plarium cheaters !!!

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lenoob55
10 July, 2017, 10:10 PM UTC

Check the screen shots below and explain me please how it s possible to lose so many of units against only 2000 subs... I have posted the screen shot of the simulator of plarium and the difference is enormous !!! Very important : the simulation has been done with the real level of my juggs and my ships of the line and with the lvl max (32) for the subs of the rival. I can suppose they are lvl 32 but it s not sure at all. Something else, i m using the power boost 50% and the power of my juggs is 3491 points of attack... The power maximum of the subs is near to 2000 points of def... So, how is it possible to lose 7 / 21  offensive  units sent against only 2000 subs with less than 5 millions points of def ??? something else : it was nt a raid against a haven but i liberation so it means that it was a battle UNITS against UNITS only... I can explain : Plarium are cheaters and thiefs, that s all... I have sent a report and the reply has been : everything is clear... Pathetic...




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Crowbar
Moderator
11 July, 2017, 6:37 AM UTC

Not every unfavourable outcome is "cheating"...

Taking your own numbers into account, your off is roughly 3500*6300 = 22M and the defender's def is 5M or a bit less. However, you failed to mention the defender's haven, which is heavily upgraded (maxed walls plus loads of improvements). I'd estimate his haven def bonus around 20k, i.e., +200%, so 7:21 doesn't seem at all unrealistic for Subs below level 32 (even below level 20).

Btw, his Bastion is 2 levels higher than yours. Not much of a difference, but certainly doesn't help your argument.

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Arya_Stark88
11 July, 2017, 2:30 PM UTC

@LENOOB55 - I don't think that when it's a liberation the battle is "units vs units" alone, the haven defense bonus of the haven you're liberating is also applied. So the result of the battle (you losing around 30% of your offense, whilst the other party losing around 73% of his defense) looks just about right. 


In general, Subs' potential max defense against armada is:

850 (basic defense vs armada) + bonuses from lvl 32 discovery + possible 1 or 2 keg mine relics (20% - 40%) + bastion knowledge + brotherhood achievement + potions + prestige (5%), + possible 50% off/def bonus purchased. And then, the haven defense bonus of the player liberated which in this particular case might be around 12k - 15k more or less based on the fortifications/walls we see there. These are bonuses that the battle calculator can't take into account.

Your 30% loss and 73% kill rate may not be the best or the ideal result you're expecting, but it's still not a bad win. 


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lenoob55
11 July, 2017, 3:04 PM UTC
Hi Arya Stark :) well, i understand what you mean but i m terribly sorry, you re wrong ;) well, just an example : recently, i have sent 8000 subs in a TI. About 14 millions def. The subs have been attacked by 13K juggs. I asked the lvl of the units and it was 3875 points for 1 jugg : total :about 50 millions points offensive. So 50 millions of against 14 millions def : only 23 subs have come back home !!! and the guy has lost "only" 890 juggs... In this case, i have sent more than 21 millions of units against less than 5 millions def units and as you can see, i have most much more than the defender and IT S IMPOSSIBLE !!! Included if he uses all the boost possible and that the subs are at level 32 !!! IMPOSSIBLE !!! :) the truth is that recently, i have bought 3 packages and i noticed that since, i lose some units than expected against the prizes, etc... Plarium thinks that i ll buy packages every day by cheating against me ??? ha ha ha :) they can dream at it because if they don t send back the units unfairly lost ( plus the bonus i should have won for the pvp event !!! ), they can forget my money... 
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lenoob55
11 July, 2017, 3:06 PM UTC
PS : i use the power boost and the relics too. For me, 1 jugg is about 3500 points offensive and the ratio was much better for my battle than when i have lost my subs in the TI ;)
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lenoob55
11 July, 2017, 3:10 PM UTC
last thing : it was nt a raid against his haven. It was a liberation of a blockage sent against another player. So i confirm : it was only units against units. My units against his units ;) nothing else... But as always, at the end, the player must pay to play again and again... ;) Plarium, i hope you ll read it : IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN ANY MORE IF YOU DON T SEND BACK THE UNITS UNFAIRLY LOST !!! Is it clear ??? ;) have fun ;)
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Arya_Stark88
11 July, 2017, 3:42 PM UTC

HI Merc :) In that other battle you mentioned, 50M offense vs 14M defense, and only 23 subs came home, that one doesn't seem to add up. In that TI battle, your loss was at 99.7% even though the offense was a little less than x4 of your defense. Would be interesting to see screenshot of that battle.. 

But as side note, in the TI battle, as far as I know force advantage applies, but in the liberation, I'm not certain force advantage applies. Also curious to know if the haven defense bonus of the haven you were liberating likewise benefited your offense, in the same way that it gave a bonus to the subs defending the haven. Maybe Anne Bonnie has the answers ;)

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lenoob55
11 July, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC
The TI are island you can block or liberate or take over : it s the same rules as when you go to liberate one of your friends under blockages : it s units against units only... If you send a FS against a player under blockage, it s the player who is blocking him who will take the damages so it means that the defense of the haven under blockage does nt take part of the action till it s under blockage ;) indeed ;) but we all use the simulator of plarium to calculate our big battles and trust me, it s really IMPOSSIBLE to lose so many units with a ratio of X 4.5 against the def... I should have lost maximum 460 juggs and only less than 100 subs should have survived to the liberation... It s a bug of the game, like always but like always, Plarium does nt consider the players and i ll have to send 100 tickets before they ll take 5 minuts to check the screen shots... 
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Nightmare
12 July, 2017, 2:26 AM UTC

lenoob55 said:


last thing : it was nt a raid against his haven. It was a liberation of a blockage sent against another player. So i confirm : it was only units against units. My units against his units ;) nothing else... But as always, at the end, the player must pay to play again and again... ;) Plarium, i hope you ll read it : IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN ANY MORE IF YOU DON T SEND BACK THE UNITS UNFAIRLY LOST !!! Is it clear ??? ;) have fun ;)

1. stop calling cheaters everyone who kick your *** !!!


2.stop moaning it wont help you much !!


3. learn to play , this topic is hilarious....same as your reports and that funny battle calculator which is 100% inaccurate 





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUqwaORfbU
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
12 July, 2017, 7:31 AM UTC
lenoob55 said:

Check the screen shots below and explain me please how it s possible to lose so many of units against only 2000 subs... I have posted the screen shot of the simulator of plarium and the difference is enormous !!! Very important : the simulation has been done with the real level of my juggs and my ships of the line and with the lvl max (32) for the subs of the rival. I can suppose they are lvl 32 but it s not sure at all. Something else, i m using the power boost 50% and the power of my juggs is 3491 points of attack... The power maximum of the subs is near to 2000 points of def... So, how is it possible to lose 7 / 21  offensive  units sent against only 2000 subs with less than 5 millions points of def ??? something else : it was nt a raid against a haven but i liberation so it means that it was a battle UNITS against UNITS only... I can explain : Plarium are cheaters and thiefs, that s all... I have sent a report and the reply has been : everything is clear... Pathetic...




Hi! I'd like to check this case in our game logs, but I can't find your ID by the coords. Could you please specify your current location & server? You can send it to Ann Bonnie in PM if you don't want to post it publicly (just let her know that she needs to pass this info to me).
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lenoob55
12 July, 2017, 8:18 AM UTC
Hello :) it s because i move my haven very often ;) my new coords are x:-145 y:-774... But i have already sent 3 tickets to plarium and i got answer : everything is clear, lol :) I have sent another one earlier and i suppose that PLarium France will send it to the Devs... I hope so... Recently, there has been a bug on the game and i had lost more than 8000 subs because of it... The first answer has been the same as now but at the end, the Devs have checked the problem and have understood that i was right... Once again, i m absolutly sure that i m right and i won t give up ;)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
12 July, 2017, 8:53 AM UTC
lenoob55 said:

Hello :) it s because i move my haven very often ;) my new coords are x:-145 y:-774... But i have already sent 3 tickets to plarium and i got answer : everything is clear, lol :) I have sent another one earlier and i suppose that PLarium France will send it to the Devs... I hope so... Recently, there has been a bug on the game and i had lost more than 8000 subs because of it... The first answer has been the same as now but at the end, the Devs have checked the problem and have understood that i was right... Once again, i m absolutly sure that i m right and i won t give up ;)
Found you now :) Can you also give me your ticket ID?
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lenoob55
12 July, 2017, 9:01 AM UTC
128127
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lenoob55
12 July, 2017, 9:03 AM UTC
and 130206 for the ticket sent earlier today..
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
12 July, 2017, 9:05 AM UTC
Thank you!
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
12 July, 2017, 9:18 AM UTC
As far as I can see, Support is currently investigating your issue. The reply you will receive will be based on the results of investigation.
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lenoob55
12 July, 2017, 10:25 AM UTC
ok thx a lot ;) and nice day ;)
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Attalar
17 July, 2017, 10:29 AM UTC

I had my differences with merc (as you can bet by watching the screens). 

But he has a point there...


I gave him the strength of my subs...maybe he can figure it out.


That score only makes sense when the haven defence-bonus is taken into account and strenghened my subs which makes no real sense but that would be my explaination...
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