.

Have a wonderful weekend ahead! 

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Sep 11, 2020, 16:1909/11/20
Sep 11, 2020, 16:37(edited)
06/12/20
1
Oh!!! This is a great new!!! thanks uncle plarium!!! visit us on spanish 2 channel!
Sep 11, 2020, 17:5709/11/20
01/01/20
7
The "nerf" on Madame is laughable, also why you ignored some champs like mortu, lord champfort, grohak is beyond me...
Sep 11, 2020, 19:1609/11/20
07/09/20
27
Fantastic job on this. Would hate to see any champ quality lessened especially when you offer so many disgustingly bad to mediocre legendary champs already.
Sep 12, 2020, 02:5409/12/20
Sep 14, 2020, 22:40(edited)
05/13/20
32

Some of your "balance" is questionable. Many epics are still unplayable, Madame Serris "balance" is very questionable. Increase cooldown of ALREADY BROKEN ability, ok...what does that fix? NOTHING.The nerf on Madame is NOT A NERF, increase cooldown mean nothing when her ability can DO THREE THINGS.


I hope you do know there are many many more other unplayable epic champions, those also need balance. 

Sep 12, 2020, 05:1809/12/20
01/21/20
2
Thank you. Very appreciated. If you feel you need to rebalance her, do it. But take a different approach. 
Sep 13, 2020, 18:1909/13/20
Sep 13, 2020, 18:36(edited)
08/19/19
8

How about the other 2 PvE nerfs to Madame and Siphi? Cooldown adjustments don´t do anything for the PvP strenght. They just get nerfed in PvE and pisses off anyone that relies on them in "all" the rest of the content in your game. Just like everyone that complained about their Dutches beeing nerfed the same way, and screwed up their 1-2 key UN clanboss runs? Glad for them they got to keep her as she should be and didn´t have to rework their teams. Recall those changes untill you have thought that through a couple more times. Alot of ppl that isn´t that fortunate doing 1-2 keys with dutches and other amazing champions but rely on Madame and/or Siphi to do what they can in Clanboss, dungeons and factionwars.


Madame Serris stripp debuff down to 2 rounds from 3 rounds. That will not change one thing in arena. But it will screw up everones PvE progress that rely on her.


Siphi same thing and Increase the cooldown from 3 to 4 turns booked. That´s her thing and she is a VOID Legendary for petes sake. That changes nothing in PvP but screws up everything in PvE. If you think a little less turnmeter boost on top of that same buff as well as 15%to 10% heal on her passiv.  All PvE nerfs.

You do not want champions with 2 turn buffs of this nature on 4 turn cooldown on any champion in PvE content. And you do it to a "VOID LEGENDARY". Are you nuts?! 

You have opened the box now. Who can trust you not to ruin champions now? Why would I spend alot of time and money trying to get champions just to have them nerfed to the point they no longer fill their purpose?


No! Not everyone have dedicated PvP and PvE champions for every aspect of the game either. You have to do your "rebalancing" with alot gentler toutch. Also it should have the effect you say you are trying to accoplish shouldn´t it? PvP nerf and all it does is ruin PvE viability. 


And you realise how anyone that doesn´t have Dutches but one of these and rely on them to clear content feels after the elite complained and got to keep their dutches unnerfed? They had good arguments for why that wasn´t nessasary? Did that perhaps relate in some way to these to as well? Maybe?



In the end we need champions to strive for, something everyone wants. But if you can nerf them this hard WTF is the point? A realy dangerous presidence is set.

Both nerfs and buffs should be handeled carefully and incrementally if you are not talking extreemes and absolutley if you don´t know the results. And you can´t leave some and nerf others of same S-tierness, and at the same time buff others to that same S-tierness. Everytime you do you will piss ppl off and loose them at the same time as you make everyone know they might be next so what´s the point.

SENDAModerator
Sep 14, 2020, 08:0409/14/20
05/05/19
96

Champions like Teela or Grohak are definetly going to get reworked, just not in this patch. There'll be more champion reworks in the future


rainboweyes said:


The "nerf" on Madame is laughable, also why you ignored some champs like mortu, lord champfort, grohak is beyond me...

Sep 14, 2020, 17:2709/14/20
12/19/19
2824

SENDA said:


Champions like Teela or Grohak are definetly going to get reworked, just not in this patch. There'll be more champion reworks in the future


rainboweyes said:


The "nerf" on Madame is laughable, also why you ignored some champs like mortu, lord champfort, grohak is beyond me...


Mr Moderator, 


How about AI  fixes instead of reworks, or in addition.  Very simple stuff that makes certain champs much worse against CB or FK right now.
GreenKnightCommunity Manager
Sep 15, 2020, 15:0009/15/20
04/06/20
555

Hi!

TRIPS said:

How about AI fixes instead of reworks, or in addition. Very simple stuff that makes certain champs much worse against CB or FK right now.

We are working on AI improvements, but due to shared AI for most champions, such changes can have unintended consequences. Sadly, from a developing standpoint, it is not a simple change.

Sir PW Stache said:

Thank you. Very appreciated. If you feel you need to rebalance her, do it. But take a different approach. 

You are welcome! We are planning more balance changes in the future and hope with our players' help to further improve the balance of the game.


Thank you for your quick response to the change.

Have a nice day and stay safe.

Oct 2, 2020, 01:5610/02/20
10/02/20
1
Hi
Oct 14, 2020, 09:2510/14/20
Oct 14, 2020, 09:26(edited)
04/17/20
47

We need buff and thinks again, many champion need a buff to balance power and threaten S rank lego. You forgot some lego, battlesage, Faceless. 

Please bring other C rank, B rank epic and lego to the battle. Make the top platinum fear power of balance buff, not a balance nerf because we pay money.

And if you guy remove rare book, please increase rare book drop from brutal clanboss, thanks you.