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Oct 31, 2016, 19:4910/31/16
Oct 31, 2016, 19:51(edited)
05/06/16
99

Hehe, yeah right, Nightwolf. Well biggest mistake ever for a company in this business is to remain silent if problems as big as this one occur. Or just to send some CM and Mods to the front and tell them to say... nothing.


Judging from the activity on the bord and ingame it is quite safe to testify: The game is dead and will beomce even more dead. I would expect to have this spread over to all the other Plarium controlled games, especially if they are using the same engine andthe same "security" script and "security" team.


I have seen similiar cheating going on in other games: Immidiatly the Dev staff showed up on the bords and they promised to work on this and in most cases, they have been able to wipe out those cheaters. There is a lot a company could do while they are working on it, to keep the playerbase confident and loyal: Hand out some goodies, talk to them, be honest to them. Not so much here... Too bad it was a nice game while it lasted.


Edit: Oh yes, i got some nice, unasked, standard response from the support, asking me to take screenshots (how many more, i send a dozen....) and to tell them names and coords of the violators. I mean it is anyway all in the screenshot and i am tired of some standard, machine generated answers. I doubt, that there is anyone left to work on this problem.
Oct 31, 2016, 20:1410/31/16
12/13/15
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But hey maybe we can all join RuAL and Destroyer 
Oct 31, 2016, 20:2210/31/16
11

can i join with you nightwolf?

we can call it  The Acadamy of Rual, the training leagues of noobs to teach us how to do prizes the new way

RuAL the Russian way I like the idea 

RuAL teaching the next generation how to be pirates pirating the map in full speed 

Oct 31, 2016, 20:5510/31/16
12/13/15
203

Rellik said:


can i join with you nightwolf?

we can call it  The Acadamy of Rual, the training leagues of noobs to teach us how to do prizes the new way

RuAL the Russian way I like the idea 

RuAL teaching the next generation how to be pirates pirating the map in full speed 

sounds good to me 

if you can't beat them -join them 


AdamKrab can we join you? 



Nov 1, 2016, 05:2111/01/16
10/20/13
170

NightWolf said:


Rellik said:


can i join with you nightwolf?

we can call it  The Acadamy of Rual, the training leagues of noobs to teach us how to do prizes the new way

RuAL the Russian way I like the idea 

RuAL teaching the next generation how to be pirates pirating the map in full speed 

sounds good to me 

if you can't beat them -join them 


AdamKrab can we join you? 



to learn to speak Russian
на русском научитесь разговаривать 

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Nov 1, 2016, 08:5811/01/16
09/17/15
8278
Dalira said:

Well, another one.... 1000 mardauders attack. Of course comming from an empty haven, but level 31. You can go, check the coordinates for yourself. It is all displayed in the screenshot.


http://prntscr.com/d1cn5n

Dalira, could you please collect all coordinates of players that attacked you and post them here or pass to any Moderator in PM?
Nov 1, 2016, 10:0811/01/16
05/06/16
99
Well i did that already, here are all the coords.



Dalira said:




Coords:


-1115; 816

1120; 736

-1114; 616

-1114; -859

-804; 1121

-1115; -310

-1104; 1070


Nov 1, 2016, 10:5611/01/16
03/27/14
1660

Dalira she is asking all new info you have her attention :) 


Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Nov 1, 2016, 13:0111/01/16
09/17/15
8278
Dalira said:

Well i did that already, here are all the coords.



Thank you. Noted that. If you have any new info or coords, please send to Anne Bonnie (and let her know it's for me) or to any Moderator.
Nov 1, 2016, 14:2511/01/16
Nov 1, 2016, 14:26(edited)
75

Ok so then tell us please how this troops can be obtained in a fair way, now that you see that proof .... ?????


You keep saying here all the troops are obtained in a fair way ...



 The havens dont raid, they are not human Players and they have no buildings to produce troops, how can that be considered "fair" ????

Nov 1, 2016, 15:0711/01/16
75

311; 211


i block that haven, but it  shows activity (last log in yesterday), so probably this haven wasnt banned correctly. it has been probably used up against PS looking at the diary and afterwards being transfered to destroyer.

Nov 1, 2016, 15:1011/01/16
04/09/14
2
bernd said:

Ok so then tell us please how this troops can be obtained in a fair way, now that you see that proof .... ?????


You keep saying here all the troops are obtained in a fair way ...



 The havens dont raid, they are not human Players and they have no buildings to produce troops, how can that be considered "fair" ????

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Nov 1, 2016, 15:1411/01/16
05/06/16
99

bernd said:


Ok so then tell us please how this troops can be obtained in a fair way, now that you see that proof .... ?????


You keep saying here all the troops are obtained in a fair way ...



 The havens dont raid, they are not human Players and they have no buildings to produce troops, how can that be considered "fair" ????

Yes, Plarium said, everything would be fair, no cheating, scripting or hacking is possible with their game engine.


Ok, i ask myself now: 


- how in hell can those empty (!) havens reach level 31? How on earth in a legit way? They have no (legal) way to earn that much experience to level to 31.

- how can those havens produce mass troops? There are no ressource building nor troop structures. Remember, those havens are basically empty.

- how can 14 of those bot havens plan an orchestrated attack against me (or other targets) all hitting within a 2 minute time frame?

Nov 1, 2016, 15:2611/01/16
Nov 1, 2016, 15:32(edited)
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http://skhohlov.blogspot.de/2013/07/few-notes-about-google-games.html


so no hacking possible? i'm no IT guy but what is described here remembers me of bot havens being runned by automation... a russian guy (...) describing how to write a script for automatic troops production / raiding ... could be probably also done for the LH.

Nov 1, 2016, 15:4711/01/16
03/27/14
1660

Plarium says they are doing everything they can, they have looked into these guys

If anything they find is against the TOS then plarium will take care of it 

till then we wait it out 



Nov 1, 2016, 15:5711/01/16
Nov 1, 2016, 16:00(edited)
15

The real problem are not ,,the guys". The real question here is how hard it can be for a game security specialists team to stop a specific software access the game database?



Nov 1, 2016, 16:0011/01/16
11/06/14
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Not sure if it provides any solace to you guys but if you've noticed raiding lately, bots are providing less resources. Even sending galleons raids are anywhere between 10k to a max of 50k. And bots are being seen going inactive. From what I understand this is plariums doing. It may not be at the speed everyone wants but it is a step in the right direction.
Nov 1, 2016, 16:0311/01/16
Nov 1, 2016, 16:06(edited)
29

piratei said:


The real problem are not ,,the guys". The real question here is how hard it can be for a game security specialists team to stop a specific software access the game database?




According to the link i posted no server data's are changed (thats why the "guys" and also plarium keep saying that they are not cheating) ... but combine this automation script with hundreds of alts and  also automatic Lighthouse and then you have what we have right now.

Nov 4, 2016, 08:2811/04/16
38

How long does Plarium need to take some action when a ticket is submitted? I submitted a ticket days ago about a player with suspicious stats, and now I still see that player on the Prize Ransack tournament board. 


How many tickets does it take before we see some swift action against a player?
Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Nov 4, 2016, 12:2311/04/16
09/17/15
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