Veteran and Brethren units vs regular units

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hd1313
18 February, 2017, 5:53 PM UTC
What's the difference between veteran/brethren units and their corresponding regular counterparts?  I read somewhere that they consume less rum but the descriptions for each are exactly the same.
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Crowbar
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18 February, 2017, 6:14 PM UTC

Brethren units are some 4-6% stronger and consume only half the rum that the other two consume.

Veterans and regulars are the same, except when building (veterans take far less resources, but also require rubies, and they have their separate building queues).

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hd1313
18 February, 2017, 6:17 PM UTC
Crowbar - thanks, I was just looking at veteran units.
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Azhaar Laghari
18 February, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

henrydefina said:


What's the difference between veteran/brethren units and their corresponding regular counterparts?  I read somewhere that they consume less rum but the descriptions for each are exactly the same.

With some units, there is a huge difference tween regular, vets, pardoned and brethrens.


Regulars and Vets are pretty much the same. Pardon a sub, as an example, and you use half the rum, get more D for it but no speed increase. With a Brethren, less rum use, higher D values and a lot faster.


I have super subs so I see a big difference while others will not see what I see in increases.
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Crowbar
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18 February, 2017, 6:31 PM UTC

henrydefina said:


Crowbar - thanks, but shouldn't their descriptions be changed to reflect that?

Click their icons and look at the stats:



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Crowbar
Moderator
18 February, 2017, 6:32 PM UTC

azhaarlaghari said:

With a Brethren, less rum use, higher D values and a lot faster.

Forgot about the speed of some of them. Thank you.

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Azhaar Laghari
18 February, 2017, 11:24 PM UTC

Crowbar said:


azhaarlaghari said:

With a Brethren, less rum use, higher D values and a lot faster.

Forgot about the speed of some of them. Thank you.

Now I have to test them to see if the stated stats are correct. Sigh


My Br sub is 7.3 mph faster than a regular sub. If speed was not relevant, why does Pl make us waste days and codexes on our bastion for more speed, Pearls at the witch doctors, booty at the house of Navigation, relics etc?
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Crowbar
Moderator
19 February, 2017, 10:37 AM UTC

Who said that the speed is not relevant. It is very much; I just forgot about that aspect in my answers.

Not all Brethren units are faster than their regular counterparts, though, as can be seen from my screenshots above. Cuirassiers and Guns, like Jugs, are not. Subs and Frigs are. Did I miss any?
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bernd
19 February, 2017, 3:06 PM UTC

also if you pardon the regular/veteran units they are in fact stronger than the brethren ones and have the same rum-consumption.

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Azhaar Laghari
20 February, 2017, 7:22 PM UTC
Crowbar said:

Who said that the speed is not relevant. It is very much; I just forgot about that aspect in my answers.

Not all Brethren units are faster than their regular counterparts, though, as can be seen from my screenshots above. Cuirassiers and Guns, like Jugs, are not. Subs and Frigs are. Did I miss any?
Sorry, misread your reply.
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Icy
Moderator
21 February, 2017, 10:12 AM UTC

Just as a note on strength and rum values, to summarize.

regular and vets - same power and rum consumption

Brethren - increased power and half the rum value, Also reduced lh value.

Pardond - higher increased power than a Brethren and half the rum consumption or Vets and Reg units, Also reduced lh value, just like Brethren


Brethren Units cannot be pardond. Not completed sure the same applies to gear units. 


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Azhaar Laghari
21 February, 2017, 6:26 PM UTC
Icy said:


Brethren Units cannot be pardond. Not completed sure the same applies to gear units. 


Yup, gear units can not be pardoned, or Dreads.
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Crowbar
Moderator
21 February, 2017, 9:52 PM UTC
azhaarlaghari said:

Yup, gear units can not be pardoned, or Dreads.
Zepps and Nautili can be pardoned.
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Icy
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26 February, 2017, 3:08 PM UTC

Thats right Crowbar is right, Forgot I've been pardoning my scouts(gyros)

Its the first 4 tho that can't be pardond. The two pirate and mercs
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