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On the edge of quitting the game due to massive cheating and hacking

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Blasphemy
Moderator
26 October, 2016, 7:47 PM UTC

You guys forget that we to are players, we to have to woory about what can come to us, our troops 

the hard work we have put into our bh's as well,

We aren't plarium Cm's we are just like you, when we give advice it's not because we agree with them, it's because we have to stay neutral

but we have 3 sides we have to stay neutral with yours theirs and plariums, and many times we get hung by this...


Honestly I find what is going on in our server very suspicious because the troops on the Top 10 deadly don't add up...


But i guess ihold to much faith in plarium and hope they figure this out before it kills the game

 
I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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Capt_Jack
26 October, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

Lets not forget the precursor to these attacks:

http://prntscr.com/czc870

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BornInTheStorm
26 October, 2016, 8:22 PM UTC

exactly.

http://prntscr.com/czcgls

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Blasphemy
Moderator
26 October, 2016, 8:24 PM UTC

As you can see the Devolpers are looking into your case here

this is your proof plarium is listening, no it's time to wait and see

if anything is done, that is all we can do



I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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Palatine-Uvula
26 October, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

Now the post with the letter that said RuAL is being looked at is deleted?


Hard to take any of this seriously when we have been told there is no problem earlier in this same thread then they are investigating then that post is deleted.


Something really stinks from the top down right now.    Backpedalling and cover up??


That is just the overall perception.
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Blasphemy
Moderator
26 October, 2016, 9:05 PM UTC
Palatine-Uvula said:

Now the post with the letter that said RuAL is being looked at is deleted?


Hard to take any of this seriously when we have been told there is no problem earlier in this same thread then they are investigating then that post is deleted.


Something really stinks from the top down right now.    Backpedalling and cover up??


That is just the overall perception.
That was my mistake i Apoligize i have to get permistion first to share it, 
I am a daughter of a High King who is not moved by this world for my God is with me and goes before me, I do not fear because im his
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ArchAngel
26 October, 2016, 9:33 PM UTC

Moderators I understand your position.


Try to understand ours:  Some of us play this game since years and know it well.  We don´t need to PROVE anything, because we know exactly that cheating is the cause of what happens here.


That´s why I ask everybody just to change your island name to "No $ for cheats"  and follow the slogan Play, don´t pay.  Ask all your members to do that.


That´s all.  And then we will see in the end ...
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Frank Connett
26 October, 2016, 9:39 PM UTC
Doesn't matter to me anymore I am done. Short of Plarium re-setting the servers to Pre-Rual everybody is supposed to just suck up the loses? Takes too long and the fun is gone.
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bubbaranks
26 October, 2016, 11:33 PM UTC
when all is said and done we know this as fact:  plarium is putting the burden of proof on the players even though the players do not have access to server logs and data.  This makes plarium accountable for nothing.  Therefore you have to ask yourself if plarium is a legitimate company?  A legitimate business would not allow hackers to ruin their business model to this extreme and then ask its players for the burden of proof of cheating in its games.  Plarium is an illigitimate company running a scam against its own player base..boycott plarium is the only solution.
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OneLastTrip
26 October, 2016, 11:57 PM UTC

Crowbar said:


This just came in from Plarium:

We have checked RuAl players and can confirm that the units they use in battles were obtained in a fair way. They don't use any cheats/scripts/etc.

Russians and Ukranians still cannot agree that they do evil to innocent people even when evidence is gathered, so forgive me if I have a little bit of trouble with quick blanket denials from those parties.  


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/world/asia/malaysia-air-flight-mh17-russia-ukraine-missile.html?_r=0
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BornInTheStorm
27 October, 2016, 12:12 AM UTC

OneLastTrip said:


Crowbar said:


This just came in from Plarium:

We have checked RuAl players and can confirm that the units they use in battles were obtained in a fair way. They don't use any cheats/scripts/etc.

and then we saw a SS from a letter from plarium for a moment (before it got deleted fast) it said 

1 they are aware of third party software in the game

2 they said the guy who send the letters already got his punishment 

3 they will keep track of current RuAL members






so apparently elite players just dont need rubies

some guy like this might be able to do more for less $

http://prntscr.com/czeg1p

maybe he can hook us up with a couple hundred bots and a nice crew, you know just to dismantle a few presidios.

but only if they dont want to pay our ransom, cos then they just dont know how to play.

and dont worry about plarium, theyll even ban their accounts..



im learning

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BornInTheStorm
27 October, 2016, 12:17 AM UTC
OneLastTrip said:

Russians and Ukranians still cannot agree that they do evil to innocent people even when evidence is gathered, so forgive me if I have a little bit of trouble with quick blanket denials from those parties.  


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/world/asia/malaysia-air-flight-mh17-russia-ukraine-missile.html?_r=0
and please dont blame 190000000 people for some politicians, journalists or cheaters. these guy(s) here have probably already made a lot more victims on the Ru server.. 
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OneLastTrip
27 October, 2016, 12:27 AM UTC

BornInTheStorm said:


OneLastTrip said:


Russians and Ukranians still cannot agree that they do evil to innocent people even when evidence is gathered, so forgive me if I have a little bit of trouble with quick blanket denials from those parties.  


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/world/asia/malaysia-air-flight-mh17-russia-ukraine-missile.html?_r=0
and please dont blame 190000000 people for some politicians, journalists or cheaters. these guy(s) here have probably already made a lot more victims on the Ru server.. 
My wife is Russian and can read their forums.  You would not believe the contorted explanations both country's citizen have come up with to assuage their feelings about innocent victims.  My point is that anyone in either of those countries desperately craves money more than ethics.  It is who they are due to how they were formed by their environment.  That the game environment is now suspect sadly may well be a reflection of that upbringing.
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BornInTheStorm
27 October, 2016, 12:42 AM UTC

i dont believe what i read in newspapers or forums. and i try not to judge, especially not on someones nationality. but this dont matter and is getting off topic, the point is we are being cheated by russian brotherhoods and by a mostly ukranian company

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smilinjack
27 October, 2016, 12:44 AM UTC
well, not another scheckel from me... I've put more into this game than I intended to.
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BornInTheStorm
27 October, 2016, 12:53 AM UTC

BornInTheStorm said:


and then we saw a SS from a letter from plarium for a moment (before it got deleted fast) it said 

1 they are aware of third party software in the game

2 they said the guy who send the letters already got his punishment 

3 they will keep track of current RuAL members

this is our problem.


1 oke and what are they doing about it ?

2 i saw more than one account send blackmail letters, so who do they mean by 'the guy' and whats 'punishment' ?

3 great so they are watching RuAL, join the club, and what about the other russian brotherhoods with the same accounts and activity ?

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Graham
27 October, 2016, 8:10 AM UTC
What people need to understand is, Both ICY and BLASPHEMY are on the pay roll, you will never get a supporting answer from them. They are 100% behind Plarium and there decisions. Rual I beleive is a Plarium designed BH (there will not be a punishment), you can not say that a BH like this is legit. However they are being watched and everything is being monitored lol.
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David hamilton
27 October, 2016, 9:03 AM UTC

As i don't like what happened this couple days , i don't mind RuAl to join the party.


People forgot that Pilgrim slayer , NSF , CB, dragon fire and Storte ruled the game for so long until they became tyrant and bullied small BH like mine.

So why i should feel sorry for them , well i don't.

I don't mind the presence of 1 tyrant Bh like RuAl who will rule the 7 sea from now on and crash NSf + PS + DF + CB.


i am actually start to enjoy this.

At first my BH was blackmailed by RuAl but then i don't have anything to give , nor presdios or bastion.


PS got what it deserve and soon NSF will follow.


Plarium already said RuAl are not cheaters , but whether that's true or not , it doesn't matter , they are here to stay and kick PS + NSF + Cb out of the top ( i keep saying that because they bullied my Bh couple times ).


I wish RuAl Bh start posting there prize's wining so we can see how they get there troops.


RuAl welcome to the english server and happy hunting.

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Graham
27 October, 2016, 9:25 AM UTC

David hamilton said:


As i don't like what happened this couple days , i don't mind RuAl to join the party.


People forgot that Pilgrim slayer , NSF , CB, dragon fire and Storte ruled the game for so long until they became tyrant and bullied small BH like mine.

So why i should feel sorry for them , well i don't.

I don't mind the presence of 1 tyrant Bh like RuAl who will rule the 7 sea from now on and crash NSf + PS + DF + CB.


i am actually start to enjoy this.

At first my BH was blackmailed by RuAl but then i don't have anything to give , nor presdios or bastion.


PS got what it deserve and soon NSF will follow.


Plarium already said RuAl are not cheaters , but whether that's true or not , it doesn't matter , they are here to stay and kick PS + NSF + Cb out of the top ( i keep saying that because they bullied my Bh couple times ).


I wish RuAl Bh start posting there prize's wining so we can see how they get there troops.


RuAl welcome to the english server and happy hunting.

What BH are you anyway, any progression you guys make, be it presidio, Bastion you will become a target to the cheating BH of RuaL.

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Crowbar
Moderator
27 October, 2016, 10:50 AM UTC

About the missing report... Blasphemy published the response that she (or someone else, I'm not sure, nor does it matter here) got from the Support, because she wanted to help you all get more response from Plarium. Unfortunately, she forgot that this is against the rules, and those apply to the mods as they apply to everyone else, so we decided to remove it, until we get a permission to make an exception and publish the response. Now that we got it, here it is:


ArchAngel said:

Moderators I understand your position.
Try to understand ours: Some of us play this game since years and know it well. We don´t need to PROVE anything, because we know exactly that cheating is the cause of what happens here.

Thank you for the calm tone, I appreciate it. We do understand your position, more than you think. Mods are regular players, and most of them on your own servers, and they do get affected by the same game problems that affect you.

I'd like to explain a bit how this communication functions, as there is a lot of unfair anger towards mods and CMs.

  1. Mods are basically a link between the CMs and the other players (plus, we're in charge of keeping the forums clean(ish)). CMs cannot be expected to read absolutely everything here, which is where we come in. That's it.
    This means that when mods tell you "report it" and "send proofs", it's not our whim, but we know that it's the only way you have any chance of yielding the result you want. We write this to help you, even though we're well aware that many of you will not take it well and will be angry with us.
  2. CMs are a connection between players and Plarium. They cannot chase bugs, alts, bots,... as they don't have the tools nor the game/logs/whatever access needed for that.
    With the current problem of cheating accusations, our CMs relayed our concerns repeatedly, as per both "ordinary" players' and mods' requests, they gave us the responses that they have,... and even though we're all aware that it's not considered enough by most of you, it's the maximum that they can do for us.
  3. The rest of Plarium are various departments/people/whatnot that do the actual work you're concerned with. They do not appear here. Some of you requested that they do, and I understand you (personally, I even support you), but this is not something that neither mods nor CMs can make happen.
All that being said, reporting all the incidents, with as much proof as you can gather, is the only way - fair or not - that Plarium will accept. Being angry with us, refusing to cooperate via Support, etc. serves only the need to vent your rage, but it will yield you no results.

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