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Feb 15, 2018, 20:4102/15/18
01/16/16
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Battling the Bickering

Hello all...


It is becoming increasingly clear that the presence of bullies on this game are working [almost effortlessly] to try and ruin this game for every player regardless of size or level for that matter.

First, there is what I call a concerted effort to make sure that smaller BHs NEVER are allowed to raise the level of their Bastion.  Why game managers permit this is quite beyond me.  What is needed, is level controls.  As a BH [regardless of size] raises it's BH to say, 10 from level 5, once at 10 it should be allow it lock in place.  The same process for level 15, allow it to lock in to 15.  No BH should be allowed to completely take down any BH [or keep them down as some cases be] from the level that they achieved.

Now, don't tell me Plarium, that you don't know who these bullies are?  Look at the behavior of the Pirate Horde [as example] and it stands out clearly.  How about the Hell Cats, or EURU, or RuAL ... just to toss out some-examples.  
 

In the real world of the 17th - 18th century the pirates banded together to fight the Spanish.  Not each other...


Captain James T. Kirk, Enterprise 1701-A, All The Kings Men BH

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Feb 15, 2018, 22:2502/15/18
Feb 15, 2018, 22:41(edited)
11/20/16
16

Quote:  It is becoming increasingly clear that the presence of bullies on this game are working [almost effortlessly] to try and ruin this game for every player regardless of size or level for that matter.


Not to me it is not.





Quote:  First, there is what I call a concerted effort to make sure that smaller BHs NEVER are allowed to raise the level of their Bastion. Why game managers permit this is quite beyond me. Because it makes money. What is needed, is level controls. As a BH [regardless of size] raises it's BH to say, 10 from level 5, once at 10 it should be allow it lock in place. The same process for level 15, allow it to lock in to 15. No BH should be allowed to completely take down any BH [or keep them down as some cases be] from the level that they achieved.



Wrong, what is needed is your Brotherhood to learn how to fight and stop wasting one man on spam attacks to other Brotherhoods







Quote:  Now, don't tell me Plarium, that you don't know who these bullies are? Look at the behavior of the Pirate Horde [as example] and it stands out clearly. How about the Hell Cats, or EURU, or RuAL ... just to toss out some-examples.


I do not know about any of them Brotherhoods none of them have attacked My Brotherhood.

You are saying any one that upsets your little routeen is a " Bullie " because it disrupts you in a pirate game on line, and what you want to do, with a level 5 Bastion and 132 crew, you do not seem to want to do a lot by My veiwing.

Except spam and annoy other Brotherhoods.






Quote:  In the real world of the 17th - 18th century the pirates banded together to fight the Spanish. Not each other...


Very Poor Advert for the Alliance of Peace, as you seem to be one of the main spammers in the game, I suggest you stop wasting the community’s time on this nonsense, and start learning how to build, and fight correctly, and stop trying to make troubble with people who disagree with you.









CrowbarModerator
Feb 15, 2018, 23:2502/15/18
03/07/16
2334

As a fellow player, I read the first post as "Boo-hoo-hoo... they are stronger/better/... than us, so Plarium needs to do our fighting for us!".

Feb 16, 2018, 02:0502/16/18
Feb 16, 2018, 02:05(edited)
07/06/17
16

Crowbar said:


As a fellow player, I read the first post as "Boo-hoo-hoo... they are stronger/better/... than us, so Plarium needs to do our fighting for us!".


Amazonia sounds like the type of Gal you want as the nominated driver, when you go line dancing in a border town HaHaHaHa

You Tell him Sister

Feb 16, 2018, 20:1202/16/18
02/29/16
2647

Hello, Captain! 

The thing is that it's a war game after all. We don't want to reduce the war opportunities of Brotherhoods as the game may become less active. We'll see fewer PVP battles and less fun. So that's why we're not planning to implement any new "locked" levels in the near future.
Feb 16, 2018, 23:5002/16/18
01/16/16
4

I really do understand... however, how can game become that altered by allowing the locking of the Bastions on increments of 5.  If you look at the current levels this will permit a more equal distribution of Bastion levels thus giving more confidence to those who bastions are either at a fixed 5 or less for that matter. 


Allowing for that ability to lock the Bastions at 10 and 15, can't possibly take away more battles/pvps only prevent less power to the coiners and cheaters.


Kirk
CrowbarModerator
Feb 17, 2018, 00:3102/17/18
03/07/16
2334

camera12 said:

Allowing for that ability to lock the Bastions at 10 and 15, can't possibly take away more battles/pvps only prevent less power to the coiners and cheaters.

I disagree.

Quick hits on Presidios/Bastions to get the requirements for some of the levels + a ton of rubies = getting your Bastion from level 5 to 10 or 10 to 15 in no time. If those levels were protected, you'd never have to use a single unit to defend it.

Further, with such high "protected" levels, it would be dumb to go for any other level (gain of up to 4 levels for the price of countless def units needed to defend it), rendering all Bastion hits completely uninteresting, also making it virtually impossible to go for those levels that require Bastion downgrades.

If anything, coiners would benefit greatly from this, while "poorer" BHs, that would have to do it slowly, would keep getting blasted until they realised that it's better to just keep at their current "protected" level.

Feb 17, 2018, 02:2002/17/18
01/16/16
4

Okay, but I fail to understand the reason for the Presidios... what are they there for anyway?  With the Bastions at a maximum of 5 and with little hope for reaching 20 without [money, money, money] the Presidios are just so much show...


Kirk
CrowbarModerator
Feb 17, 2018, 02:4702/17/18
03/07/16
2334

Years ago, on the now deleted Kabam forum, I wrote a long post on how useless Presidios are, with a list of suggestions to make them more interesting. Nothing ever happened and they are equally useless today as they were then.

IMO, Presidios are a vanity show. They show some area as "yours", so you get to feel mighty when that area is big. Not unlike obsession that many men have with the size of something else. ;-)

Given that there is nothing really worth fighting (Fireships, charts, and whirlpools - IMO - made haven hits completely uninteresting, treasure islands are wastes of units, targets only give useless relics,...), Presidios are also a nice taunt to get hit where your power is concentrated, for those who want to fight. Those who don't want that can easily play Farmville by simply spending down and turtling (or upgrading their harbours with etchings), without really losing anything important in the game.

One possible advantage of Presidios is that they put your BH higher in the list of BHs, making it more likely for you to get more and better new members.

Feb 17, 2018, 02:5902/17/18
04/06/17
162
camera12 said:

Hello all...


It is becoming increasingly clear that the presence of bullies on this game are working [almost effortlessly] to try and ruin this game for every player regardless of size or level for that matter.

First, there is what I call a concerted effort to make sure that smaller BHs NEVER are allowed to raise the level of their Bastion.  Why game managers permit this is quite beyond me.  What is needed, is level controls.  As a BH [regardless of size] raises it's BH to say, 10 from level 5, once at 10 it should be allow it lock in place.  The same process for level 15, allow it to lock in to 15.  No BH should be allowed to completely take down any BH [or keep them down as some cases be] from the level that they achieved.

Now, don't tell me Plarium, that you don't know who these bullies are?  Look at the behavior of the Pirate Horde [as example] and it stands out clearly.  How about the Hell Cats, or EURU, or RuAL ... just to toss out some-examples.  
 

In the real world of the 17th - 18th century the pirates banded together to fight the Spanish.  Not each other...


Captain James T. Kirk, Enterprise 1701-A, All The Kings Men BH


Feb 17, 2018, 12:3402/17/18
07/28/16
116

camera12 said:


Hello all...

 

In the real world of the 17th - 18th century the pirates banded together to fight the Spanish.  Not each other...


Captain James T. Kirk, Enterprise 1701-A, All The Kings Men BH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht4D74Puqi4

Feb 18, 2018, 04:4702/18/18
Feb 18, 2018, 04:54(edited)
1

Well you could always do as the others have done. 20 BHs have gone past the forbidden level 14. 

HC - rual

EURU - rual

Rual - rual

Sorciverdi - rual

Pilgrim Slayers - deal?

Children of the Sea - deal(protected by rual)

Hanse - deal?

Navy Seal Fleet - deal?

Dragon Fire - deal?

Pirates United - deal?

Fluch der 7 - deal?

Pirates Paradise - deal? probably

Piraterie Francaise - deal? probably

Filibusta - deal? 

Leyendas Piratas - deal?

vaincre ou mourir - deal? probable

Death Squadron - deal? 

The Pirate Horde - deal? good chance

INSELRATTEN - deal? maybe

Stortebeckers Erben - deal?


5 of you are controlled by our glorious ruler shiv. What about the rest, what did you have to agree to do to keep your level 15+ bastion with or without presidios?

Feb 18, 2018, 11:0902/18/18
07/28/16
116

twinkle said:


Well you could always do as the others have done. 20 BHs have gone past the forbidden level 14. 

The Pirate Horde - deal? good chance


5 of you are controlled by our glorious ruler shiv. What about the rest, what did you have to agree to do to keep your level 15+ bastion with or without presidios?

twinkle, The Pirate Horde does NOT do Deals with Any One, and that is Official.


Raventor

Feb 18, 2018, 17:1002/18/18
11/06/14
579

Think upper management played you on that one Raventor. 


Now this ones funny, I think Monday's pvp answers where DS is. 
Feb 18, 2018, 18:4002/18/18
04/06/17
162

twinkle said:


Well you could always do as the others have done. 20 BHs have gone past the forbidden level 14. 

HC - rual

EURU - rual

Rual - rual

Sorciverdi - rual

Pilgrim Slayers - deal?

Children of the Sea - deal(protected by rual)

Hanse - deal?

Navy Seal Fleet - deal?

Dragon Fire - deal?

Pirates United - deal?

Fluch der 7 - deal?

Pirates Paradise - deal? probably

Piraterie Francaise - deal? probably

Filibusta - deal? 

Leyendas Piratas - deal?

vaincre ou mourir - deal? probable

Death Squadron - deal? 

The Pirate Horde - deal? good chance

INSELRATTEN - deal? maybe

Stortebeckers Erben - deal?


5 of you are controlled by our glorious ruler shiv. What about the rest, what did you have to agree to do to keep your level 15+ bastion with or without presidios?

if nothing more some of us have our names , and who are you ?

obviously another ''no one''  who hide behind just created alt to be able to talk and ask stupid questions


who want a piece of EURU/Rual/Hell Cats/Sorci family knows where to find us

SO BRING IT ON  !
Feb 18, 2018, 19:5202/18/18
Feb 18, 2018, 19:52(edited)
07/03/16
5

I agree...it got to the point where I could no longer resist. I used to be part of the #1 brotherhood of all time-Dragons Fire. But after seeing these offers appear regularly, I gave in. I took the deal. And we all know what happened to Dragons Fire after I left...right?


I encourage EVERYONE to take the deal!



Feb 18, 2018, 20:2902/18/18
08/11/15
5

REVISED "DEALS AMONG BHs" LIST...


HC - married to rual

EURU - married to HC

Rual - waiting for mail-order bride to come from .... ?

Sorciverdi - having a long-term affair with all the above

Pilgrim Slayers - seeking love on match.com

Children of the Sea - Official FB status: "it's complicated"

Hanse - lovescout24.de

Navy Seal Fleet - ourtime.com

Dragon Fire - Under restraining order, but still looking 

Pirates United - eHarmony.com 


Fluch der 7 - Just happy that all the kids have moved outa the house.

Pirates Paradise - Clearly, TINDER.com

Piraterie Francaise - No help needed.  the French always get dates ;-)

Filibusta - And so do the Italians!

Leyendas Piratas - Yes, them too.  Muy Caliente!

vaincre ou mourir - Just not that into relationships, thanks.

Death Squadron -  Trying to find a date on REDDIT (you don't wanna know which sub-reddit)

The Pirate Horde - Seeking hook-ups at the gym, naturally.

INSELRATTEN - Has the flowers and candy, still waiting for date to arrive.

Stortebeckers Erben - Gave up dating, now just plays online MMOGs.

Feb 18, 2018, 23:2802/18/18
11/06/14
579

LMAO. NICE TWIST. 


Feb 19, 2018, 07:3002/19/18
Feb 22, 2018, 20:11(edited)
12/19/15
3

i always love to read theses "heated arguments" here on forum. Debate is fine but people rarely change their opinion. I personally think that some BH leaders and their "puppets" use these forums/arguments as a way to validate their "political power" as well as a recruiting tool. Some captains even believe that complaining to the game developer themselves will some how get them involved to "level the playing field so to speak."

I have never seen people complain about a game so much in my life. I love passion in real life... however, complainers are weak people who cannot enact change on their own b/c they lack the discipline and fortitude to do it on their own... If you want to change the game board then you must adapt & evolve to succeed... crying like a 9 year old who dropped their ice cream on the concrete will not enact REAL CHANGE. You have to work for it. You have to be disciplined and focus and get the buy-in of your advisor's and strongest players... then you set a plan and WORK AT IT... just like in real life...

Frustration is an understandable part of this game. You win You lose You get out maneuvered. Your timing is Off. Your timing is on... We only learn from losing BUT winners write history...

The only truth that I know about this game is Empires Rise & Fall regularly in this game... So Set a Plan. Believe in it and Work at... and stop pointing fingers at everyone and anything else but YOURSELF. True change starts in your own Haven & Brotherhood.

Adapt

Evolve

Succeed

3 simple words... USE EM!

RB


Feb 19, 2018, 07:3402/19/18
Feb 19, 2018, 07:52(edited)
11/06/14
579
Interesting point of view. I wonder who'll run the next empire in PTOF


jwincm2012 said:


i always love to read theses "heated arguments" here on forum. Debate is fine but people rarely change their opinion. I personally think that some BH leaders and their "puppets" use these forums/arguments as a way to validate their "political power" as well as a recruiting tool. Some captains even believe that complaining to the game developer themselves will some how get them involved to "level the playing field so to speak." 


I have never seen people complain about a game so much in my life. I love passion in real life... however, complainers are weak people who cannot enact change on their own b/c they lack the discipline and fortitude to do it on their own... If you want to change the game board then you must adapt & evolve to succeed... crying like a 9 year old who dropped their ice cream on the concrete will not enact REAL CHANGE. You have to work for it. You have to be disciplined and focus and get the buy-in of your advisor's and strongest players... then you set a plan and WORK AT IT... just like in real life...

Frustration is an understandable part of this game. You win You lose You get out maneuvered. Your timing is Off. Your timing is on... We only learn from losing BUT winners write history... 


The only truth that I know about this game is Empires Rise & Fall regularly in this game... So Set a Plan. Believe in it and Work at... and stop pointing fingers at everyone and anything else but YOURSELF. True change starts in your own Haven & Brotherhood.


Adapt

Evolve

Succeed


3 simple words... USE EM!


RB



Feb 19, 2018, 11:5902/19/18
7
So Rual is the official ruler of this server?Is that auto-script for sale?Would like to use it in fb server,ptof & swoe.