What limit for the Massed Attack is enough for ye? Vote!

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Anne Bonnie
10 February, 2016, 10:54 AM UTC

We need your opinion!


Presidios have been the sites of some of the greatest battles in the Seven Seas! Just think about it: this is where your Offensive forces meet your enemy’s equally strong army and there is enough room for only one winner!

But what limit for the Massed Attack is enough for you to be able to silence your opponents?


- 300k

-500k

- over 500k


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FaZi
10 February, 2016, 12:14 PM UTC

Over 500K


300K or uptill 500K is nothing for presido of an Alliance, & by Alliance i mean really an alliance not a bunch of people dragging themselves from here to there & from there to here.


Th' rougher th' seven seas, th' smoother we sail. Ahoy! ahead ye coward
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Icy
Moderator
11 February, 2016, 12:34 AM UTC
Gotta agree 500k is nothing. With some single waves over 10 or 20 million or to be lesser 1 million then a limit of 500k would be useless. Everyone can just attack on their own not bothering with a massed
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Anne Bonnie
11 February, 2016, 10:15 AM UTC

Ahoy Captains! Currently the limit is 300,000 (Solo and Massed Attack on Presidios) Let me explain, what I mean. It means that 3 Captains from the same Brotherhood can send an army, with the maximum Rum consumption of 300,000 per hour. Keep in mind that only basic Rum consumption is taken into account. 

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FaZi
11 February, 2016, 3:52 PM UTC

Well this thing was completely absent from above post.


I didn't knew this limit but i think if pearls, boosts are not applied for less rum consumption this can be met. 


So i will go for 500K
Th' rougher th' seven seas, th' smoother we sail. Ahoy! ahead ye coward
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Blasphemy
Moderator
11 February, 2016, 7:16 PM UTC

is there going to be an update on the presid Anne Bonnie??

im confused to your question reason i didn't answer 
I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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Anne Bonnie
12 February, 2016, 8:55 AM UTC

Ahoy Capt. BLASPHEMY ! Our developers gave me a special task to ask ye what  limit for the Massed Attack is enough for ye, me brave Captains. 

It doesn't mean that as soon as we get a feedback, our engineers will immediately change the existing limits. And among other things, they will make a thorough analysis of our server data to take a final decision. I will keep ye updated, Captains! 



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Blasphemy
Moderator
12 February, 2016, 3:36 PM UTC

okay mi'lady 


I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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Icy
Moderator
14 February, 2016, 10:59 AM UTC
I'd say leave it as is then. Though that question was misleading on what it was thought to be. I believed it to be attack power, nothing even close to what you meant
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Anne Bonnie
15 February, 2016, 3:58 PM UTC

Captain Icy! We will certainly take note of the comments ye have made. I will make a post about limits very soon so that other players know how the limits work. Arrrggghhh! 

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Blasphemy
Moderator
15 February, 2016, 6:11 PM UTC

Oh Anne Bonnie me pirate Queen has davey jones leaked out if we are ever going to get a new building like those in stormfall called the Fortress?

borden has gotten the best of me in Plarium server, please adjust and give us some new fun...lol
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Anne Bonnie
16 February, 2016, 5:09 PM UTC

Capt. BLASPHEMY , be patient. Everything is good in its season.  


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Blasphemy
Moderator
16 February, 2016, 5:35 PM UTC

My season has iced over, shiver my timbers my boxers even froze lol 

     patient???? what pirate has ever mastered this eh? lol
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Alice0815
16 February, 2016, 9:47 PM UTC

well, i think that depends on with how much force you want to attack. 300k for 3 players is 100k for each. if i dont have calculated it wrong thats a minimum total building time of about  156 days (without building time upgrade for pearls) or 137 days (with maximum building time upgrade for pearls) for 100k rum consumption, if you only build the offensive units with the lowest building time. 

that units would make a total of 7.4kk offensive force (without discovery bonus) or 10.4kk offensive force (with maximum discovery bonus) for 1 player.  otherwise, if you only take the weakest units (marauders) you will have 4kk to 5.6kk off per player, or if you take only the strongest units (juggernauts) you will have 42kk to 58.8kk off per player. and of course thats not even close to the limit, because you can still pardon your units, add some dread fleet, off enhancer and potions. 

if you really want to hit it hard, you could use i.e. 1,162 plague ships with 23,257 pardoned, max discovered juggernauts, which would give you 85.3kk off for your 100k rum consumption, and thats still without potion and off enhancer. so, i think thats more than enough to do heavy damage. 

besides, its not quite easy to reach 100k rum consumption if you are always low on rum because the maximum production is 24k (from distilleries) +25% windmill +25% ruby boost = 36k and the maximum decrease rate is 10% pearls + 2*5% davy jones locker + 50% ruby boost = 70%. so you can supply a consumption of 36k/0.3=120k. but an average player may dont use the very expensive ruby boosts and dont always have rum items, so its more likely 24k*1.25/0.9=33.333k. so you already have rum problems at 1/3 of your 100k you can use for a massed attack.  

compared to other plarium games, like soldiers or sparta, where are buldings which decrease consumption up to 85% (if i remember correctly), the 25% increased production through the windmill is nearly nothing. 

to make it understandable for everyone. just with buildings and pearls (because thats what everyone easily gets) ... here in pirates you can supply

4000[base production distillery]*6[distilleries]*1.25[windmill]/(1-0.1[pearls])=24,000*1.389=33,333 base consumption with lvl 20 distilleries. 

in soldiers i.e. you can supply

500[base production]*6[production buildings]*1/(1-0.85[reduction building]-0.08[pearls equivalent])=3,000*14.287=42,857 base consumption with lvl 20 production building.

so you see, you can have 42,857/33,333=1.286 times more units before you are loosing consumables, and when you are loosing consumables you still can provide 14.287/1.389=10.286 times more units with them. so you dont run out of consumables that fast.

i question myself what good a high limit is if you are having big problems to reach it.
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