Captains, the reward system on Prizes has been updated!

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NIKITA METEOR
Administrator
23 June, 2016, 9:40 AM UTC

Captains, the reward system on Prizes has been updated. Let us take a closer look at the essentials to crack that nut once and for all.


IMPORTANT: The following applies only to new Prizes, i.e. the ones you have not engaged yet.


1. Why did we decide to update the system?

We have always received a lot of complains that Prizes “don’t work” or “work badly” or that “the rewards have changed”. Some players feel that the way rewards are issued is unfair when they see other players’ screenshots of big rewards. One of the major problems is that some sailors can lose their entire armies before they get a decent reward. This is especially true for new players that do not have enough expertise with Prizes or more experienced players that engage higher level Prizes where the intervals between good rewards are significantly longer compared to that on lower level ones. We have made a decision to adjust the reward algorithm so nobody finds themselves in such stressful situations.


2. What will happen to my current progress?

Nothing. Again, your current progress will not be affected in any way. None of your efforts were futile.


3. Why do I get smaller rewards when suffering big losses?

From now on, you will be receiving a reward each and every time you win. It is time to say “Goodbye” to Prizes not yielding any rewards! Brethren Court Engineers are convinced that every victory must be rewarded! Smaller rewards do NOT mean that your Units were lost for nothing: any victory may reveal that there was a huge army held captive at the Prize you have just conquered!

While under the old system you would be left empty-handed, now you will receive a guaranteed smaller reward (we mean Units!). Additionally, if you win on 10 Prizes, the cumulative reward will be slightly bigger than before.

Please note that you may not receive a reward at low-level Prizes.

4. How will smaller, more frequent rewards affect the regular reward algorithm?

You will need to win at slightly more Prizes, Captains!


5. Will there still be big rewards? Really big rewards?

Absolutely! Every victory at a Prize is a chance to win a huge reward! The chance of getting it is now slightly lower, but the overall number of rewards remained the same. In other words, you will be receiving the same reward, but it will be split into more parts than before.


We would like to assure our players that we are being very cautious with this update. Our main goal is to not tamper with the existing balance in any way but to make the reward system even more convenient for our players.


It is important to bear in mind that every player is at their own individual stage on the way to getting the reward, and the benefits of the new system may not be apparent right away. It might take you some time to evaluate the new system and to figure out how it works. The algorithm is new, and adjusting your strategy to it will require certain effort. One thing we know for sure: it will be worth your while!


Community manager
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Mule
23 June, 2016, 12:38 PM UTC
Just now that I started to figure out how they worked?  Prizes were not obligatory. People that don't like them better don't play at them. They were a good source of emotion. It has no sense to give small prizes meanwhile. :(
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wombat
23 June, 2016, 1:00 PM UTC

This change is another rip-off.  I just threw away heaps on a level 56 Black Corsair and my "prize" a lousey 56 ship of the line and 11 subs. I'm better off going back to Fallout 4 and Black Ops.  That only costs me the price of the game.


avast ye swabs
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
23 June, 2016, 2:42 PM UTC

Guys,

I understand your emotions, however, let's take a closer look at the situation:

1) If you have ever touched a Prize (even with one Unit), it won't be affected by the change.

2) You will still get big payouts which you were used to get before.

3) In addition to big payouts you will receive small mini-payouts after raiding each Prize.

4) Small payouts will help you to keep a certain number of Units in your army even if the big payout is far away.

If you have any questions, please ask.
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KingBlacksledge
23 June, 2016, 3:01 PM UTC

Sounds like a positive to me, personally., I know there are some who have gone through the prizes, none stop. I didn't, In fact I actually have a level 1 prize still available to me, and I'm a level 73 player. I was after the Adventures, more then the prizes, so I did only one of most levels, lower down. then as troop loss count mounted, I would need to build troops up agqain to take the next prize. Being impatient at times, I might hit a 2nd. prize of a same level, or go back and hit a few more of the lower ones. I agree with the concensus that hitting a prize with massive losses and getting no rewards for losing so many troops, leaves a a bad feeling about the game.



Edit add-on: I might mention that this change may have had a detrimental effect on my troop building. I had a fairly good amount of troops in training and now i have none, to send to the harbor! Did you change it so they go directly to the harbor now, and not to the haven? and there are none in training.  and I see no credit for the quests, units built! in th equest window.


Found my troops. I also tried hitting a few prizes and it's going exactly the way they said it would. the first one got me some very nice troops (it was in the lower 40's for it's level. I did another sea fort this time (the first was a corsair) and also received troops but, od course, nor so many. from both offense and defense though. then did a level 50 something and got fewer troops then i lost but still a fairly acceptable number, comparatively speaking! I like it so far!
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lilolotte
23 June, 2016, 3:34 PM UTC

this is a big big ripoff the way i see it

i made 40 missions today wasted finually 1200 linienships and lost nearly 4 millions of offensive without get one bigger payout

if i have to put in 1490 linienships to gain 40 fregattes something is wrong and after 40 missions i could have expected one big payout but no

before you got back more or less what you sended in if done right now it seems to me that you have to sacrify youre fleet to get points  from the lighthouse. i play  this game now for nearly 1 and a half year and i really liked it and it was hard to finually figure out how to work the lighthouse but  today im quiet close to quit cause  i have nearly no more armada left for the korsair targets so where have my every thenth price might be a winner have been?40 prices no big payout  is there any system at all left which has a look what the player put in at first?it really feels like a ripoff and if i dont get better decriptions or informations i can use im out

an upset lilolottchen

tumbs down plarium
lilolottchen
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Mule
23 June, 2016, 4:44 PM UTC

I still don't see the utility of the small amounts of units in exchange of more delayed big payouts.


Two days ago I sank all my troops on the Prizes. It was MY fault. I tightened so much the string. So I had 2 options: Wait to rebuild my troops or pay for some of them and hit again the prizes with the hope they give me back a considerable part of my troops and keep playing. I chose the second option and get a big payout back.


I paid a big amount of money to be back on the game and now you change the rules? Now that I have figured out how to approach the Prizes? I have now to learn how it works again? I think it is not fair. I'm disappointed.


I have now the amount of troops that had allowed me to play Prizes carefully getting back all what I have inside the Prizes' bank slowly. It is now that amount  enough or I will sink everything again?


We are playing Money, it is not fair you change the rules.

I'm very disappointed.



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Mule
23 June, 2016, 4:47 PM UTC
This is not fair.
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FaZi
23 June, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

That is a very nice update in the prizes.


I was stuck with my 15-20 Million bank value for about a month and than i got the payout which took my bank into negative value and i had to build lot of troops (with lots of wait) and feed my bank to regain bank value.


I lost my offense, my defense and dropped down to 200 units though i am level 76. 


But this system will help to avoid that 200 unit thing. I hit 20 prizes since the release and i got units in every prize. Used them to kill the next.


Started the day with 11M bank value and now it is well over 13M with +600 units in my troop count.




Th' rougher th' seven seas, th' smoother we sail. Ahoy! ahead ye coward
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Debouillon
23 June, 2016, 7:16 PM UTC
I had a level 87 who has been playing the game  since 2014 quit because he is not happy with the new prize system. He really loved playing the prizes, but says he has had enough. I have also had another BH contact me about holding a boycott of in game purchases to protest the new changes to the prizes. So I venture to say the early reviews of the new system have not been positive.
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C.Hawke
23 June, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC

I do not read the Forum very often…. And again I am reminded why that is... and will continue.


I may spend some money to buy some rubies, because I can’t wait to try this routine. And to reward Plarium (and thank) Plarium.

C
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Cigneous
23 June, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC

I have been off prizes to build for higher level needs
i am going to work from bottom to top..

if the system works I should be able to finish them all..
I had planned on Prizing again with the next prize ransack tournament..

that is today..  the way I play prizes.. nothing should change..  

if you understand prizes and they have not changed the final payout then it may take several days to get to that big payoff we were used to getting 3 times a day.

either you have enough troops to turn them all over or you don't.

if you don't, get to work and build more troops for free..

. I have seen some famous Prize Players quit cause they never learned the game from ground up.. all someone has to do is build and keep going

No amount of money spent makes you understand game better..  if you do not have patience you are doomed..

And prizes should never be the only reason you play.


Update  0:44 UTC now

OK.....   ran some prizes..I did 2, 8, 9, 10, 14, 14, 15, 17, 18,  48, 49, 50, 52, paid little bits and 55 paid me a lot more than I lost.

So this seems to work so far.. i do not know if it is equitable yet... so i found a payout point about where i should have anyway..

I can't say it does not work.. - I'll keep goin' and we will see what happens. I was wrong about days till a big payout..

I agree with the guy below so many do not understand prizes.. but i was doing all the prizes before from 1 on up.. funny thing is you it real hard to do prizes wrong the way it is set up.. either you have enough troops or you don't..


hey i thought prizes maxed out at 115 now? is that guy below me saying he is at level 130 prize??  

Cigneous
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BlackBart
23 June, 2016, 9:16 PM UTC

this system is awfull, why do i want to smash my boats in exchange for tiny little ammounts.... with little ammounts comes the need to do smaller and smaller prize levels with smaller and smaller payouts.. and when finishing already yellow barred levels, it does NOT always give a prtize payout.

now I am up to lev 130 so I know what I am on about... why do you guys (game makers) always have to fix something that is not broken... please put it back like it was... the people that moan about it are the ones that have not read/asked how to do them properly or what kind of units to use ect..

now it seems that those like me that have bothered to read and learn how to do the prizes are now being penalised by those who have not and are still like the man above about to start on a lev 1 prize when his gaming level is in the 70'S !!!!!

it is a ridiculous concept.... PLEASE PUT IT BACK.


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DimGrepo
23 June, 2016, 9:41 PM UTC

as a  smaller player (level 53) the prize changes suck.


In the space of one day pretty much ive lost the bulk of my navy. Lose 100 subs, you get 100 bombadiers in return, lose 100 man o war, you get 8 skirmishers :D


For those who relied on the prizes for fleet and armada its a lousy change. 
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BlackBart
23 June, 2016, 9:56 PM UTC

now one of my brotherhood has quit over it and he is a level 87 player.. he has left our BH and stopped for good, this is rediculous.... i am level 86 player and close to packing it in myself over this DEBACLE.... you are forcing the hand of my good mates who have been playing together with me for years. into making game ending decisions..


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Blasphemy
Moderator
23 June, 2016, 10:30 PM UTC

NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED GUYS

Your banking is still there,

just it won't calculate your old bank with the new hits on prizes but it's still there as before

any new prizes you have attack after the recent update will show the newest %

it just couldn't had the old, please don't get discourage over this update, give it a chance,

I understand your emotions, however, let's take a closer look at the situation:

FROM THE CM recently 


1) If you have ever touched a Prize (even with one Unit), it won't be affected by the change.

2) You will still get big payouts which you were used to get before.

3) In addition to big payouts you will receive small mini-payouts after raiding each Prize.

4) Small payouts will help you to keep a certain number of Units in your army even if the big payout is far away.

If you have any questions, please ask.


 


I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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BlackBart
23 June, 2016, 10:37 PM UTC
WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.
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Blasphemy
Moderator
23 June, 2016, 10:43 PM UTC

BlackBart said:


WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....


Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............
I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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BlackBart
23 June, 2016, 10:53 PM UTC
wow.. how can you say that someone who has attained level 87 'isn't that into the game' and how can you say that its silly thing to quit over !!!! they lost 8000 frfgates to end up with 400 juggs... no wonder NOBODY wants this change... and how condesending of you
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Blasphemy
Moderator
24 June, 2016, 12:21 AM UTC

BlackBart said:


wow.. how can you say that someone who has attained level 87 'isn't that into the game' and how can you say that its silly thing to quit over !!!! they lost 8000 frfgates to end up with 400 juggs... no wonder NOBODY wants this change... and how condesending of you

I understand your frustration, and i do understand this game can get very annoying really fast when updates are added

But this update wasn't changed in how we banked, the banking is all the same, and if your friend did not get paid what they where suppose to

then it's still calculated in the banking you will still get paid eventually as you did before, i believe this was added for the smaller players, so they always got something, many of the smallers ones don't play the banking system like the old sea pirates, so this was added to help them,


I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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