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Classic Arena. The current state of things.

Classic Arena. The current state of things.

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Sep 16, 2020, 09:3209/16/20
05/05/19
96

First of all, player account level means NOTHING, just that he's been playing for longer, it doesn't mean he has good champions or that he knows how to play.

And that's exactly my point, different people have different luck when obtaining champions, getting artifacts etc, that's why you'll see Rotos or Siphis in arena. Seeing that arena team with Jizoh and Shaman tells me that person doesn't really know how arena goes or what kind of champions to use in arena, and that's why, despite his account level, he's on bronze 3.



downonluck said:



I'm tired of hearing excuse and tolerate this broken PVP system. I do not care, it doesn't matter how long these "OP Endgame" player not actively playing or how bad that player is or how players can "abuse" the system. When you have a LEVEL 70, SEVENTY endgame in Bronze, 

THAT IS THE PROBLEM. It is inexcusable for these kind of high level players in newbie rank griefing lowbie. You can say you "are working on fixing it all you want", let me know when it is fixed, until then I will provide feedback by stop spending my money until this ridiculous broken PVP system IS ACTUALLY GET FIXED. 





Sep 16, 2020, 23:0309/16/20
07/20/20
2

My biggest issue with the current arena system is the broken and abused ranking system..... getting real tired of searching teams to come across one i SHOULD win by all rights just goin off the ranking and pwr lvl alone....only to get 1 shotted by a team consisting of a 40 40 50 6*60 because they gimped the ranking system with the 2 geared/booked/mastered lvl 40's because the system is flawed and based off the lvls/stat and not gear.   


therefore they get placed against less geared players because the ranking system matched them.  


fix the ranking by all means please. it just so sad to see the amount of abuse.

Sep 17, 2020, 16:2709/17/20
09/13/20
1

I started playing 5 days ago. Noticed that I'm at the lowest possible rank and I can't compete with anyone that hasn't a level 1 - 1 champion defense team. (what a challenge). Can't progress in any possible objective right now because it's all arena matches challenges and I genuinely do not have fun playing that right now. Tought to myself 'Well I guess I'll get stronger doing other stuff'. Then I find this post and oh my god this is trifling. And an arena tournament just started. Fun times...

Sep 17, 2020, 17:0309/17/20
05/20/20
1

I've not read the many other posts in here so this may be repetitive but these are my ideas on arena fixes:



1) Attacking and defending


It's too difficult to judge whether you are going to win given the current state of the arena and how difficult it is. So when you attack, you should only lose half of the points that you would get if you win. On your defense team, you should gain 1 medal per defense victory because it does take effort to place a team that can withstand someone manually playing with access to all of their champs.



2) Available ranks


This happened to a game of mine (Rocket League). The ranks became too saturated with good players. They changed the ranks to have 5 possible ranks (bronze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond, champion). They added 4 sub ranks to those like you have and then added divisions beneath each sub rank. This spread out the competition and allowed for better progression and more even competition. Your base is huge and arena needs to adjust to that with its available ranks. People in Gold are overflowing into silver and silver into bronze. This fix would expand the arena for all players.



3) Speed interference


Right now, only two ways exist to counter the speed meta. Either you have Tormin or S-tier gear for a defense/resistance team. As progression is an issue, obtaining Tormin is more likely and more effective. You need to either introduce or rework current champs with passives that counter the turn meter abilities. Another legendary with a similar ability or some epics with slightly less intense abilities would be nice. Example would be WarChief. Make his A2 an AoE with an 80% max chance to provoke. Add a passive that activates the A2 anytime enemy team increases turn meter or decreases yours. Probably would lower the provoke chance but it's an idea. 



4) Attack/Accuracy vs. Defense/Resistance


This is more of a bonus idea but simply put, make defense and resistance scale more strongly against attack and accuracy. This could bring the tank meta back or other variations. This "whoever is faster wins" is getting quite boring. Arena matches are a lot more fun when it lasts longer than 15 seconds. 



This may fall on deaf ears and these changes will probably never see the light of day. Apologize for sounding like a broken record if I have echoed others concerns but here you go. Cheers!

Sep 18, 2020, 01:1609/18/20
09/14/19
68

My biggest issue with classic  Arena is that it's FCKING broken to all shit.  Champions not losing a turn under Stun/sleep , when attacking enemies the debuffs magically disappear, Tormin hitting randomly, Champions counterattacking BEFORE they are attacked and then hitting AGAIN because their turn meter didn't empty.


The little shit compensation of a few bags of energy or arena tokens doesn't come close to how many people missed the next tier of prizes because of the broken Arena.  I must say , I didn't think Plarium was that fcking bad that they could screw up the system - but they proved us all wrong - they fcked the Arena awesomely,.
Sep 18, 2020, 17:5309/18/20
02/13/20
5
I'm just guessing that the Arena is again put on the back burner so you can get more pay to win players to buy your packs. Even a good team can't break into silver because you still have so many higher-level players every time. This is ridiculous and needs to be fixed before you start giving out more content to those that spend thousands on your game it's sad that you treat the ftp gamers like they do not matter even tho they do buy packs among other things like the battle pass if you ever get around to bringing that back. 
Sep 21, 2020, 23:2309/21/20
04/14/20
1357

WhyPlay said:


My biggest issue with classic  Arena is that it's FCKING broken to all shit.  Champions not losing a turn under Stun/sleep , when attacking enemies the debuffs magically disappear, Tormin hitting randomly, Champions counterattacking BEFORE they are attacked and then hitting AGAIN because their turn meter didn't empty.


The little shit compensation of a few bags of energy or arena tokens doesn't come close to how many people missed the next tier of prizes because of the broken Arena.  I must say , I didn't think Plarium was that fcking bad that they could screw up the system - but they proved us all wrong - they fcked the Arena awesomely,.

Many of your issues could have to do with passives and masteries. Debuffs disappearing, for instance, is because of the Resurgent mastery on the defense tree. Champions randomly counterattacking would be due to Retribution, or Deterrence if they counterattack when you weren't even targeting them but were debuffing another champion. And I also just encountered a Tormin who was AOEing every two seconds whether it was his turn or not, but then I looked it up, his A1 does say that it automatically activates whenever HP burn applies on any champion affected by both HP burn and freeze. So that's not a bug, I learned my lesson that Tormin plus an AOE HP burn champion is even more overpowered than Tormin alone. 

Sep 22, 2020, 10:3509/22/20
04/29/20
47
After all updates....still...there are cap....still...people are just trowed together and no one can proceed missions....wtf
Sep 24, 2020, 03:5409/24/20
11/01/19
2

I will tell you this, I will not spend money to get another fusion after the nerf of Rotos.

This was a complete steal of my money. 

You put out garbage fusions and then one good one just to nerf him into the ground.

Again you have proven that only people willing to spend on speed artifacts are worth your time.

Sep 24, 2020, 15:5709/24/20
Sep 24, 2020, 16:03(edited)
04/29/20
47
Day 158...still cant get silver....not even touch it ...still mission stuck..full of yellow monsters, who kill me even before touch the screen....i decide to make my defence team weaker, so i can at least make some point for great hall...when day 180 come, i will try again and WILL delete this broken thing from my phone if this not change...and pls, no need to tell me there are different people whit different luck...it is just the that you capped higher ranks, so we all are in locked door who became full...and no one can proceed before someone higher just leave or lose interested.....im on this misson from months...it is broken...and you dont want to fix it still, ignoring all complaining of too many people....
Sep 25, 2020, 05:5409/25/20
03/21/20
8
Dear Plarium,i will no more buy anything till you not fix the arena issue,with power balance,i have lvl 59 whit a great power and good champs and i cannot stay in silver arena because of the to higher teams that i am aginst,sorry for the bad english.
Sep 28, 2020, 06:0509/28/20
05/31/19
3
Kids, stop crying please!! This game is long long run, not sprint... I get in g4 arena after 9 months of playing and it wasnt for free... You must do something to get there... Farm speed set gear from dragon (yes its hard and frustrating but most of ppl in g4 goes this way). Beat clan boss every day and improve your team for better chests - u get here lots of shard which gives u better chance to get better champs. U get cruel sets for arenas... Yes it long run, but this isnt modern tipe of game which u end in few days. I get comfortable in g4 after 1 year of playing, thsn stop cry and farm your gear and champs.  The only one think which would change are funny pointess week rewarfs. U fight one week in arena to get 8 piece of s***t 4star gear which u sell inmediatly bcs u must have better gear to get and keep yourself in g4... For now I play  only 6 arenas only for daily quest and for clan activity... There is no point for me, and for 99% other players to play more arenas and to try get better position. May be if plarium do ruster like in turnament for all tier in arenas with proper rewards.... 
Sep 29, 2020, 11:2209/29/20
09/27/20
6
Thank uCrazycajun said:

My biggest issue with the current arena system is the broken and abused ranking system..... getting real tired of searching teams to come across one i SHOULD win by all rights just goin off the ranking and pwr lvl alone....only to get 1 shotted by a team consisting of a 40 40 50 6*60 because they gimped the ranking system with the 2 geared/booked/mastered lvl 40's because the system is flawed and based off the lvls/stat and not gear.   


therefore they get placed against less geared players because the ranking system matched them.  


fix the ranking by all means please. it just so sad to see the amount of abuse.


Nov 30, 2020, 03:4111/30/20
Nov 30, 2020, 03:42(edited)
10/24/20
2

So like most of the replies for customer non-support, this is an extremely lame excuse... more people play so now silver tier matches me at 141 to only teams with 3-4 legendaries (of which I have none) on every page I refresh to. So it seems I'm the ONLY ONE that doesn't have MULTIPLE legendaries... hell, I'm luck that I've managed to get 2 good Epics so far playing 15 hours a day for over a month. 

Sorry, I'll never understand making a game "free" if the only winners are those that buy their way to the top. Which is why this account is NowDeleted. 

Nov 30, 2020, 03:5011/30/20
10/26/20
1
NowDeleted

So like most of the replies for customer non-support, this is an extremely lame excuse... more people play so now silver tier matches me at 141 to only teams with 3-4 legendaries (of which I have none) on every page I refresh to. So it seems I'm the ONLY ONE that doesn't have MULTIPLE legendaries... hell, I'm luck that I've managed to get 2 good Epics so far playing 15 hours a day for over a month. 

Sorry, I'll never understand making a game "free" if the only winners are those that buy their way to the top. Which is why this account is NowDeleted. 

I  couldn't agree more... I've been playing 32 days now (all day every day because of covid) and I've gotten 3 sacred from mission/quest and managed during these "Boost" summons events to absolute crap epics (according to Hell Hades, Ash, Chosen videos), forget actually getting a Legendary. And yet I managed the first 3 weeks to get to gold 4... and then nothing but pages of Legendaries until I've been dropped back to silver IV... BUT the pages are still just legendaries and I can't even get through the daily advanced quest because of it. 

Add insult to injury I leveled an Armiger to 6* and have only managed to get 2 of him (he's UNCOMMON for god sakes) afte opening about 60K shards (again during these supposed "boost" which apparently do absolutely nothing for the mystery shards). 

I've wasted a month playing 24/7 on this game, and I'm pretty sure it's a bust 

Jan 15, 2021, 13:1301/15/21
10/20/20
5

All players look the ratio for have estimation...  possible to win or not.    But this ratio is never or neer a good reference...    That is the first big mistake for the arene.  The second put a lock on missions after one  arene... let missions open.... OR   put out all mission arene... Like that no one is block because arene impossible to make.